From what I hear they are offering Cotto a fight against Carlos Molina for the IBF belt for 5 million in New York and on that same night Canelo vs he winner of Trout-Lara in Los Angeles. Their pitch to Cotto is that if they win that would set up an even bigger fight in July vs Canelo and that having both Cotto and Canelo on the same card would bring huge PPV numbers.
Their pitch is a 2 fight deal that would bring over 25 million for him in just 2 fights.
Its common knowledge that GBPs is going to offer him a better pay day than anyone else.
I believe Cotto is just sitting back waiting for all offers before he signs anything.
We should see Cotto vs Alvarez and Bob Arum won't have a thing to say about it. When you want a fight that Bob Arum doesn't, you remove him from the equation. Cotto has successfully done this before.
Floyd has done this for the better half of his career. People forget that Bob wanted Floyd to duck Hoya. He didn't want Floyd fighting Cotto or Hatton either.
Really? Didn't he only make a million with them against Trout?
http://www.boxingscene.com/cotto-offered-over-10-million-canelo-march--71391
as referenced in my initial post, it is common knowledge he will make more with GBP's than anything anyone else currently has to offer...
Who else is going to offer Cotto $10 million for a fight?
I would like to see that as well if boxing was an actual sport,, but its a money-grabbing business and putting cotto-canelo up vs lara, trout, molina is a recipe for disaster,,, remember when they had oscar-sturm and hopkins-allen on the same card to setup hopkins-oscar,,, oscar looked like crap vs sturm and hopkins was boring vs allen, and i think it really hurt the hype and ppv buys for it.......
plus that is what is wrong with boxing,,, floyd is the 154 champ, like it or not,, all these belts these guys have dont mean crap,,,,
molina beat ishe who beat k9 who beat spinks
lara/trout is for a vacant belt
none of those guys are true champs,,,,
not to be mean but you are the exact reason why we have so many belts and sanctioning bodies,, people wanna see a "title" fight,, not caring if the belts actually mean anything or the guy is a legit champ,,,,,That is why boxing is a joke of a sport
Boxing fans shouldnt care about the belts because they are meaningless, you should just wanna see good fights,,,
Floyd is the 154 champ. But, he's not fighting at that weight unless there is big money involved. In the mean time, its up to the remaining pieces in the division to fight each other to determine who the champ is if and when he vacates. Its not my fault these paper belts exist. Its the champions fault for not fighting their mandatories and the top contenders in line for their titles.
And there can not be a credible champion or top contender at 154 if you simply skip over Molina and the Lara/Trout winner. GBP is trying to find a sacrificial lamb to take Molina's belt. The IBF shot down Ortiz and rightfully so. If this rumor is true, then it looks like Cotto is trying to become that new pawn to prevent a Canelo vs. Molina fight.
Why is GBP looking for OTHERS to come do Canelo dirty work and beat Molina! Why don't Canelo jump in with Molina and quickly try to get another belt around his waist
Just strange that they would rather throw Ortiz in with Molina or get Cotto to come fight Molina but Canelo is not even being mentioned
I think the idea is to make Cotto/Canelo a world championship fight. That's why Lara (WBA regular) and Molina (IBF) are in the mix.
Plus Lara and Molina have been ducked by the rest of the division for too long. If Lara beats Trout he needs to get Floyd or Canelo ASAP.
I would like to see that as well if boxing was an actual sport,, but its a money-grabbing business and putting cotto-canelo up vs lara, trout, molina is a recipe for disaster,,, remember when they had oscar-sturm and hopkins-allen on the same card to setup hopkins-oscar,,, oscar looked like crap vs sturm and hopkins was boring vs allen, and i think it really hurt the hype and ppv buys for it.......
plus that is what is wrong with boxing,,, floyd is the 154 champ, like it or not,, all these belts these guys have dont mean crap,,,,
molina beat ishe who beat k9 who beat spinks
lara/trout is for a vacant belt
none of those guys are true champs,,,,
not to be mean but you are the exact reason why we have so many belts and sanctioning bodies,, people wanna see a "title" fight,, not caring if the belts actually mean anything or the guy is a legit champ,,,,,That is why boxing is a joke of a sport
Boxing fans shouldnt care about the belts because they are meaningless, you should just wanna see good fights,,,
I do and dont like this plan,,, I like the split site ppv idea but not the opponents,,
molina, lara, trout are all to risky, and even if canelo and cotto win, they wont look good at all in doing so,,,
IMO
canelo-angulo-- both coming off loses,, good action fight
cotto-ortiz-- big money action fight, if not ortiz then k9 or ghost, soto-karass, etc
i think canelo and cotto would look terrific and then their summer fight gets even bigger
but them in with molina, trout and lara is a recipe for doom
I think the idea is to make Cotto/Canelo a world championship fight. That's why Lara (WBA regular) and Molina (IBF) are in the mix.
Plus Lara and Molina have been ducked by the rest of the division for too long. If Lara beats Trout he needs to get Floyd or Canelo ASAP.
I do and dont like this plan,,, I like the split site ppv idea but not the opponents,,
molina, lara, trout are all to risky, and even if canelo and cotto win, they wont look good at all in doing so,,,
IMO
canelo-angulo-- both coming off loses,, good action fight
cotto-ortiz-- big money action fight, if not ortiz then k9 or ghost, soto-karass, etc
i think canelo and cotto would look terrific and then their summer fight gets even bigger
but them in with molina, trout and lara is a recipe for doom
That makes more sense to me, especially for Canelo. I can't see them matching him with Lara. Angulo is an easier mark and easier to sell to the public with Angulo's style.
I do and dont like this plan,,, I like the split site ppv idea but not the opponents,,
molina, lara, trout are all to risky, and even if canelo and cotto win, they wont look good at all in doing so,,,
IMO
canelo-angulo-- both coming off loses,, good action fight
cotto-ortiz-- big money action fight, if not ortiz then k9 or ghost, soto-karass, etc
i think canelo and cotto would look terrific and then their summer fight gets even bigger
but them in with molina, trout and lara is a recipe for doom
Those match up looks good on paper. But in reality it would be hard to look against any of those guys and let alone there is a possibility they might lose their respective matches.
I'm betting the house he's fighting Martinez 1st.
From what I've heard they're trying to work out the logistics as far as getting the fight made at Metlife for June the day before the PR Day Parade. Todd Debouf apparently is really tight with the owner of Metlife and they've expressed a lot of interest in having a Boxing event there, and this would be a hell of an Inaugural Event.
I think Cotto makes more money fighting Martinez first then having the option in the Fall for Canelo (if he beats Trout in a rematch). I don't think Cotto would entertain a Molina fight. The only fights they're going for right now are big money fights. I think Canelo's next 3 opponents lined up are: Victor Ortiz, Trout if he beats Lara, Cotto (if he beats Martinez).
Too much risk, Molina is a dangerous and unknown b-side so I don't see how 5 mil is coming Cotto's way. Trout vs Lara is a gamble of a fight, dont think people are really interested in watching Trout v Canelo 2 and I really dont think Canelo wins vs Lara
It has nothing to really do with Canelo not being able to beat Molina that is just a terrible fight for him to get back on the horse with.
Canelo is a prized thoroughbred but he just got outclassed by a super horse, you don't put him right back in a tough mud slog against a mudder like Molina.
What is the upside in that fight for Canelo he wins but he probably doesn't look good, so people question him more and more importantly he probably starts to question himself.
Canelo going in against Molina would probably be the worst match-making ever event though he probably wins.
Cotto is a grizzled vet with a solid following so those worries don't really apply to him but from GBP's point of view they would probably hope Molina made Cotto look kind of bad thus possibly softening him a bit that way because Canelo is their prized horse with the future after all.
(sorry for the horse heavy post been watching a lot of the ponies)
So you're agreeing that GB is looking for a sacrifical lamb to put in there vs Molina instead of using Canelo himself.
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