Seriously, if Adrian Broner made it unto anyone's top 10, what position he's at, I think Mikey Garcia should be at least 1 slot higher. Vote and discuss.
Mikey is a true professional whose focus is on boxing. Broner is trying to enhance his brand outside of the sport through rapping. Mikey is more like KObe while Broner is more like SHaq.
Thats why everytime you see Mikey fight he looks better or shows a new wrinkle and then interviews the way he does.
Its also why Broner doesn't appear to have improved and he always has some stupid new gimmick in the post fight interview.
I do agree that Mikey has been looking better with every outing. I've seen in his past getting hit with rights. It is not a critical issue because he is a well rounded fighter that is hard to get o because his offense/countering is so good.
Not much seperate these two guys. I'm just hoping that Mikey gets Gamboa
dont know if i completely agree with this, Toby...Mikey has kept his dominance as he moved up while Broner has looked less than spectacular at times
Mikey has looked dominant in a cool smooth fashion but is yet to meet a prime fighter on the rise.
garcia vs gamboa would be a good fight,,,
I favor garcia,, but gamboa is one of those tricky guys that if he puts it all together like in the rogers mtugawa fight, he would have a very solid shot of beating garcia,,
i honestly dont think a fight between the 2 goes the distance,,,
Mikey has deceptively fast hands and would hurt Gamboa..i can even see him stopping Yuri
He's very polished, good defense, skilled, technically sound, mixes up his offense, power. He's definitely one for the future in my eyes.
I don't think his chins bad either, Salido might not be in his prime but he still has power, and he's a very hard punching Feathweight.
I'd defnitely favour him over Gamboa but Gamboa's doing nothing at the moment anyway I can't even remember when he was last relevant.
it's funny how only around a year ago people thought a bout vs Gamboa would be a mismatch in Yuri's favor...for me, i think it would be the other way around
Mikey IS good enough to brutally expose Gamboa's flaws
Mikey would hurt Gamboa when he lands.
I would still put Broner ahead of Garcia simply because he's already spanned 3 weight classes and won belts in all. Jumping 2 weight classes and beating Malignaggi convincingly was a really good accomplishment. His fight against DeMarco was one of the best performances I've seen in year's. Garcia's equivalent performance was against Salido who is shot.
Saldio's not shot.
Passed his best certainly but he's not shot at all.
I would still put Broner ahead of Garcia simply because he's already spanned 3 weight classes and won belts in all. Jumping 2 weight classes and beating Malignaggi convincingly was a really good accomplishment. His fight against DeMarco was one of the best performances I've seen in year's. Garcia's equivalent performance was against Salido who is shot.
Their resumes are pretty similar imo. Both have only two wins of real substance.
Demarco = Salido: top 3 guy in a weak, wide open division, would be a fringe contender in a stronger class.
Malignaggi = Martinez: paper titlist and top 10 guy in the division, but clearly below the elite.
So I would say they are equals in terms of P4P standing, and neither is in my top 10.
^^^ Pretty good assessment. Both of these guys are really good. I can see them both being top 5 P4P soon enough. Need to see more of both before I say who is best.
eye test alone,, mikey looks like a much better fighter than broner,,,
mikey is a legit p4p guy right now,,,
broner needs to beatdown maidana, and he will be in the running,,, outside of the demarco fight, broner has never looked very good in any of his big fights,,,
Thats not to say broner wont be there one day,, just at the moment he isnt p4p
Broner should not be in anybody's Top 10 P4P that is just STUPID! Can/Will he be a Top 10 P4P Fighter On Day? ABSOLUTELY but he is not their yet and and win over Maidana don't put him up their IMO Either!
Beat JMM, Bradley, Mayweather or Pacquiao and maybe he cracks Top 10
And this is not the typical "I HATE BRONER SO I AM POSTING THIS TO BE NEGATIVE" like a lot of the Trolling idiots on this Forum, I am coming from A BOXING FAN POINT OF VIEW!
Yes Mikey should be Top 10 before Broner because Mikey has went out and looked more and more impressive as he steps up competition, sure he has his Flaws hell every fighter does but his Positives overshadows his Negatives and that is all you can ask for! Mikey is probably the most impressive young fighter to be honest with the potential to be a excellent ALL AROUND BOXER!
Mikey is a true professional whose focus is on boxing. Broner is trying to enhance his brand outside of the sport through rapping. Mikey is more like KObe while Broner is more like SHaq.
Thats why everytime you see Mikey fight he looks better or shows a new wrinkle and then interviews the way he does.
Its also why Broner doesn't appear to have improved and he always has some stupid new gimmick in the post fight interview.
broner is a true clown. but honestly, i think he knows it. he just doesnt care. my concern for him is like u said, the extracurricular activities. is he strong enough to stay committed to the boxing game, i have my doubts.
Both highly skilled fighters that look like the future super stars of the sport.
Broner has won more titles and Mikey don't have that big win. He was dominating Salido but that fight got stopped too early.
Also Mikey has been down and looks like he doesn't block right hands too well. Right now Broner has a smaller edge above him and if he beats Maidana in a convincingly fashion then he goes above.
Broner's persona will turn ppl away from him but it sells
Mikey is a true professional whose focus is on boxing. Broner is trying to enhance his brand outside of the sport through rapping. Mikey is more like KObe while Broner is more like SHaq.
Thats why everytime you see Mikey fight he looks better or shows a new wrinkle and then interviews the way he does.
Its also why Broner doesn't appear to have improved and he always has some stupid new gimmick in the post fight interview.
Both highly skilled fighters that look like the future super stars of the sport.
Broner has won more titles and Mikey don't have that big win. He was dominating Salido but that fight got stopped too early.
Also Mikey has been down and looks like he doesn't block right hands too well. Right now Broner has a smaller edge above him and if he beats Maidana in a convincingly fashion then he goes above.
Broner's persona will turn ppl away from him but it sells
his composure is as impressive as his skill IMO..he's a calculating boxer that knows exactly what he wants/needs to do
even in his interviews, you can see that we have a very cerebral boxer on our hands...he's on my short list of must-watch fighters
lol, i dunno if u 2 would get along in reasl life tho, his favorite boxer by far is floyd mayweather, which is understandable. hes probably one of the few who can understand what hes doing in the ring when he does it.
i forgot about the not making weight,, still broner didnt do it vs escobido so i guess they are even in that department,,,
Juanma is damaged goods from those salido fights, but mikey cant help that,,,
in 2012 juanma and salido were considered the top 2 feathers, and in 2013 mikey handled them like a boss should,,
And broner going from 135-147 is nothing when your fighting a washed up aging fighter with zero power, who just got beatdown by a journeymen and got a gift decision,,, pauli and burns are the 2 worst champs in the sport,, going up in weight vs pauli is not the same as going up to welter and tangling with say bradley, ghost, ortiz, alexander, maidana, etc
Very true,,, Garcia has skills and poise, and great ring generalship,,, broner has skills, but not alot of poise and ring generalship,,,
No he didn't go up and beat a top tier opponent, but he did go up and beat a 2nd/3rd tier ww from 135. that counts in my book, no matter if he failed to win in the way many, including me, expected.
I think Mikey is further ahead then Broner is for sure.
while I think mikey desreves to be in ahead of broner-going to 135 and 147 and winning is not nothing. and Juanma is such an overrated piece of **** it isn't funny. but my boy mikey didn't make weight for the juanma fight either.
i forgot about the not making weight,, still broner didnt do it vs escobido so i guess they are even in that department,,,
Juanma is damaged goods from those salido fights, but mikey cant help that,,,
in 2012 juanma and salido were considered the top 2 feathers, and in 2013 mikey handled them like a boss should,,
And broner going from 135-147 is nothing when your fighting a washed up aging fighter with zero power, who just got beatdown by a journeymen and got a gift decision,,, pauli and burns are the 2 worst champs in the sport,, going up in weight vs pauli is not the same as going up to welter and tangling with say bradley, ghost, ortiz, alexander, maidana, etc
Mikey is MUCH MUCH more polished than Broner and has better skills
Very true,,, Garcia has skills and poise, and great ring generalship,,, broner has skills, but not alot of poise and ring generalship,,,
seriously, if it was broner who got put on his ass, this forum would be flooded with threads about him being a glass chinned bum. thats a fact.
lol 100% truth, i like mikey but i havent seen a single thread about him getting kd by a smaller guy, if marcos kd broner all hell is gonna break loose
Mikey is MUCH MUCH more polished than Broner and has better skills
and i agree with this and i think it all has to do with pedigree. mikey just has it, it wss handed down to him and from what ive seen of the family and its' many fighters, blood relation or otherwise, he is the perfect combination of what they wanted to instill in a fighter. but part of me feels like mikey is an underachiver. like he likes to wait until his back is against the wall and his ass is on fire, otherwise it wouldnt be fun, itd be too easy. im pretty sure thats what it is. his personality and comments suggest it. and in the ring it makes sense the way he toys with guys. mikey is a prodigy tho, hes a complete boxer.