Canelo-Cotto or Cotto-Canelo, WHO'S THE B-SIDE?

whoever gets paid less is the b-side and in this case it's canelo.

canelo is the B side, cotto is still the #3 guy behind floyd and pac.. just cause canelo sold 10$ tickets not people think hes the cash cow lol

"population pool" perhaps or maybe has everything to do with this??? Separate canelo from mexico and he is not anywhere near cotto's league in terms of drawing power... you cant separate canelo from mexico, and mexicans buy more ppvs than puerto ricans by far, so sorry but like it or not canelo has bigger draw thanks to the mexicans...

"population pool" perhaps or maybe has everything to do with this??? Separate canelo from mexico and he is not anywhere near cotto's league in terms of drawing power...

I never said he definitely isn't as popular. I'm asking if people are sure he's still 2.2 million PPVs alongside Floyd Mayweather popular. So much of Alvarez's hype was built up over 2 years for the specific purpose of being a boogeyman for Floyd to fight. With the loss, and the way he lost especially, maybe that popularity takes a noticeable dip so that Cotto would be the bigger draw again. It's a legitimate question. I'm with you he's not doing great numbers without the likes of Martinez/Cotto.And the MATTYSE/GARCIA fight pushed the issue of helping the event also. Canelo needs to drop to free showtime and demonstrate he can do something. 3 ppvs are far fetched...2 Mayweather fights, 2 PAC fights, 1 Cotto ppv, Bradley, good luck with Canelo and his 3 ppvs :lol1:

Lolll sorry Canelo is on the B side. Why is he desperately trying to make a fight with Cotto? Canelo is a HUGE OMG star right? Cotto/Trout drawed 1.5 million the best on Showtime Canelo/Trout did 1mil flat a big ass gap difference in viewers and that's with Trout coming off a big win against Cotto. Now, why would Canelo go after the guy who got beat by the guy he beat? He needs Cotto to sell he's really not top ppv quality at this point.

To you and bojangles saying that Canelo is not as popular anymore, what are you basing this on? He hasn't even had a fight after Mayweather, and already "Luster has been lost", "Canelo lost so now he won't get same support" I mean this is based on what exactly? Was there a Canelo fight after the Floyd loss that I missed and it bombed on the ratings? What are the basis for these claims? I suggest we wait for Canelo's next fight, maybe? See if he has lost support or if he's less popular now? See his ratings? IDK, that's if you guys want. If not then keep making false claims. I never said he definitely isn't as popular. I'm asking if people are sure he's still 2.2 million PPVs alongside Floyd Mayweather popular. So much of Alvarez's hype was built up over 2 years for the specific purpose of being a boogeyman for Floyd to fight. With the loss, and the way he lost especially, maybe that popularity takes a noticeable dip so that Cotto would be the bigger draw again. It's a legitimate question.

Cotto deserves the a side because he beat the great delvin rodriguez huh? Canelo has the bigger fanbase = more $$ cotto can bring in:bottle: We are not going off of their last fights. Cotto is the more established fighter, career wise, between the two. Other than Trout, whos Canelo fought thats worth mentioning? Who has sold more PPVs? Who has the bigger numbers on HBO or ShowTime? This is a no brainer.

Sergio was way more established than Chavez Jr...why wasn't he the A-side? Two reasons. Because of the Chavez Sr legacy and because Sergio isnt well known to a casual boxing fan, he's more established to us hardcore fans.

Cotto right now. Unless he gets a belt. Canelo just sold the highest grossing ppv of all time.

To you and bojangles saying that Canelo is not as popular anymore, what are you basing this on? He hasn't even had a fight after Mayweather, and already "Luster has been lost", "Canelo lost so now he won't get same support" I mean this is based on what exactly? Was there a Canelo fight after the Floyd loss that I missed and it bombed on the ratings? What are the basis for these claims? I suggest we wait for Canelo's next fight, maybe? See if he has lost support or if he's less popular now? See his ratings? IDK, that's if you guys want. If not then keep making false claims. Who cares if Canelo still has a good following. The names should be placed on whos more deserving out of the two, which is a no brainer in Cotto. Cotto is the bigger name and more established.

Let me get this straight. Canelo only has one good win in his entire career but yet people say he gets the A side over an established Miguel Cotto? You people must be mentally slow or mexican.

it should be 50/50 down the line if they fought btw.. Cotto has the better career and is well known. but Canelo is well known and can bring a ****load of fans in too. They both can. And there both known as a entertaining fighters so everyone will lavish at this match up imo. And to the people saying Canelos popularity is unknown is being ignorant to known history... DLH, Trinidad, Mosley, etc have all lost before, in their primes too and still put butts in the seats their next fights. The proof is in history. Canelo will still be popular, Cotto has, Pacquiao has and will continue to be so that statement is moot.. You have PR vs Mex side to sell to this aswell, You have can Canelo beat a new Cotto side, Can Canelo come back from Mayweather lose side, Two exciting fighters side, so much that can sell this fight.

So Canelo is the "B-side" to a guy who got his ass handed to him by a nobody at the time, Austin Trout, and beat a bum ass fringe ESPN fighter, Delvin Rodriguez? The logic in here f*cking amazing..... So are you saying Cotto should be the "B-side" to a guy who made an entire career out of fighting bum ass fringe ESPN fighters, and only cause he had the less crappy performance that night, got a questionable decision against Trout ? As long as we're bringing up performances against common opponents, keep in mind Canelo's performance against Floyd made Guerrero look like a world beater, while Cotto gave Mayweather his best fight since DLH. See? it works both ways. Truth is its hard to gauge where Canelo's popularity is right now. He may still be quite popular, but the truth is "The One" had everything going for it: p4p #1 cashcow vs mexican kid groomed for years for that fight, took place on a mexican holiday, and had a strong undercard. Take all that away and then add the fact that he lost and looked horrible in doing so, and you could have anything between a moderate and a huge drop in marketability. The logical thing to do would be to put him against a mid tier contender and see how the ratings go.

I think Canelo is the B side. If this fight happens this fight should be a 50/50 split.

To you and bojangles saying that Canelo is not as popular anymore, what are you basing this on? He hasn't even had a fight after Mayweather, and already "Luster has been lost", "Canelo lost so now he won't get same support" I mean this is based on what exactly? Was there a Canelo fight after the Floyd loss that I missed and it bombed on the ratings? What are the basis for these claims? I suggest we wait for Canelo's next fight, maybe? See if he has lost support or if he's less popular now? See his ratings? IDK, that's if you guys want. If not then keep making false claims. Don't get me wrong. He's still a big cash cow, but the Mayweather fight did so well because it caught the imagination and hopes of the Mexican crowd. But it was a once in a lifetime thing. He had one chance. He lost though, so that feeling can't be replicated anymore. Do you think that if both Canelo and Cotto had a rematch with Mayweather, Canelo-Mayweather II would outsell Cotto-Mayweather II? I don't.

So Canelo is the "B-side" to a guy who got his ass handed to him by a nobody at the time, Austin Trout, and beat a bum ass fringe ESPN fighter, Delvin Rodriguez? The logic in here f*cking amazing..... The logic is who puts butts in seats. And, while its close, Cotto is the only one of the two to headline a meaty PPV and has the track longer record of drawing fans. Thing is this fight sells itself anyway so its not like it would even be a one-sided promotion. Lots of ways to market this fight to two big fan bases.

Yea, basically. It continues that Canelo and his handlers have asked Richard Schaefer to secure either Martinez or Cotto. Says nothing about ultimatums to Cotto or Martinez, or Canelo giving orders to them. You're right, thanks for reiterating. I sort of bypassed that line, not going to lie. Who do you have in that fight btw? I'm slightly inclined to side with Cotto, I don't know that Canelo's low offensive output will be enough to tame the Puerto Rican's aggression. Cotto's not impossible to find either which is why I see a close fight.

Cotto had the highest Showtime ratings for last year and has had the highest HBO ratings for this year. And both times were with unknown opponents. Mayweather-Alvarez did well because it was a fresh face, but that luster has been lost. To you and bojangles saying that Canelo is not as popular anymore, what are you basing this on? He hasn't even had a fight after Mayweather, and already "Luster has been lost", "Canelo lost so now he won't get same support" I mean this is based on what exactly? Was there a Canelo fight after the Floyd loss that I missed and it bombed on the ratings? What are the basis for these claims? I suggest we wait for Canelo's next fight, maybe? See if he has lost support or if he's less popular now? See his ratings? IDK, that's if you guys want. If not then keep making false claims.

Yea, basically. Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (42-1-1 30 KOs) has given the marching orders to Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer. It continues that Canelo and his handlers have asked Richard Schaefer to secure either Martinez or Cotto. Says nothing about ultimatums to Cotto or Martinez, or Canelo giving orders to them.