If Lomachenko beat this boxers in 3 years how good he is??

If Lomachenko beats. Salido, Santa Cruz, Mares, Rigo, Gamboa, Donaire, Micky Garcia. How good is he?? I think some people are confused as to what you're saying, what with all their ridiculous comments about oh no, that fight won't happen or styles dont match. I understand what you're asking, simply ,if Lomo could beat these guys, how would he be ranked. If he beat these opponents, over the next 2-3 years and won multiple championships, he would have to be ranked as one of the best fighters of the 21st century. No doubt about it.

He is moving faster fighting Salido in his 2 fight. He want all the big names Salido is very very beatable by guys who can box he is the reason i said some of the guys you mentioned but that fight isn't set in stone yet i doubt his people want to do that yet, that is just Arum trying to get some buzz going for him but if it does happen Salido could shock the sh*t of Lomachenko . If he had a few more fights under his belt then we would know if its true there is no way he could loose against Salido but with so many Unknowns and Salido being a rugged ass moffo the outcome can't be accurately predicted just speculated at this point i would give Salido a big chance.

Sh*t you guys want to move him faster than he wants to move himself he has the biggest advantage going for him which is he didn't start as a pro at 30 like Rigo so why rush him give him a couple years of acclimating with decent opposition before you throw him in there with top guys. As great as you may be as an amateur you don't know how your chin,stamina rationing, and many other things will work as a pro until you face decent competition that applies to everyone, and the importance of being used to that gets multiplied by 5 when facing a top level guy like some of those you mentioned. But to answer your question if he did that in 3 years his nick should be "Vasyl The Second Coming of Christ Lomachenko" He is moving faster fighting Salido in his 2 fight. He want all the big names

He'd be a HOF, near ATG. That's a hell of a list of names.

Pretty damn amazing if he manages to beat all of those in 3 years.

I don't know if Vasyl beat Rigo, but in my opinion with 5 fights he can beat Micky Sh*t you guys want to move him faster than he wants to move himself he has the biggest advantage going for him which is he didn't start as a pro at 30 like Rigo so why rush him give him a couple years of acclimating with decent opposition before you throw him in there with top guys. As great as you may be as an amateur you don't know how your chin,stamina rationing, and many other things will work as a pro until you face decent competition that applies to everyone, and the importance of being used to that gets multiplied by 5 when facing a top level guy like some of those you mentioned. But to answer your question if he did that in 3 years his nick should be "Vasyl The Second Coming of Christ Lomachenko"

There is no way he would beat Rigo or Mikey. Mikey may even KO him I don't know if Vasyl beat Rigo, but in my opinion with 5 fights he can beat Micky

There is no way he would beat Rigo or Mikey. Mikey may even KO him

...............wait lol..........what? did i studder? floyd doesn't have a single win on his resume that can compare to the doniare win for rigondeaux. it's longevity, the undefeated record, the weight climbing that makes floyd a great fighter. he's been one of the best for well over a decade now. that's what makes him great. it's not any single great win. his resume is a collection of good / very good wins. that he's done it so long and over so many weights is what makes him an all time great, and greater fighter than donaire and rigoneaux combined. donaire in '13 is a great win with a capital G. you rank wins based on who was beaten and when. nonito doniare was a top 5 p4p fighter at his absolute zenith. he's going to be in the hall of fame, and rigondeaux fought himi at the absolute height of his powers. floyd has never done that. floyd has hall of famers on his resume, but none were in their primes. oscar was past it. shane was past it and coming off of a huge layoff. castillo isn't a hall of famer. corrales? not a hall of famer hatton? cmon. shouldn't be a hall of famer. genaro hernandez? great fighter, but not even close to donaire, and on the back nine. marquez might as well ahve been fighting an older brother. total mismatch, and only classified as anything else by fanboys. marquez went back to lightweight for his next fight and weighed 133 lbs. a comparison between their top wins isn't even close. rigondeaux's win over donaire is better than any single win on floyd's resume. that doesn't mean he's got a better resume, only that he's got the better single win.

And I never said it was exactly like beating a 122 lb. version of Floyd, but beating Rigo IS basically beating a 122 lb. version of Floyd. LOL.

rigondeaux has exactly one big name on his resume. prior to that fight he looked ordinary in spots, even visiting the canvas and getting hurt. remember the cordoba fight? marroquin? donaire is better than any single win on floyd's resume, but surely you aren't suggesting that he's got a better resume, or a resume on a similar tier with floyd mayweather. floyd mayweather is a genuine ATG. approximately top 50 of all time. rigondeaux is a top 5 p4p guy, but current p4p and historic ranking are not the same. a win over floyd mayweather is leagues beyond a win over guillermo rigondeaux. Let's be 100% honest. He hasn't won all those fights, so obviously, it's easy to say, "nah, that resumes not #1 P4P material." If he actually did beat all those guys, I GUARANTEE you, people would be clamoring for him to be #1 P4P. All technicalities aside, that's a godly resume to have.

And the reason why I put that resume on such high esteem, is because, each of those fighters have a different style. He wouldn't just be beating up a bunch of name fighters with the same tailor made style for him. Rigo, just by himself, is like beating the 122 lb. version of Floyd. You add those other guys, and it's a hands down #1 P4P resume. rigondeaux has exactly one big name on his resume. prior to that fight he looked ordinary in spots, even visiting the canvas and getting hurt. remember the cordoba fight? marroquin? donaire is better than any single win on floyd's resume, but surely you aren't suggesting that he's got a better resume, or a resume on a similar tier with floyd mayweather. floyd mayweather is a genuine ATG. approximately top 50 of all time. rigondeaux is a top 5 p4p guy, but current p4p and historic ranking are not the same. a win over floyd mayweather is leagues beyond a win over guillermo rigondeaux.

And the reason why I put that resume on such high esteem, is because, each of those fighters have a different style. He wouldn't just be beating up a bunch of name fighters with the same tailor made style for him. Rigo, just by himself, is like beating the 122 lb. version of Floyd. You add those other guys, and it's a hands down #1 P4P resume.

it depends who is still boxing at that stage. andre ward will still be here. if he's still around and fighting twice a year i can't see lomachenko surpassing him on the list with only three year's worth of work. floyd will probably be retired. bradley's got a lofty ranking right now, but i don't expect him to stay there forever. his style was bad for an aging marquez, who he caught off of a KO victory over a guy who completely handled bradley. he's fortunate to be where he is. the TS implies a lomo victory over rigondeaux, who is top 5 p4p right now. martinez will be retired. manny will be retired. marquez, retired. will wladimir still be fighting? if he is, i cannot see him losing. Did you see the names OP mentioned? That's a godly resume, right there. OK, not "easily" #1, but I bet 80% of boxing voters would definitely have him #1.

You just a hater cuz, see me with my support of broner and BOOM the female inside of you cant keep your feelings in check. Thats why your post is nothing relevant to anything in this thread other then you expressing your hatred for me and broner. http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/000/507/694/SERENAHatersGonnaHate_original.gif Hater on. says the guy who sticks his fingers in his ears and calls people haters before posting a childish gif.

Easily, #1 P4P. Come at me bros. :boxing: it depends who is still boxing at that stage. andre ward will still be here. if he's still around and fighting twice a year i can't see lomachenko surpassing him on the list with only three year's worth of work. floyd will probably be retired. bradley's got a lofty ranking right now, but i don't expect him to stay there forever. his style was bad for an aging marquez, who he caught off of a KO victory over a guy who completely handled bradley. he's fortunate to be where he is. the TS implies a lomo victory over rigondeaux, who is top 5 p4p right now. martinez will be retired. manny will be retired. marquez, retired. will wladimir still be fighting? if he is, i cannot see him losing.

Easily, #1 P4P. Come at me bros. :boxing:

stop reading right there, and here is the problem you cant comprehend what you read. Where did I say I saw people debut better then lomo? never did, all I said was he failed to delivery on the hype IMO. His opponent was tagging him quite easily but like I said he will most likely be great, I can see the talent no doubt. you stopped reading because you realized that i am very clearly qualified to give you an education on the subject, and you don't want to know. i read and write quite well. it's obvious to anybody who reads my posts. the following line of inquiry was necessary for understanding the post, and qualifying the previous question (the only one you actually read.) you won't read it, doe. if you want to learn about boxing, i am somebody who can teach you. get to know me.

stop reading right there, and here is the problem you cant comprehend what you read. Where did I say I saw people debut better then lomo? never did, all I said was he failed to delivery on the hype IMO. His opponent was tagging him quite easily but like I said he will most likely be great, I can see the talent no doubt. In my opinion, you're dumb as ****. No wonder no one likes Broner, with his attitude + his retard **** fans like you.

damn so much hate, I wonder why? who has not seen pro debut? lol they debut practically every weekend. on solo boxeo, golden boy live, top rank undercard live stream, obama has a ton of them available. You just a hater, and mad cause I didn't fuc.king nut hug lomo. Will he be great? most likely but right now he did what he was supposed to do and that was it. We shall see how he fairs against salido. litmus test: you watch fighter's debut constantly, huh new alt? they look better than lomachenko did? do they even look close? they fight guys on the tier that lomachenko fought in his debut? they operated on a similar level to lomachenko? you either A: have never seen a debuting fighter (almost surely the case.) B: have seen debuting fighters but don't know what the hell your're looking at, and aren't in a position to evaluate talent and progression. C: have never seen a debuting figther, and don't know what the f#Ck you're looking at when it comes to any boxer, world level or debuting. at any rate, when you see a fighter look spectacular in the biggest pro debut in several years, and tell me he "didn't look spectacular" you're doing something wrong. that was his f#cking pro debut. he was in there with a guy with 25 wins who had never been stopped. hello? do you even watch boxing? my money is on you not knowing what the hell you're looking at in addition to never watching a pro debut before. if you go to boxing matches you see fighters who are at the begginning of their careers who never amount to anything. they can hardly fight. lomo looks like he's been in a ring for his entire life, winning almost always. he has power at the weight (Stopped a 25-30 fight pro who had never been stopped,) variety, speed, composure well beyond his years. again, that was his first day on the job. some people are f#cking retarded, and i shouldn't waste my time talking to them and their alts.