Bob Arums Wikipedia

What does that have to do with him ducking Foreman two years later, SlurpaMan? You do realise my post was in response to another poster who claimed Ali never ducked anybody, even though that blatantly isn't true, right? Really, why am I even attempting a rational debate with someone as thick and ignorant as you? I really dont consider it a duck if you dominate someone and knock them out. A duck to me is someone that you have to fight to show who's better, and you refuse to fight them. SRL had a close fight with Hagler, so he needed a rematch to show who's better and he ducked him.

But he dominated and knocked him out. What does that have to do with him ducking Foreman two years later, SlurpaMan? You do realise my post was in response to another poster who claimed Ali never ducked anybody, even though that blatantly isn't true, right? Really, why am I even attempting a rational debate with someone as thick and ignorant as you?

He has supreme skills no doubt. But he still ducked Pacquiao. No big deal though. Human nature. But that one opponent doesnt take away from all of the guys he dominated and white washed. Since we arent going to credit all the other ATG's for guys they ducked, then why are we being hard on Floyd? When Floyd would probably white wash all of those other ATG's in my opinion.

Ali's career post-Norton lll was full of him avoiding other fighters and selecting guys who had no business being in the ring with him. He clearly and blatantly ducked a lucrative rematch with Foreman during this period. And as far as the topic of "ducking" is concerned: do yourself a favour and avoid any level of conversation with 'SlurpaSlurpa.' That quote of idiots and being dragged down to their level springs to mind with regards to him. But he dominated and knocked him out. It wasnt a close fight like SRL Hagler. SRL ducked him, cherrypicked him when he was old, barely won, and didnt give a rematch.

I was going to mention that earlier... That Ali is the only guy who ducked no one, but I don't think Frazier, Norton even Chuck Wepner and Berbick ducked back then too I dont count frazier, Norton etc because they werent polarizing enough to get a nod for being the GOAT. I count Ali, SRR, SRL, and FMJ. Those are the guys that outshined in their era. If people stop going out of their way to discredit Floyd, I think people would see him as the GOAT in history. His skills are legendary. He fights a variation of unique styles, and completely compromises his own style in order to dominate them without getting grazed. People make it seem like he cherrypicks random bums from mexico, and they go out of their way to discredit him. If people realize that other fighters have done WORSE cherrypicking, and they just focused on skillset, I think Floyd is the best fighter I have ever witnessed. Im not a fanboy of his like some of the guys here, but it really bothers me that people discredit the man. He can f.ucking FIGHT forget all that ducking and picking opponents mess.

You should be the last one calling anyone f*ckboys. Your b*tchass comes in every Pacquiao/Arum thread with Floyd's c0ck up your ass and his nuts on your face. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android hahaha typical pacfan f*ckboy crying like a coward. Go ahead 2012... loll

waiting for the Pacfan f*ckboys to come in and cry like the fairy b*tches they are... wait for it... "but but but but but Floyd". You should be the last one calling anyone f*ckboys. Your b*tchass comes in every Pacquiao/Arum thread with Floyd's c0ck up your ass and his nuts on your face. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

Had to update the page again.

We got floyd spastics editing wikipedia articles now?:rofl:

Ali's career post-Norton lll was full of him avoiding other fighters and selecting guys who had no business being in the ring with him. He clearly and blatantly ducked a lucrative rematch with Foreman during this period. And as far as the topic of "ducking" is concerned: do yourself a favour and avoid any level of conversation with 'SlurpaSlurpa.' That quote of idiots and being dragged down to their level springs to mind with regards to him.

If I remember correctly, the most outrageous demand was something like 10 million dollars for every pound over if Floyd came in heavier than 147. Yea and Floyd agreed. Then later on Floyd ducked. I dont give Floyd credit for ducking Marg, Cotto, Tzu, etc. Floyd structured his career to go directly to two money fights; Oscar and Gatti. Not overly credible, but big money ppv events. I dont give him credit for not fighting whoever was in between. But if I did, I would give Pac credit for all the guys he didnt fight when he started climbing weight classes. I give Floyd credit for ducking only Shane, and Pac. But SRL ducked Pryor, and Hagler, then cherrypicked him when he was old. SRR ducked Burley and the Coa Coa Kid, I believe. Ali is the only one who ducked no one.

I bet the guy who edited that page also posted that picture of Arum looking so devious and untrustworthy.

I actually think the fight would have been made but Floyd didn't want it. We both know both sides of the argument so no need to go there. There are just too many personal things Mayweather and his promoters injected into the whole saga. Personal attacks, character defamations... They just made it to personal and in my entrepreneurial opinion, showed that business was not their priority. This belief was further cemented when TR reserved the MGM Grand for the JCCJR fight vs Martinez bout. GBP looking out for their own personal egos and pride went ahead and scheduled Canelo down the street at the Thomas and Mack center, forcing boxing fans to choose which event to watch. Just bad for boxing and bad for business. Made absolutely no sense. On the other hand, Bradley Marquez was intended to be held on Mexican Independence Day, but when GBP took that date for Mayweather vs Canelo, TR rescheduled for October. Too many personal feelings from GBP and Mayweather. To be fair, Pac ducked Floyd first. Pac had outrageous demands, and Floyd shocked everyone by agreeing to them. Then Floyd asked for random drug test. Pac said he would do a 24 day cut off. Then Floyd budged and said he would do 7, then Pac said 24, then Floyd said 14, then Pac said 24. Then after Pac had a few tough fights, and Floyd had beaten Ortiz, Pac finally agreed, but then Floyd ducked him in return. Same with Mosley. Shane ducked, then Floyd ducked. Not to discredit Floyd for ducking because he did duck.

Check out his page when you get a chance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Arum Notice anything unusual? DAMNNN!!! His page is dedicated to GOING INNNN on him!!!

Oh God just let this fight happen so these 2 equally annoying, and equally hard core nut sack licking fan base shuts the fk up, well at least half of it will. I'll take that any day. That is all I want for Christmas i don't even give two sh*ts who wins. Please Santa!

Lmfao at bob arum calling ufc fans "white skinheads" or "two homosexuals rolling on the ground" hahaha hate him or dislike him bob arums a true don

The Canelo fight was good choice. I actually think the Canelo fight was planned back in 2009. They had mentioned Canelo, an unknown outside of Mexico as an alternative to Pacquiao. Next thing you know, Canelo starts showing up on Mayweather's undercards. Then, he's headlining on Mexican Independence Day with Floyd. Just brilliant execution and marketing. This was when people started saying Floyd would never fight him and would duck him. Now he's considered "too green". A lot of people did the same with Mosley. Pac's team said he was "too good", a lot of people said Floyd, like Pac, wouldn't ever fight the WW Champion in Shane Mosley. Ironically, after the fight everyone called him old and washed up. What's more ironic is Pac then moved on to fight him. But yeah, the marketing was well played and pretty clear on their intentions down the road.

The Canelo fight was good choice. I actually think the Canelo fight was planned back in 2009. They had mentioned Canelo, an unknown outside of Mexico as an alternative to Pacquiao. Next thing you know, Canelo starts showing up on Mayweather's undercards. Then, he's headlining on Mexican Independence Day with Floyd. Just brilliant execution and marketing. I'm glad somebody remembers that besides me; they talked about Floyyd fighting him Mexico City and I said who the hell is Canelo. Canelo said he offered the fight in 2011 but he declined and fought Ortiz instead. They built that fight perfectly they even made people think Floyd was scared of Canelo because he wouldn't a signed contract guranteiing him a fight.

Well, I'm always paying attention to what they do with their money. Not so much the bling and car purchases, but their investments. I look at their successes and failures and apply what they did right and wrong to my own endeavors. Not just boxers, but anyone really. I also look at what Pacquiao does and that guy is in dire need of a financial education. Also read a good interview with Amir Khan and that guy seems to know how to handle his money. He'll,probably make less than, but will have more money than Pacquiaonand Floyd 20 years from now. But back to the original thread topic which was about Arum... I do think Arum is wizard of a promoter and Schaeffer with time will surpass him. Pacquiao vs Rios is coming up and I am really looking forward to seeing how the Chinese market reacts to big time boxing in their country. I do the same but not when it comes to most boxers or athletes who mostly rely on a skill set rather than real business smarts. As for Bob, yes he is brilliant and knows all of boxing. He gets what he wants when he wants it. He's been doing it for decades. But like I said, his time is limited and I don't think that will be a bad thing either.

Because whatever money Arum makes off of Floyd again, gives Floyd an opportunity to collect what he is owed. Floyd can make money. No doubt about it. And tons of it. But he could make a hell of a lot more if he weren't such an emotional businessman. "why should I help you make more money when you already owe me some." That's stepping over dollars to pick up pennies. What that means is Floyd and to a certain extent you, would let a debt of 5 million stop you from making 50 million for petty personal reasons. Makes plenty of emotional sense, but makes no business sense. Sometimes in business you have to know which deals to take and what deal not to. In reality with a 50-50 deal Floyd would make more money fighting Canelo than he would have for Manny since he had a larger cut. That PPV is at 2.2 mil and counting which in turn mean the Floyd Manny fight would have prob had to do 3.5 mil PPV for him to make the same money.