Are too many fighters trying to emulate Floyds shoulder roll?

Broner is now training at the Mayweather gym so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some of you guys are spot on! Yes many guys try to use the philly shell but they don't understand why it works for Floyd. Some guys don't even roll the punches they just use the stance without understanding why it works so well. Floyd rolls the punches, he bobs and weaves, he counters well, and he uses foot movement to make his style as effective as it is. Broner does it ok but he doesn't over his feet or his head well enough and sooner or later it's going to catch up with him.

I think Broner does it well (against inferior opposition) . But i think he's the reason why so many people have been using it recently because he's still being defensively responsible while still throwing, It's "working" for him but others haven't been too successful .

Broner is pretty at it but he uses Toney style of it more than Floyd. Like anything you need to start young with it and not pick it up after 20 plus fights like Berto. Karl Dargan uses it as close as Floyd does which is why he's usually a sparring partner for whoever fights Floyd.

Its proven so why not try. Im sure theres some young fighters trying to perfect it. And im talking 7-10 years olds young

The trick is after you roll a few, you move out of the way... I know Floyd and Toney got away with just standing there, but that was against bottom tier guys If they're facing someone good, you never see them just stand there and roll... A roll one, or 2, then punch and move... If they can't punch, the move Nobody understands it, but it really is the best defensive style to learn... Its 90% reflex, and it isn't hard to teach/learn

Too many guys do it without understanding the whole concept behind it. Broner does it decent but there are holes in it because he hasn't really put in the work to make it tight. That is the whole problem with guys using it actually it requires a ton of work and most guys just pick it up because they see it working so well without realizing Floyd has spent a lifetime mastering it. A lot of it is understanding what the other guy is going to do and being a step ahead, if you just use the same variation of a trick over and over someone is going to figure it out.

Broner does it well enough that he should continue to do so, don't understand why you mentioned him, I've seen Broner counter off the shoulder roll plenty of times.

They are also emmulating his 60% arm punches and his low punch output. in other words they are turning boxing into a fuking fencing match!!!

Broner's actually isnt that bad. Just because you arent as good at it as Floyd, doesnt mean its bad. Alot of guys its bad but Broner's is pretty solid. I'm sorry but I don't see it. Broner just gets punched in the shoulder; Floyd Senior said as soon as he's in with a live opponent; the shoulder roll is out of the window. The article is on boxingscene somewhere.

Broner is pretty good at it,so why did you mention him?

Mike Alvarado...terrible

Broner's actually isnt that bad. Just because you arent as good at it as Floyd, doesnt mean its bad. Alot of guys its bad but Broner's is pretty solid.

Berto mastered it and made his own... the Berto roll

I seen Rodriguez do it and he was actually blocking a number of Ward's shots, the problem is they don't punch afterwards. Floyd is successful because he counters from it, these other guys just hold and stand still until they get hit. Floyd moves his arms subtly, shifts his upper body and moves his legs...it's not just the stance that makes him successful. I feel like Broner has a static shoulder roll; he doesn't ROLL punches like Floyd. Berto is the same way; there's just holes in his defense. It's not tight like Floyd's and that will lead Broner to his first loss.

I seen Rodriguez do it and he was actually blocking a number of Ward's shots, the problem is they don't punch afterwards. Floyd is successful because he counters from it, these other guys just hold and stand still until they get hit. Floyd moves his arms subtly, shifts his upper body and moves his legs...it's not just the stance that makes him successful.