My take on the Froch-Groves stoppage.

I think it's a tad too early; a premature stoppage.

No **** I'm biased, thanks for solving that for everyone; I don't know what we would have done without you. You're welcome.

Let's ignore Froch's reputation of starting slow and coming on strong. Groves was robbed of getting KO'd dead centre in the ring, not winning the fight; almost all the boxing critics saw that he probably wouldn't make it out of the round, or get stopped in the other championship rounds, but since the ref stopped it early, let's over hype him beyond belief, there's 12 rounds .. if you can't manage to remain strong in the later half then you have obvious flaws and Froch exposed that, but let's hate on him for pretty much getting the TKO which should have been a KO because the kids got 'heart'. u dont sound very sure of all this yourself!! he wasnt rolling around out there looking for a soft landing like dirrell does. seems grovsie has gotten into the mind of frochs fans who wish they had speed like him, and dirrel fans who wish he had heart like him!!! LONG LIVE GROVES!!!!!!

Its mainly casual boxing fans on facebook and people that put money on Groves that are upset about the stoppage because they want to see blood and guts and the fight was soo good they never wanted it to end.. People are writing stuff like "Froch was hurt way worse than Groves and the ref never stopped it" Everytime Froch was hurt he was staring right at Groves and punched back in similar fashion to Mickey Ward in the Gatti fights (clumsy but it shows the ref he has more to give) Groves on the other hand was hit with huge punches thats stiffened his legs two seperate times in the matter of 5 seconds and then Groves did a Khan gallop and was looking at the floor unable to defend and was not in any position to punch back Good stoppage in my eyes but I can see why people are mad as it was a title fight but I even explained the "you have to be punching back or defending yourself" to my girlfriend and she understands now its about a split second decision the ref has to make and the fighters health is more important than any belt or legacy in boxing

Let's ignore Froch's reputation of starting slow and coming on strong. Groves was robbed of getting KO'd dead centre in the ring, not winning the fight; almost all the boxing critics saw that he probably wouldn't make it out of the round, or get stopped in the other championship rounds, but since the ref stopped it early, let's over hype him beyond belief, there's 12 rounds .. if you can't manage to remain strong in the later half then you have obvious flaws and Froch exposed that, but let's hate on him for pretty much getting the TKO which should have been a KO because the kids got 'heart'. You should change your location from Nottingham before talking such bullshit. If the ref had stepped in in the first when froch was down and hurt you would be coming on here saying the ref stopped him too soon. but because it worked in favor of your fighter you come out with this BS. I was neutral going into this one and as a neutral it is clear to see what happened. You are biased and hence you come out with this nonsense. I'm not saying froch wouldn't have come on strong and have won I'm simply saying groves should have been given the same chance when he was hurt that froch was ... but he wasn't. Anyway your location ... froch's backyard ... your opinion ... biased ... your post ... invalid

Groves in my opinion was eventually gonna get stopped but regardless, that has no weight, anything is possible, Groves could have very well recovered and continued displaying his superiority that night or Froch could have had a legitimate stoppage we will never know. Boxing fans are still the shittiest sport fans, I don't understand why people were booing Froch, fuckin' ridiculous. I like Froch in a rematch, just wanted to add that.

absolutely disgraceful stoppage. Anybody who thinks otherwise needs to stop watching boxing. Froch was coming on strong and sure, groves was hurt but fuksake that was a disgrace. groves completely outboxed him all night got in trouble once and the ref stepped in and stopped it. I know they are both from the UK but I've been critical of Ward not wanting to go to the UK to fight froch but after seeing that I can understand why he wouldn't

I watched it 2 or 3 times and I think the stoppage was a joke, a complete and utter disgrace. And this is coming from a guy who has no problems with fights being stopped early because I do not want to see anybody get hurt in there. But in this case I have to speak out. Was Groves hurt? Absolutely. But it was the first time in the whole fight that he was hurt and he won almost every round and almost knocked Froch out in the 1st round. Furthermore there is a difference between being defenseless and still defending yourself. Groves was taking a few flush shots but he was still moving, fighting back and even having his hands up at times to block shots. The bottom line is Groves was NOT about to get knocked OUT, he was about to get knocked DOWN. And there is a big difference since he probably would have recovered had he taken a knee or gotten knocked down cause those 10 seconds can clear his head. And Groves did not turn his back to Froch, he was just standing sideways for a second and the ref took him in a headlock and kinda turned him away from the fight. And again: I am the first guy who screams at the TV "Ref, stop the fight, he is done!" when a fighter is about to get hurt. I never want to see somebody get knocked unconscious cause that does nothing for me and for the fighter neither. But that was probably the biggest "BS" stoppage I have seen in years. i agree to an extent and i think the correct thing to do would have been to give Groves a standing 8 count but i disagree that he was not about to be Knocked out and Froch was freely teeing off of Groves head for 5 or 6 shots, and Groves was not realy blocking or hiting back he was flailing all over, but he may well have gained composure with a standing 8 as opposed to simply ending the fight, all this said the ref is only human and i dont think this was a fix just a bad gut reaction by the ref, all this said this was by no means the worst stoppage i have seen and there its not like both men didnt go at it like it meant life or death, we could argue that Froch could have been stopped when he was on shaky legs but again the ref is human and Froch is known for been something of a Rocky type getting hit not a great boxer but a tough warrior where Groves is agreat boxer but he has never once been on the trenches and thats where Froch took him and once Groves game plan began to unravel as it did there was only one outcome i think, a rematch is a must though as Froch cant be happy with his performance and clearly underestimated Groves. If Groves was to stick to boxing and not get in a war he wins with ease but Froch wont be so ****y next time and there is no doubt no matter who Groves fights in the future ill be watching as he has proved win or lose he is the future and a very talented fighter.

Did the ref have this mindset after the knockdown when Froch was supposedly 'unconscious' or the other multiple times Froch was hurt? Come off it bat. Groves absolutely ****ing banjo'd Froch in round 6 - with about 4 absolutely clean power shots. He could have jumped in then and it would have been more legitimate. Froch was completely gone in the 1st round. Groves was definitely jobbed last night. I'm massively bitter. God knows how George feels.

On topic though. I felt it was a bad and early stoppage. But it might prove to be a blessing in disguise for Groves. He didn't take unneccesary punishment, he didn't quit, he exceeded expectations and earned the right to another huge payday. Had it gone on, I'm quite sure that he would have been flattened. In defense of the referee, then maybe he was thinking about the recent deaths and braininjuries in our sport and this had been a demanding fight. The stoppage was still wrong though. I agree, and I don't really understand the view of those who believe otherwise. I guess they had to see it happen to believe it. I think you're right, it is a blessing in disguise for Groves, the ref saved his health, he gets a big money rematch and the public are behind him. Froch on the other hand didn't get to KO Groves despite being on top in the ring at that point and he's getting the public backlash despite not doing anything wrong. He actually showed typical heart to come back. In spite of all that, I back the ref's call. He's actually in there, as fans we aren't. The Magomed and McKinnon brain bleeding situations are testament to what can happen so I won't be criticising a ref's stoppage.

"Anybody who seriously thinks he wasn't going to get knocked out...I find it strange" - Robert McCracken I agree with him. Froch was in the same stalking mode he was in v Jermain Taylor in the 12th, and Lucian Bute in the 5th, he had him and he was going to take him out, probably brutally. Groves gave a great account of himself, but let's be realistic. yep, proper Froch ball hanger.Biased opinion if there was ever one. The fight should have been stopped when froch was doing the stiff leg dance.

I feel horrible for Groves. That was his championship moment ffs- he has faded and strayed from his gameplans before, so it really wasnt even out of character. A moment like that, in this fight, shouldn't have taken the ref aback and caused him to panic. Give him the chance to rectify his doubters that on the big stage! Froch has had to do this many times himself. It's the reason why we know his name! Groves was hurt and fading, but still position to pull it out. He had the stylistic and strategic advantage for most of the fight, and that made the final rounds up in the air to me, even though it was turning into a Froch script...and I'm one of the a$$holes with a 76-75 Groves card. I really hope groves can bounce back because he is a real talent.

I agree, bad stoppage. In these cases you have to just say "He'll live to fight another day", which is exactly what Groves should do and he should do it rather sooner than later. I hope that he gets Froch in the ring again, in say 4 months. That would give both some time to chill and recover and plenty of time to resharpen those skills. I like Froch, always in good fights. But man I couldn't help but stare at Frochs head as it remained at 12 o'clock with his chin held up at high noon while winging his wide shots in combination while attacking. Groves was taking full advantage of the flaw landing way too many right hands against Frochs face while he rushed in. Groves boxed an excellent fight, rolling to his right quite often negating Frochs right hand. He also picked off the pumpkin sitting up high on the fence pole that Froch just leaves sitting right there, many times leaving Froch heavily jarred and uncertain as Groves pelted his face. The stoppage was simply horrible. I'm sure that Froch will never match Groves in 'boxing' ability and would not find it hard to believe that Froch could be a little leery of a rematch. But just the same, Froch seems to be a stand up guy and may want to erase what could only be viewed as a gift given well before Christmas.............. Rockin':boxing: Froch has always been Wilde open when he attacks. What I noted also, was that Froch was even slower than usual and that he couldn't get his jab working despite a footlong reachadvantage. Froch looked very much his age, and maybe all those grueling fights have finally caught up to him. In a return, Groves will have improved after this learning experience. Will Froch improve? I doubt that.

In defense of the referee, then maybe he was thinking about the recent deaths and braininjuries in our sport and this had been a demanding fight. The stoppage was still wrong though. Did the ref have this mindset after the knockdown when Froch was supposedly 'unconscious' or the other multiple times Froch was hurt? Come off it bat.

Actually I just looked it up myself and in the last 24 days I only posted 2 threads. I am sure there are a few people here who post 3 threads per day. So with 2 threads in almost a month I am not a spammer really. It was not personal. Maybe my rant hit the wrong mark regarding you generally. Its just that NSB was so pathetic in the hours after the fight with multiple threads with variations on the exact same and posters feeling that their opinion was so terrific that it deserved a thread of its own. On topic though. I felt it was a bad and early stoppage. But it might prove to be a blessing in disguise for Groves. He didn't take unneccesary punishment, he didn't quit, he exceeded expectations and earned the right to another huge payday. Had it gone on, I'm quite sure that he would have been flattened. In defense of the referee, then maybe he was thinking about the recent deaths and braininjuries in our sport and this had been a demanding fight. The stoppage was still wrong though.

Dont take it personal. It wasn't a dig at you only. Its just that repetitive threads like this is what ruins NSB. Actually I just looked it up myself and in the last 24 days I only posted 2 threads. I am sure there are a few people here who post 3 threads per day. So with 2 threads in almost a month I am not a spammer really.

Dont take it personal. It wasn't a dig at you only. Its just that repetitive threads like this is what ruins NSB. What I did though is look at the first page of the NSB section and there was basically nothing about this stoppage, so I felt I was not overflooding the section if I post this thread. If also do not like it when people make a thread about everything, but if you look at my statistics you can see I do not post that many threads.

See, you posted stuff like that in the past. Now that you are a mod in the history section, you gotta show a little more respect to the posters here. Because bottom line is I am not gonna personally ask you in a PM if I am allowed to post a thread on this forum. Dont take it personal. It wasn't a dig at you only. Its just that repetitive threads like this is what ruins NSB.

I'm so happy that the TS made his own personal thread on this issue. We have waited for his opinion. I'm glad his opinion now doesn't get buried in the 100 other threads about the exact same thing. See, you posted stuff like that in the past.... Bottom line is I am not gonna personally ask you in a PM if I am allowed to post a thread on this forum.

Groves had Froch's number. Problem was Eddie Hearn had the refs and judges bank account numbers. If the ref wasn't gonna bail Froch out, the judges almost certainty would have. Groves was gonna get stitched up either way.