No chance of Floyd vs PAC super fight

Even when he called him out on the Victor Ortiz press conference....looked like he wanted to cry after saying ''yes your next'' :lol1: Yep. That's why he retracted it later. Just shows that he's the one holding up the fight. "...and yes Pacquiao, you're next." He practically admitted the ball has always been in his court. He can make the fight happen if he really wanted it. "...and yes Pacquiao, you're next." That's why I don't get this Pacquiao-looking-good crap. Money Mayweather will never fight any version of Pacquiao.

Dunn, serious question... How is beating Manny back in 09 any better than beating Manny now? Wouldn't it be seen as mismatch then, same way beating JMM back in 09 was? Now that Manny had his run at welter, the fight wouldn't be seen as much as a mismatch now. The only thing that really held Manny back, imo, was the JMM KO a year ago. In 2009, when manny refused to fight, it would've been a matchup between the 2 best p4p fighters in the world. that isn't the case now. Manny's ww run most recently is JMM, tim, JMM, and upcoming rios-all LW or JWW moving up. not exactly cleaning out ww. Today, most think floyd/sergio, floyd/gg, and floyd/lara are all better fights. That being the case, its hard to argue beating manny now means the same as it did then.

Beating Manny right now doesn't mean as much as it would've in 09 when manny turned down the fight. I think everyone can agree with that. Dunn, serious question... How is beating Manny back in 09 any better than beating Manny now? Wouldn't it be seen as mismatch then, same way beating JMM back in 09 was? Now that Manny had his run at welter, the fight wouldn't be seen as much as a mismatch now. The only thing that really held Manny back, imo, was the JMM KO a year ago.

i find it funny that you even may fighting serg when may has NEVER spoke about fighting him. where have you been? discussing a potential fight's releveance and whether a fighter has mentioned another as an opponent are mutually exclusive of one another.

Beating Manny right now doesn't mean as much as it would've in 09 when manny turned down the fight. I think everyone can agree with that. you are also a huge manny fan, so of course you'd say he's more relevant right now than he is. beating sergio for the mw title is far more relevant for floyds legacy than beating manny, who is,be honest, the 3rd raked ww behind tim and jmm. i find it funny that you even may fighting serg when may has NEVER spoke about fighting him. where have you been?

A lions roars can be heard from across the land and seas An Asian gladiator prepares for battle The deserted gambling city has no response The flashy one does not go to war (Fight won't happen) - Nostradamus The asian gladiator matters not. His fragile chin shatters a lot. At 147 he is a small fry. He should bring up another 135lb guy. Against those guys he looks elite. Bigger foes give him jelly feet.

A lions roars can be heard from across the land and seas An Asian gladiator prepares for battle The deserted gambling city has no response The flashy one does not go to war (Fight won't happen) - Nostradamus

damn...another fanboy-filled thread:banghead:

yes he is, but that doesnt mean i dont watch his fights does it. So you just watch his fights? Yet he is your 4th favourite fighter and a coward? Something dont add up

yes he is, but that doesnt mean i dont watch his fights does it. You're obviously not a fan though. I mean, that's obvious. Although you don't seem to post a whole lot about hardly any of your "Favourite" fighters.

he agreed to 144 then HAD to change it because he couldnt make 144. jeez And that means? You obviously don't know much about business!

im really not bothered about childish crap like making manny look bad. i dont care about that crap. yes you say manny refused over testing blah blah, and the 40 mil crap. i say he could have fought without the extra testing. you yourself said the 40 mil was a joke. but i guess in your mind that justifies manny refusing to fight. i can say mayweather refused 50 mil and 0 ppv. my opinion is based on the fact that he refused to fight without extra tests, even tho it wasnt an issue before. his rants about walking through cotto, his excuses regarding joining mayweather promotions, he cant train in his country and the list goes on. i mean just look at him in that vid i posted. does that look like a man who wants to fight? floyd asks for ped testing and you say that is "not agreeing to fight without extra testing." Manny asks for $10 mil per lb, is that manny "not agreeing to fight without an extra weight penalty"?

right im off to work peeps, its been emotional as always, but my point still stands. mayweather never has and never will want to fight him. if you dont like that conclusion then tough ****. its my opinion.

in my eyes ,mayweather agreed to 144. he realized he wasnt going to make it and got it changed hours or days before the fight. what happens if marque says no, make 144 or no fight? the point is he agreed to a weight and didnt make it. if you sign to a weight then dont make it then its completely reasonable to request you maker the ****ing agreed upon weight, not change it in the last moments. Of course it's reasonable just as asking for a simple drug test is reasonable. The point is you're saying one thing for one and not for the other. Mayweather didn't make the weight at 144, that's a different weight. Asking for it at 147 is basing off nothing, Mayweather's done nothing to suggest that a weight pentalty it needed, but, he accepted it any way because why not? It's nothing. Mayweather requested simple testing. It was declined. You're justification for it is a double standard.

Because maybe he thought he could make the weight, but found it much more difficult than he thought. Especially with a recently broken rib. None of that matter though, because again, THE CONTRACT WAS CHANGED BEFORE THE WEIGH IN! That means that he never came in over a contracted weight! How difficult it that to understand. You know who has though? Pac! TWICE! he agreed to 144 then HAD to change it because he couldnt make 144. jeez

favourite fighter is marquez, as you can see in the list. you dont have to be a manny fan to talk about mayweather pacman. despite your list in you sig, its pretty clear you are a manny fan. Foir example, you kill floyd for saying manny needs to join TMT to get fight but I have never seen you ever take manny/bob to task for making JMM do same. (maybe you have and I haven't seen it).

Your list dont mean s**t! You got Mayweather in your top 5 but you say he's a coward. yes he is, but that doesnt mean i dont watch his fights does it.

why sign for 144? mayweather agreed to 144. thats the whole point. if you cant see that then..... Because maybe he thought he could make the weight, but found it much more difficult than he thought. Especially with a recently broken rib. None of that matter though, because again, THE CONTRACT WAS CHANGED BEFORE THE WEIGH IN! That means that he never came in over a contracted weight! How difficult it that to understand. You know who has though? Pac! TWICE!

How can you base something off a situation at a different weight? If Madiana asked Broner to pay 10 Million per lb he comes in overweight at 147, is that justified in your eyes? Pacquaio and his team have nothing to suggest Mayweather couldn't make 147 yet they requested it anyway. So in your eyes I suppose that makes them scared as they hadn't made such requests prior to that. in my eyes ,mayweather agreed to 144. he realized he wasnt going to make it and got it changed hours or days before the fight. what happens if marque says no, make 144 or no fight? the point is he agreed to a weight and didnt make it. if you sign to a weight then dont make it then its completely reasonable to request you maker the ****ing agreed upon weight, not change it in the last moments.

It most certainly changes it. It means that agreeing to it and not making it means nothing, because the terms were changed with Marquez agreeing to them. You can't sit there and use that as an excuse for Pac requesting his 10mil per lb penalty, when Floyd never even missed the contracted weight. It sounds like no matter what, you WANT to side with Pacquiao, even if it it goes against the facts! why sign for 144? mayweather agreed to 144. thats the whole point. if you cant see that then.....