As the wins against Macklin, Rosado and Stevens have seemingly pushed Golovkin into the middleweight slot and a fight with Martinez is what everyone wants, who do you all think?
A poll will be useful because this is all everyone seems to be talking about.
A few years ago this is what I would've said. Going off Martinez' recent form I'm not so sure. I'm still not fully sold on GGG, think he made a lot of mistakes on Saturday that Sergio would make him pay for. At this stage in their careers, I think the momentum is with Golovkin although I'm not as confident with that pick as most people on here seem to be. He didn't look great to me this weekend, against someone who was seemingly a step down from Macklin.
It's all a question of how physically fit Martinez is going into the fight. Reading what most have written here and it's a good cross section of boxing fans, we all believe Martinez has the skill, the will and the technical brilliance to beat Golovkin but does he still have the physical strength?
We will have to wait and see.
That's what we have surgery for, to fix whatever it is that is stopping us physically. If Sergio didn't get the surgery, I would say he losses because his leg wouldn't hold up. But, he no longer has to fight 2 fights in the ring. I'm going with the lineal champ, the proven fighter.
Surgeries fix injuries and but it's not guaranteed that you will recover 100% from them you retard. Especially at 40 years old. Jesus.
Did Martinez's knee look 100% to you his last fight? Did you fail to see how he struggled to get up?
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Martinez at 60% beats Golovkin and looks good doing it. Bet your houses on that!
A few years ago this is what I would've said. Going off Martinez' recent form I'm not so sure. I'm still not fully sold on GGG, think he made a lot of mistakes on Saturday that Sergio would make him pay for. At this stage in their careers, I think the momentum is with Golovkin although I'm not as confident with that pick as most people on here seem to be. He didn't look great to me this weekend, against someone who was seemingly a step down from Macklin.
You're drunk. Martinez is on his way out and went down three times in his last three fights. He barely got past his last opponent and the fight before that almost got stopped by Chavez Jr. in the last round. Golovkin would spank Martinez and finish him.
what do you mean almost got stopped? you say it as if chavez managed to do anything in the previous 11 and a half rounds. it was a virtual shut out. chavez only managed to damage martinez when martinez broke his hand and couldn't use a two fisted attack AND damaged his knee.
put your money or points where your mouth is bro
Martinez at 60% beats Golovkin and looks good doing it. Bet your houses on that!
You're drunk. Martinez is on his way out and went down three times in his last three fights. He barely got past his last opponent and the fight before that almost got stopped by Chavez Jr. in the last round. Golovkin would spank Martinez and finish him.
After looking at how Martinez struggled in his last fight I don't see how he can beat Golovkin at this point. Make the fight so Martinez can pass the torch of the legitimate middleweight champion to GGG. But if Sergio still has one or two great fights left in him then I'll kick back and enjoy the show.
Not the way that he fights, no.
I stated that time and time again it's defensive fighters that trouble Sergio. Barker and Macklin both fought defensively against Sergio and got roughed up as soon as they forgot to do so.
I can't see Golovkin fighting defensively in any way.
i think you're being blinded by what you would like to see rather than facts if u think martinez ko's ggg then I'll be happy to bet against u as I'm sure 99% of this forum would.
You don't think GGG could make it 1 round longer than Barker or Macklin? I bet Macklin would disagree. Or was Sergio's prime already over by then?
Not the way that he fights, no.
I stated that time and time again it's defensive fighters that trouble Sergio. Barker and Macklin both fought defensively against Sergio and got roughed up as soon as they forgot to do so.
I can't see Golovkin fighting defensively in any way.
A recovered Martinez KO's Golovkin.
Time and time again it's defensive fighters that trouble Martinez. Fighters that get hit don't last. Chavez was the only one to stay standing because as we all know, he's no middle weight.
Golovkin's jab was the only thing keeping Stevens in check, who rocked him pretty hard in the fourth. Martinez has a better jab and won't get bullied by Golovkin's
Truthfully, the only thing that really impresses me about Golovkin is his power. He really only shows versatility in punching when he has cornered his opponent. His movement is mediocre, he can't fight stepping back and freezes up when he gets hit. His power is his great equalizer and it is frightful.
That being said, it wouldn't trouble Martinez. Golovkin doesn't have the quick enough defense to negate Martinez's offense. His best and only hope would be to weather the storm and tire him out like Chavez did, but can he take the same punishment Chavez did and stay standing??
You don't think GGG could make it 1 round longer than Barker or Macklin? I bet Macklin would disagree. Or was Sergio's prime already over by then?
A recovered Martinez KO's Golovkin.
Time and time again it's defensive fighters that trouble Martinez. Fighters that get hit don't last. Chavez was the only one to stay standing because as we all know, he's no middle weight.
Golovkin's jab was the only thing keeping Stevens in check, who rocked him pretty hard in the fourth. Martinez has a better jab and won't get bullied by Golovkin's
Truthfully, the only thing that really impresses me about Golovkin is his power. He really only shows versatility in punching when he has cornered his opponent. His movement is mediocre, he can't fight stepping back and freezes up when he gets hit. His power is his great equalizer and it is frightful.
That being said, it wouldn't trouble Martinez. Golovkin doesn't have the quick enough defense to negate Martinez's offense. His best and only hope would be to weather the storm and tire him out like Chavez did, but can he take the same punishment Chavez did and stay standing??
I'm a fan of both, but I can't see Sergio winning this fight if he has indeed lost a step (or two) as displayed in his last fight. Even if he can turn back the clock, GGG has a chance (more than a punchers chance, too) to win because Sergio doesn't have the best of chins and has a leaky defense.
With things as they are, I think GGG would stop Sergio around the 6th round.
Martinez is brittle, taller, has been knocked down multiple times recently, does not use a high guard defense and is known for show boating, he will get KO'd easier by GGG.
It's quite easy to stay on your feet when all you're doing is holding a high defense, looking out for every punch and backing up constantly. Martinez is a much better version of Proska, and no version of Proska would ever beat GGG, same with Martinez, bad matchup.
How can you compare Martinez with Proksa, a guy who was schooled by Mora and went life and death w/Kerry Hope (& lost); Darren Barker KO'd Hope in 4...
This reminds me of when Chavez Jr. stopped Andy Lee (a counterpunching southpaw) and people started saying that Chavez would do the same thing to Martinez.
The thing is Martinez is not just quick with his feet, but his also uses smart movement. He packs a deadly overhand left and right hook that keeps his opponents at bay. He'll probably set a lot of traps for Golovkin with the left hand if GGG thinks he can bullrush Sergio; he'll have to respect Sergio's power.
There are just too many uncertainties with Martinez at this point. If they were to fight for Martinez's next fight, which they won't, I would go with Golovkin (probably) based on the injury/age/layoff. Martinez circa Pavlik and Williams 2, I'd go with Martinez with too much movement, speed and angles. I'd like to see Golovkin with a Murray, Barker or Quillin fight first though.
I have always liked Sergio think he is a cool guy, fights hard and with a lot of style but Golovkin is a beast of a different sort. He has incredible skill and punch placement, scary accuracy and punching technique. He stops Sergio in 7 or 8.
He couldn't "murder" Stevens inside 7 but he'll "murder" Martinez?
Martinez is brittle, taller, has been knocked down multiple times recently, does not use a high guard defense and is known for show boating, he will get KO'd easier by GGG.
It's quite easy to stay on your feet when all you're doing is holding a high defense, looking out for every punch and backing up constantly. Martinez is a much better version of Proska, and no version of Proska would ever beat GGG, same with Martinez, bad matchup.
Who was the last LINEAL champion that was threw under the bus as having no chance? Ok it was Danny Garcia. And now it's Sergio?
Danny defied odds for his belts. Sergio barely survived cherrypicks.