Groves was Terrific, No. 3 at SMW?

I knew Groves would look great for 6 rounds. I even said that I thought he might drop Froch - I didn't think he'd hurt him that bad though. He got very ragged though towards the end and started trying to brawl with Froch. It was always going to be his downfall.

I honestly can't see anyone beating him at smw bar Ward,who does. He dominated Froch the #2. Kessler is past it sadly.

He is more skilled than Froch, better boxer. Froch is officially still no.2, because he go the win, but Groves is the better fighter. DeGale may get there as well. DeGale v Froch? If Froch and Hearn are to shook for the rematch?

He is more skilled than Froch, better boxer. Froch is officially still no.2, because he go the win, but Groves is the better fighter. DeGale may get there as well.

This fight played out exactly how everyone predicted. It was the same fight as every time froch fights a more skilled opponent. His toughness came through in the second half like we all said it would. The only one robbed of a victory here was froch and a rematch will end the same way. No one predicted it like this lol It's true to say that Froch probably struggles against some "slicker" fighters but he has beaten them all except Ward and none of them, not even Ward, hurt, out muscled, out worked and out fought Froch the way Groves did. I personally think we saw Froch get old over night...take nothing away from Groves, he's the one that made it happen. Mark my words, just like Pacquiao, Froch is a disaster waiting to happen.

OK, this is just silly ^. I expect you think Froch will 'duck' a rematch. :rofl: How is that silly?? Did you see Froch badly hurt is it out of the question that Groves could stop him in a rematch? Nope but i think Hearn will.

froch was jabbing all night. the problem was that he was throwing arm punches until around round 7, when his legs finally recovered from the hard knock-down in round 1. i think froch would probably win the rematch, but it's by no means a foregone conclusion and groves deserves a second chance. Totally. Even if Froch had stopped Groves without the intervention in round 9, a rematch would be logical. What I meant about Froch's jab is that it had no pop; it was thrown sluggishly all night. Groves couldn't miss with the right hand.

This fight played out exactly how everyone predicted. It was the same fight as every time froch fights a more skilled opponent. His toughness came through in the second half like we all said it would. The only one robbed of a victory here was froch and a rematch will end the same way.

However, Froch was so cumbersome and lazy. His jab was non-existent. froch was jabbing all night. the problem was that he was throwing arm punches until around round 7, when his legs finally recovered from the hard knock-down in round 1. i think froch would probably win the rematch, but it's by no means a foregone conclusion and groves deserves a second chance.

Nope Froch wanted to kill Groves he did not take him lightly at all. Groves beats Froch in a rematch maybe even by stoppage. OK, this is just silly ^. I expect you think Froch will 'duck' a rematch. :rofl:

Froch underestimated Groves. Its as simple as that. Take nothing away from Groves, though. He proved he's 'world class'. However, Froch was so cumbersome and lazy. His jab was non-existent. Expect a brutal Froch stoppage in the rematch. Nope Froch wanted to kill Groves he did not take him lightly at all. Groves beats Froch in a rematch maybe even by stoppage.

Froch underestimated Groves. Its as simple as that. Take nothing away from Groves, though. He proved he's 'world class'. However, Froch was so cumbersome and lazy. His jab was non-existent. Expect a brutal Froch stoppage in the rematch.

You could make a strong argument for number 3 ... top 5 without a shadow of doubt.

Stamina will cost him, I believe. The fact it was Froch's chin of steel may be the reason why, but his punches stopped having an effect on him after 5. He was landing big, but having no effect and then he started getting caught and was in real trouble. Style wise, I think he'd give Ward problems. He's a really good boxer and he is very strong to wrestle with Ward. Stamina would be the problem.

If he improves his stamina he can go far, almost every rd after the 1st he seemed to be breathing heavy half way through. I'd prefer him not to rematch froch, as if he gets legitimately stopped late on it will hurt his future prospects

A rematch with DeGale would be terrific. DeGale really needs to get his finger out though as he has fallen miles behind. Yep. DeGale looked promising at one time but since the Groves lost has been on and off. I just think groves is too good for him now, the first fight was VERY close but now it would be a walk in the park for Groves, mark my words.

He's a 6 rounder fighter. Degale caught up to him towards the end too and that was a true 50/50 fight at the end of the 12th. A rematch with DeGale would be terrific. DeGale really needs to get his finger out though as he has fallen miles behind.

If he improves his stamina yes.

Not just yet, but he did fantastic against his first world-level opponent and showed grit. He needs to get a victory over a top guy first, preferably Stieglitz or Bika.

Robert Stieglitz, If no rematch Stieglitz is small time, that guy is barely b level. I reckon he should fight the other Dirrel brother or winner of Bika/Junior. Btw, what I saw tonight, DeGale needs to stay away from a Groves rematch lol