Why do people think Cotto would beat Martinez?

simple martinez its very overated, a old men begging for paydays just like he challenge floyd,cotto and if im not mistaking he said if manny comes up to 154 he will also fight him so please this bum martinez will get his ass kick by all 3 names i just drop!!

I have no idea. Martinez has all the advantages over Cotto.

Sergio would beat Cotto. As bad as Sergio's declined. Cotto's declined even more so, at a weight class he's not even natural in.

Well I think a lot of it is based on the notion that Martinez is shot and Cotto has been reinvented in some way. I, for one, am not a fan of Cotto fighting at a higher weight. To be honest, I don't even like him fighting at JMW. I honestly don't think he's been "reinvented". Seriously...who thought Rodriguez was going to win that fight? He did what he was supposed to do when he got the KO early. I would love to see Cotto go back to 147. He was a beast amongst men. He's going to have more trouble getting away from Cotto than he did against Chavez Jr., Macklin, and Murray. His knees have very much slowed down his movement and he does get trapped more than he used to, but Maravilla on the inside is no slouch. Cotto needs to be in great shape and have the gameplan down before fight night. Sergio might take Cotto's best and smile. I doubt it, Maravilla's chin hasn't ever been the greatest and softening him up to body will help too. My thing is that Maravilla fights at an angle. He always has his body tucked at an angle. I haven't seen anyone (of recent memory) be able to get to his body. Cotto is short and doesn't have a long reach at Middleweight. Punching power means nothing when you can't reach your target. Cotto can definitely cut off the ring better than a Chavez or Murray but I think the size difference will be too big for Cotto to overcome. Martinez is pretty slick. I just think that it's going too hard for Cotto to get inside on Martinez. Of course, If Martinez does something stupid like try and trade with Cotto, I can see him losing. But, I don't think he'll do that.

Again, nice breakdown. My thoughts, though, is that no one ever consistently hits Sergio to the body and no one ever pins him up against the ropes. With his longer reach and stronger power at the higher weights, I see Sergio able to wither the early storm and being able to stop Cotto in the middle rounds. He's going to have more trouble getting away from Cotto than he did against Chavez Jr., Macklin, and Murray. His knees have very much slowed down his movement and he does get trapped more than he used to, but Maravilla on the inside is no slouch. Cotto needs to be in great shape and have the gameplan down before fight night. Sergio might take Cotto's best and smile. I doubt it, Maravilla's chin hasn't ever been the greatest and softening him up to body will help too.

Well I think a lot of it is based on the notion that Martinez is shot and Cotto has been reinvented in some way. I, for one, am not a fan of Cotto fighting at a higher weight. To be honest, I don't even like him fighting at JMW.

Nice breakdown. I disagree on the "better boxer" part. I don't see the jab landing with consistency. I think Maravilla will eventually time it and start to land hard right hooks on the top of Cotto's jab. Then, Cotto will try to outbox Sergio and he'll learn very quickly that it's hard to outbox someone who has all the physical advantages over you. He'll also be at the end of Martinez's Left straight. I see Cotto getting KO'd in a valiant effort but comes up short. I agree with most of this if we were talking prime Sergio circa 2009-2010. That is not the case now and that's why this fight is more competitive and intriguing in 2014. Sergio would be 38 and coming off a long layoff and knee surgery. Those factors could make a difference at this point.

Sergio's hands down and constant movement style works very well against pressure fighters who have no clue how to cut off the ring, ie. Chavez Jr. But when he's trapped in corners and on the ropes, like in the Murray fight, he can be touched and frequently. Cotto cuts off the ring better than anyone in game, only one close is GGG. He needs to work his jab and attack Maravilla's body early and often, but that's not impossible for him to do. Most important, is that Freddie get him in shape and condition for the highest weight of his career. He'll need to be moving often to get to Sergio and he needs to be prepared for that. Again, nice breakdown. My thoughts, though, is that no one ever consistently hits Sergio to the body and no one ever pins him up against the ropes. With his longer reach and stronger power at the higher weights, I see Sergio able to wither the early storm and being able to stop Cotto in the middle rounds.

Yes but Margarito learned his style much earlier on than Sergio. I think a rematch at middleweight or even 154 would leave Margarito damaged....but he's retired now so it's not much to debate. And yes. Nobody expected Macklin to come into the fight boxing off the back foot. If he fought the same fight he did against Sturm, he would've gotten KO'ed earlier. And Barker had a nice gameplan. Still got knocked out but he had a good gameplan to make the fight last longer. so margo a better at adapting than sergio?...lol..i think margo is just a bad style match up for sergio period ...with margs' easily broken orbital bone now martinez might win by technicality, but with segio's knee issues , it might be a pick em fight... nobody cares about excuses esp for a 3 off nights....thats **** just wont fly.

I think this is a 50-50 fight. If Martinez can turn back the clock (pre-Chavez 12th round) then I would favor him to win, but he hasn't looked great since that 12th round and I believe that's why many think Cotto can win.

I think Cotto is a better boxer, in the traditional sense, than Martínez. Cotto has solid skills and fundamentals, while Sergio relies more on reflexes and athleticism. Sergio is this generation's Roy and that style does not work for a long career. This is an intriguing, even fight right now. I could see Cotto landing the jab at an alarming rate and, possibly, getting a win on points but I could also see a Sergio moving or knocking Cotto out with one shot. Sergio has slowed down enough to make this fight as even as it could ever be. Nice breakdown. I disagree on the "better boxer" part. I don't see the jab landing with consistency. I think Maravilla will eventually time it and start to land hard right hooks on the top of Cotto's jab. Then, Cotto will try to outbox Sergio and he'll learn very quickly that it's hard to outbox someone who has all the physical advantages over you. He'll also be at the end of Martinez's Left straight. I see Cotto getting KO'd in a valiant effort but comes up short.

what he had an off night vs barker too , or macklin?.. defensive ?.. murray just used the high guard and landed at will...dont even say presssure fighters coz he lost to margs..i know he was young then but so was margs... Yes but Margarito learned his style much earlier on than Sergio. I think a rematch at middleweight or even 154 would leave Margarito damaged....but he's retired now so it's not much to debate. And yes. Nobody expected Macklin to come into the fight boxing off the back foot. If he fought the same fight he did against Sturm, he would've gotten KO'ed earlier. And Barker had a nice gameplan. Still got knocked out but he had a good gameplan to make the fight last longer.

I think Cotto is a better boxer, in the traditional sense, than Martínez. Cotto has solid skills and fundamentals, while Sergio relies more on reflexes and athleticism. Sergio is this generation's Roy and that style does not work for a long career. This is an intriguing, even fight right now. I could see Cotto landing the jab at an alarming rate and, possibly, getting a win on points but I could also see a Sergio moving or knocking Cotto out with one shot. Sergio has slowed down enough to make this fight as even as it could ever be.

My biggest question is "how" does Cotto win? I mean, I get that you think Cotto would win, but break down HOW he would win. Sergio's hands down and constant movement style works very well against pressure fighters who have no clue how to cut off the ring, ie. Chavez Jr. But when he's trapped in corners and on the ropes, like in the Murray fight, he can be touched and frequently. Cotto cuts off the ring better than anyone in game, only one close is GGG. He needs to work his jab and attack Maravilla's body early and often, but that's not impossible for him to do. Most important, is that Freddie get him in shape and condition for the highest weight of his career. He'll need to be moving often to get to Sergio and he needs to be prepared for that.

Yeah, that seems to be the consensus online. Personally, I think Sergio had an off night against Murray. He doesn't look as spectacular against defensive fighters as he does against overly-aggressive fighters. But, against fighters that want to pressure him, Sergio looks amazing. what he had an off night vs barker too , or macklin?.. defensive ?.. murray just used the high guard and landed at will...dont even say presssure fighters coz he lost to margs..i know he was young then but so was margs...

Sergio has never fought a fighter with the ring IQ of Miguel Cotto. Not even close. It's different when your tactics are matched and one upped through out a fight. Cotto beats him. My biggest question is "how" does Cotto win? I mean, I get that you think Cotto would win, but break down HOW he would win.

Sergio has never fought a fighter with the ring IQ of Miguel Cotto. Not even close. It's different when your tactics are matched and one upped through out a fight. Cotto beats him.

that's perception for you whether justified or not. we see how it works on this site in a vacuum. a promising fighter has an off night and he's a hypejob. a good fighter loses to a better fighter and he's a bum. Yeah, that seems to be the consensus online. Personally, I think Sergio had an off night against Murray. He doesn't look as spectacular against defensive fighters as he does against overly-aggressive fighters. But, against fighters that want to pressure him, Sergio looks amazing.

Cotto's veteran type pressure, heavy body shots and snapping jab will be too much for fragile knees to handle. Chavez was high like a kite through the fight and all of the sudden he decided to let those hands go and threw Sergio around like a ragdoll. Chavez would mop the floor with cotto

Cotto beat Delvin Rodriguez......This dude went Life-and-Death with Pawel Wolak....I know what you're thinking....Who the **** is that? That's exactly my point. Cotto destroyed an ESPN fighter that already lost to Trout. that's perception for you whether justified or not. we see how it works on this site in a vacuum. a promising fighter has an off night and he's a hypejob. a good fighter loses to a better fighter and he's a bum.