Lets get your opinions ... I think hatton would have knocked him out he was hurting him with hooks take away the extra pounds his chin might have crumbled
can potshotting get any faster? if that fight went down at 140 on the same date mayweather would have been eating the canvas he was running for his life while hatton was pursuing and attacking
Floyd was moving and hitting Hatton with power shots,and staying in the pocket at times and hitting Hatton with power shots which eventually made Hatton taste the mat and get ko`d.Floyd had more power and speed at 140 so he would have ko`ed Hatton faster at 140.Its funny because Floyd called Hatton out even before he went to 140 and while he was at 140,but Hatton turned it down.So they both wound up fighting each other at their unnatural weight because of Hatton ducking Floyd twice.
Floyd vs Hatton at 140 would have been worse for Hatton because Floyd was even faster at 140 then at 147, and he hit harder at 140 then at 147.Hatton fought a past his prime Mayweather,A prime Floyd at welterweight would have ko`ed Hatton even faster then the version that Hatton fought.
can potshotting get any faster? if that fight went down at 140 on the same date mayweather would have been eating the canvas he was running for his life while hatton was pursuing and attacking
Any fight between these two depends on whether the referee lets Hatton work.
There was one round, I think it was Round 5 where Cortez stayed out of it. Most of the round was spent with Floyd on the ropes. I expect the whole fight to have looked like that with another ref.
No,what you really mean is any fight between these two depends on whether the referee lets Hatton cheat.Holding and hitting-which is Hatton`s main bread and butter tactic-is illegal in boxing.Sure in the UK,the bias UK ref lets Hatton get away with anything he wants including pulling out a firearm,but in the U.S the ref actually enforces the boxing rules for a Hatton fight,because they don`t kiss Hatton`s "bum" like they do in the UK.Also,when the Ref let both of them fight on the inside,Floyd was still getting the better of Hatton most of the time anyway.So get over the fact that Floyd basically ended Hatton`s career(the version of Hatton that Pacquiao fought was already ruined by Floyd thus the 2 round destruction by Pacquiao,when has Pacquiao ever ko`ed a top fighter in 2 rounds?Thank You).
I could see why you hate Floyd,you still hav`nt got over the fact that Floyd destroyed your hero Ricky"the hype job" Hatton :lol1:.
At no point in ricky hattons life or professional career, whether the fight was in his house, whether his dad was the ref, could he beat floyd mayweather. why can't people just accept this.
The lord blessed ricky with the ability to slug and consume large amounts of guiness. He could surely out eat or out drink floyd.
When it comes to boxing he is inferior to floyd in every way.
Damn B give dude some credit. Fight was quite competitive up until the 8th or 9th
Lets get your opinions ... I think hatton would have knocked him out he was hurting him with hooks take away the extra pounds his chin might have crumbled
Floyd vs Hatton at 140 would have been worse for Hatton because Floyd was even faster at 140 then at 147, and he hit harder at 140 then at 147.Hatton fought a past his prime Mayweather,A prime Floyd at welterweight would have ko`ed Hatton even faster then the version that Hatton fought.
At no point in ricky hattons life or professional career, whether the fight was in his house, whether his dad was the ref, could he beat floyd mayweather. why can't people just accept this.
The lord blessed ricky with the ability to slug and consume large amounts of guiness. He could surely out eat or out drink floyd.
When it comes to boxing he is inferior to floyd in every way.
Floyd always has the it wouldn't of mattered anyway mystique surrounding him in all of his fights.
Example: "Floyd is so talented that he didn't need Cortez to help him win vs Hatton" While i agree, I think the fight would've been a much more harder match, had it of been someone like Bayless in the ring. It would've probably went the full 12 or ended at 12.
A case could be made I guess. Hatton was fighting floyd as good as anybody when floyd was potshotting, but between the refs premature breaks, and floyd's elbow, floyd was able to create the distance he needed to land combinations. Thats a fight that Hatton couldn't handle. After Hatton got the point taken for hitting behind the head, Hatton lost control and it was all downhill from there. Too big of a fight to let that happen biased ref or not.
Hatton vs May @ 140? Depends on where the fight is being held and who the ref is imo...
Unfortunately for Hatton, who was definitely much better at 140, Mayweather was also better at 140 imo.
The fight may have lasted longer, maybe even the distance, but Mayweather is too fast (hand, foot, thinking), too accurate, too smart to be beaten by Hatton.
People confuse "throwing punches" with "landing punches" when it comes to this fight.
And I'd love to see all these left hooks Hatton was "hurting" him with.
the ref definately played a big part in the fight. i dont think it matters too much between 140 or 147 but for hatton to stand a fair chance he has to be allowed to fight his fight. its not like he throws his opponents around (klitchko) or uses his forearm alot (mayweather) he just likes to get close and stay close, similar to a mexican pressure fighter like rios. i think he had a decent chance 50/50 of beating mayweather with a fair ref. everyone knows you cant out box him so one way of beating flloyd is relentless agression and workrate which hatton had. i think with a fair ref that allowed hatton to keep close if would have been a closer fight and if it happened ten times 5/10 hatton wins, 5/10 mayweather wins.
I didn't say it was the sole factor, just the key factor imo. I'm well aware an opinion isn't fact, that's why were having this discussion. We should probably leave it there though, we don't agree.
lol you're a fan, you argue his injuries are legit and that he'd beat Wladimir Klitschko. You're also a Mayweather fan which we both already know from previous discussions.
If Mayweather and Haye's shenanigans are your cup of tea that's fine, but don't pretend you're objective when you're biased as a corrupt ref! :)
No I clearly made a post where I question his latest injury, I have my suspicions, which will only reveal itself on a later date
Do I think he can beat Wlad? yes if he came with a different game plan and pressed the fight and also No if he doesn't press the fight and take risks. HW's can change the fight with one punch.
Hatton could never beat Floyd that's just fact, his style is all wrong and he cant adjust because of the way he fights. Does that make Hatton a bad fighter? NO, just is a testament to how good Floyd is, who in the past I have doubted over and over again only to be proven wrong. Its a biter pill to swallow, one day you will accept it like I finally did.
I only give a few fighters a chance at causing Floyd problems and even they don't really stand a chance at winning.
Your opinion doesn't make it a fact. You're hanging onto it like it was the sole factor in the course of the fight. Hatton still had time to throw punches, try something different and avoid getting beaten up but wouldn't or couldn't do it. Make it about the referee if it helps you accept the result but those without bias can see it for what it is. The better man winning and probably winning it at 140lbs. When Hatton was constantly holding (Urango) or splitting eyes (Smith), where was your corruption crusade?
It was about levels and Mayweather was always a level above Hatton.
I didn't say it was the sole factor, just the key factor imo. I'm well aware an opinion isn't fact, that's why were having this discussion. We should probably leave it there though, we don't agree.
I enjoy watching Haye fight but you wouldn't see him arguing he can beat a prime Lennox Lewis
lol you're a fan, you argue his injuries are legit and that he'd beat Wladimir Klitschko. You're also a Mayweather fan which we both already know from previous discussions.
If Mayweather and Haye's shenanigans are your cup of tea that's fine, but don't pretend you're objective when you're biased as a corrupt ref! :)
Your opinion doesn't make it a fact. You're hanging onto it like it was the sole factor in the course of the fight. Hatton still had time to throw punches, try something different and avoid getting beaten up but wouldn't or couldn't do it. Make it about the referee if it helps you accept the result but those without bias can see it for what it is. The better man winning and probably winning it at 140lbs. When Hatton was constantly holding (Urango) or splitting eyes (Smith), where was your corruption crusade?
It was about levels and Mayweather was always a level above Hatton.
Weebler you live in a delusional world mate, I know ur a Hatton stan though, I was rooting for Hatton to beat Floyd and I thought he had a shot but after that fight I realized Floyd was too damn good.
I call it as it I see it. You're a Haye fan and defend all his fakery. Enough said.
Weebler you live in a delusional world mate, I know ur a Hatton stan though, I was rooting for Hatton to beat Floyd and I thought he had a shot but after that fight I realized Floyd was too damn good.
Well your theories don't bother me because I've been watching boxing since Hagler/Minter mate Mayweather is far from "all I've got" but judging by your whining I could level that at you and Hatton. I've enjoyed watching many fighters and respect Hatton's toughness but never thought he'd beat Mayweather and was so sure of a KO I put money on it (got the round right tok which won me a tidy sum). Hatton's only chance was to make it a messy brawl which many refs in the states don't tend to allow. The whole "bumping heads before throwing a punch" is very British and to be honest I don't like watching it. Hatton needed a jab but with short arms and elbow problems he once alluded to, he didn't have a sufficient one to give him a chance to get close with out grappling ot eating shots on the way in. THIS is one of the reasons he wasn't good enough. Cortez or no Cortez. I also remember that his team were looking at different fights, not talking about locations. They said they weren't ready.
It's not theories, it's an opinion. I've watched a lot of boxing too, and I know what transpired that night because I've seen it many times since. Hatton and his trainer know what went down too. Ask their opinion on the refereeing and whether they got a fair crack at it.
US refs don't allow certain styles when it's a foreign fighter, but when it's a US fighter it's all good. This happens elsewhere too, it's not a US issue, it's boxing problem, it's corrupt and latter day Cortez is a prime example of it.
Taking a shot on the way in wasn't a problem for Hatton because when he gets in, he stays in. The problem was Cortez repeatedly breaking them up so he was constantly taking shots on the way in. Cortez stays out, then it's not an issue but he couldn't stay out because he was protecting the house fighter.
On the last point, Hatton was moving to fight in the US with the eventual goal of fighting Mayweather. Why? because Floyd wasn't coming to the UK under any circumstances, they wanted that fight over here but Floyd didn't and neither did Arum.
Hatton one of my fav boxers, but he'd never beat Floyd
The skill difference was evident, Hattons style is something Floyd loves more than anything
He used Hattons strengths against him, i.e his inside fighting
Hatton recently gave a good break down of what makes Floyd so difficult to hit, he said he is fast and gets off punches even when he's on the ropes and you think you have him cornered