Since it is more than likely he will move up there at some point in his career, this is more of a projection. How would Gennady Golovkin do if he were to move up to the super middleweight division and fought guys more his size? Gennady looked very big compared to Curtis Stevens in his last bout.
I think Stevens is a just a small MW. Someone on NSB posted in the AMs he even fought at heavy before and he used to fight at LHW in the beginning of his career in the pros. He's actually in shape at MW.
Doesn't make him a good boxer, but he just has that frame. I think GGG would do fine at SMW. He's 5'10" with a 70" inch, so if his skill really is ATG potential then he should show it later in his career if he does move up.
Stevens fought at HW? At 5'6?? Crazy, and maybe, but like someone else in this thread mentioned, many 168 lbers are 175ers who moved down in weight. So GGG would be undersized any way you put it. But he does have the boxing skill to do well IMO. I think he'd do well, just the top guys would give him some hard mathchups
I think Stevens is a just a small MW. Someone on NSB posted in the AMs he even fought at heavy before and he used to fight at LHW in the beginning of his career in the pros. He's actually in shape at MW.
Doesn't make him a good boxer, but he just has that frame. I think GGG would do fine at SMW. He's 5'10" with a 70" inch, so if his skill really is ATG potential then he should show it later in his career if he does move up.
Don't know how the hell he fought that high with his height... he's pretty stocky though.
Evidently he can still get in great shape because he didn't see his abs until he moved down to MW
I think Stevens is a just a small MW. Someone on NSB posted in the AMs he even fought at heavy before and he used to fight at LHW in the beginning of his career in the pros. He's actually in shape at MW.
Doesn't make him a good boxer, but he just has that frame. I think GGG would do fine at SMW. He's 5'10" with a 70" inch, so if his skill really is ATG potential then he should show it later in his career if he does move up.
GGG is probably undersized at 168 lbs. Guys like Ward, Froch, and Kessler can compete at 175 lbs.
I think GGG would hit a wall like Arthur Abraham did at 168
I would tend to agree.
Over Floyd.... yea.
Maybe beating the top 5 in LHW will give him the top spot.
If Floyd's active, nobody's taking the spot.
Beating Stevenson/Kovalev/Hopkins will probably propel him to that point though.
might have been a little extreme in what I said
That's agreeable, I can understand your viewpoint on that then.
GGG is probably undersized at 168 lbs. Guys like Ward, Froch, and Kessler can compete at 175 lbs.
I think GGG would hit a wall like Arthur Abraham did at 168
This is very possible. I try to give Abraham the benefit of the doubt in that he's fought some of the best in the Super Middleweight division currently.
Really? All that is necessary for him to be called #1 P4P?
Over Floyd.... yea.
Maybe beating the top 5 in LHW will give him the top spot.
If Floyd's active, nobody's taking the spot.
Beating Stevenson/Kovalev/Hopkins will probably propel him to that point though.
might have been a little extreme in what I said
Mind explaining?
My mistake, I let that last fight with Stevens like change the size of a normal middleweight in my head. They're all usually around Golovkins size
Honestly, Only way I can see Ward taking that spot while Floyd is still active is winning titles all the way up to CW or HW
That or completely clean out LHW and CW.
Really? All that is necessary for him to be called #1 P4P?
GGG is a regular sized middleweight. Stevens is short but stocky, he's the one who was fighting at 168 not so long ago.
http://youtu.be/T0sFjvk7n5c?t=2m40s
Yeah I see now, and well Stieglitz doesn't have Gennady's chin that's for sure
Since it is more than likely he will move up there at some point in his career, this is more of a projection. How would Gennady Golovkin do if he were to move up to the super middleweight division and fought guys more his size? Gennady looked very big compared to Curtis Stevens in his last bout.
GGG is a regular sized middleweight. Stevens is short but stocky, he's the one who was fighting at 168 not so long ago.
Obviously because of Stieglitz, the most avoided 168lber in boxing.
http://youtu.be/T0sFjvk7n5c?t=2m40s
In reality, a fight with GGG would do Ward's career good and GGG's career good.
GGG would legit be a top 10 P4P with a win, Ward might even make #1 P4P and gain the right to be called an ATG (IMO at least). A loss would be big, but both would still be legit afterwards
Honestly, Only way I can see Ward taking that spot while Floyd is still active is winning titles all the way up to CW or HW
That or completely clean out LHW and CW.
I hope so man...
I hope Ward grows a pair and calls out Golovkin this Saturday instead of making excuses as to why a fight with Triple G wouldn't do anything for his career.
In reality, a fight with GGG would do Ward's career good and GGG's career good.
GGG would legit be a top 10 P4P with a win, Ward might even make #1 P4P and gain the right to be called an ATG (IMO at least). A loss would be big, but both would still be legit afterwards
Since it is more than likely he will move up there at some point in his career, this is more of a projection. How would Gennady Golovkin do if he were to move up to the super middleweight division and fought guys more his size? Gennady looked very big compared to Curtis Stevens in his last bout.
Mind explaining?
I haven't really seen enough of him to make a fair judgement on his skill, but I think Gennady has the tools to do well against a lot of the guys up there.
I think that he'd find more competition at 168 though. That small jump in weight could change a lot in terms of the power of Gennady's punches as well as his opponents chin.
I hope so man...
I hope Ward grows a pair and calls out Golovkin this Saturday instead of making excuses as to why a fight with Triple G wouldn't do anything for his career.
Obviously because of Stieglitz, the most avoided 168lber in boxing.
I haven't really seen enough of Stieglitz to make a fair judgement on his skill, but I think Gennady has the tools to do well against a lot of the guys up there.
He would go up just to find the same problem he is facing now, NOBODY would want to fight him.
I think that he'd find more competition at 168 though. That small jump in weight could change a lot in terms of the power of Gennady's punches as well as his opponents chin.
Hopefully we seee this soon. So many saying hes avoided and this and that but im sure the 168's would be inviting to a match. He does have unfinished business at 160 though.
See the problem that I see with him at 160 is there aren't a lot of people, especially the titleholders, who are looking to fight him. So although he still has fighters to prove himself against, I don't see him being able to at this weight, no one wants it from GGG
He goes to Germany and gets TKO's by Stieglitz.
Haha! GGG has an iron chin man if anyone's getting TKOed its Stieglitz.
Well you gotta remember stevens is very short hes like 5'6
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Hopefully he KO's Ward. But his power would probably decrease at the weight.
Y'know, I can't really call it with Ward's chin. A flush shot from Golovkin will hurt the best of em, but in my opinion the jury is still out on Ward's chin so I wouldn't be surprised to see GGG put him out
Since it is more than likely he will move up there at some point in his career, this is more of a projection. How would Gennady Golovkin do if he were to move up to the super middleweight division and fought guys more his size? Gennady looked very big compared to Curtis Stevens in his last bout.
Well you gotta remember stevens is very short hes like 5'6