Im just not sold on this kid but despite this I still predicted a 6/7 round stoppage yesterday and the Ukranian is 10 years older, but also struggled against a past prime hatton that was also not fought in 3 and a half years, and was heavily on drugs and depressed.
He also lost to paulie whom I think is a b level fighter.
Kell Brook does the basics very well, if he has a c or even a wek b level opponent, he puts his punches togather well, and they have good bite on them.
BUt he is not world elite. his footwork is average for a lighter weight class, and he has poor Head movement for a lighter weigh class.
Skysports(whch is so biased to the British fighters is unreal) showed the top ten, with Kell ranked tenth, and I struggled to see him beating at least 80 percent of those guys. I think he needs another trainer as hes about as Elusive as the Sun in Ibiza.
Khan definitely sparks him out within 6 rounds.
Senchenko being glass chinned because he got stopped on cuts :lol1: that was gold!
With that guy, if you're not American, you're open to any and all criticism.
lol, are u implying that the only fighters i dont criticize are america. or are u implying i criticize every fighter that is not american? im confused. while neither is the case...i did criticize senchenko. and why not? hes not particularly good. i didnt realy criticize brook tho thats the funny thing. i thought the win was meh but he did what he had to do. ive never been high on him but there was nothing to complain about from him yesterday. doesnt mean i think a senchenko means much. it doesnt. could i have worded my criticisms differently? sure. but he still got busted up n stopped by paulie...thats a major accomplishment. quite hard to do. with that said there arent many british fighters i do like. the only truly elite fighter from the uk is froch and ive been quite vocal in my support of him while at the same time ive panned more than my share of american fighters. its not my fault the uk and us have somewhat of a onesided rivalry. lol. everyone knows the real rivalry is us/mexico.
how does he not, hes moe dominant than all of the guys he listed, show me scientifically that's wladimir is not the most dominant fighter ever
Show me scientific evidence that he's an A level hw. Or that he's the most dominant fighter ever. You are the one claiming such bs for a guy that has 3 KO losses on his resume. He doesn't even throw bodyshots and his best weapon is his overhand clinch. B level in the grand scheme of things.
im not saying hes rubbish, but hes clearly top euro level and that's where it stops.
s I mentioned he does the basics very very well, and looks good against weaker opposition, and I would love him to destroy broner.
But im just being honest, the Ukranian struggled against a not even pass prime version of Hatton. He struggled against a drugged up, ring rust, depressed Hatton that was over 4 years past his prime. The other loss is paulie whom couldn't knock out a fly and isn't world elite level.
Kell brook for a lighter weight class doesn't have very good defensive skills, I would say carl froch is better defensively then kell.
Anyone with any slickness decions him, and anyone with a chin and cardio will stop him late.
Senchenko was beating Hatton before KO'ing him, that's not struggling. He's not an elite fighter but he's a former world champ who had one loss, a good KO% and had never been down...Brook rocked him several times, dropped him twice and stopped him all in less than 4 rounds. It was a good performance.
Paulie is world level, Berto is world level, Maidana is world level....Brook certainly is.
That was so stupid.
Senchenko had never been down before yesterday, Brook is just a big WW puncher. It's as simple as that.
I know.
I don't know what people are looking at. You can look at Brook's jab when it lands and how it snaps his opponents head back that he is a very solid puncher and if lands cleanly too many times he is going to stop people at any level. It is that simple.
Wladimir doesn't get close to those guys in skill levels. Huggybear is a b level heavy.
how does he not, hes moe dominant than all of the guys he listed, show me scientifically that's wladimir is not the most dominant fighter ever
Exactly, the fighters with weak chins are Khan, Price, and RJJ etc but thats how things work in boxing you can't have everything. I bet more than half the people who bad mouth chins have weaker ones than Khan.
It's still funny people claiming Khan has a weak chin. He took a helluva beating in some rounds against Maidana but never went down. Besides the 4th round kd vs Diaz, he stayed on his feet there. Was stopped on his feet vs Garcia.
Khan can take a punch. He just has bad recovering skills. And his defense is leaky as hell.
Exactly, the fighters with weak chins are Khan, Price, and RJJ etc but thats how things work in boxing you can't have everything. I bet more than half the people who bad mouth chins have weaker ones than Khan.
It's still funny people claiming Khan has a weak chin. He took a helluva beating in some rounds against Maidana but never went down. Besides the 4th round kd vs Diaz, he stayed on his feet there. Was stopped on his feet vs Garcia.
Khan can take a punch. He just has bad recovering skills. And his defense is leaky as hell.
Yeah, I find it embarrassing to be honest when people do that.
Someone said Senchenko was glass chinned yesterday because he got stopped on cuts previously.
It was not good day for Boxingscene members last night.
Lol a guy who gets stopped by Paulie is glass jawed. Stupid thing to ask.
Brook didnt not look impressive at all
forget the KO, he beat some old glass jaw basic boxer
He was shaken at one point, I think Devon would floor Kell, he needs to sort out his defence
His power will not threaten Devon
Yeah, I find it embarrassing to be honest when people do that.
Someone said Senchenko was glass chinned yesterday because he got stopped on cuts previously.
That was so stupid.
Senchenko had never been down before yesterday, Brook is just a big WW puncher. It's as simple as that.
Exactly, the fighters with weak chins are Khan, Price, and RJJ etc but thats how things work in boxing you can't have everything. I bet more than half the people who bad mouth chins have weaker ones than Khan.
I can't stand it when people claim he has a glass chin, he isn't the next big thing but he is definitely not glass jawed british level hype. It takes some big nuts to stand in a ring with a guy of 65% KO ratio and never been stopped via a real punch (cuts aren't included). Yeah he isn't exactly no GGG, but not many of the boxers in the world are. I hope he does well, he recovered instantly from yesterdays little scare, however when a fighter like Maidana hits him I don't think his recovery rate will be as efficient as last night, that's boxing and you will see the same with the likes of Wilder and so on.
Unless you go into that ring on a amateur basis or more please don't rant about a fighters chin being made of glass, you probably wouldn't 2 minutes with a journeyman let alone top domestic fighters.
Yeah, I find it embarrassing to be honest when people do that.
Someone said Senchenko was glass chinned yesterday because he got stopped on cuts previously.
I can't stand it when people claim he has a glass chin, he isn't the next big thing but he is definitely not glass jawed british level hype. It takes some big nuts to stand in a ring with a guy of 65% KO ratio and never been stopped via a real punch (cuts aren't included). Yeah he isn't exactly no GGG, but not many of the boxers in the world are. I hope he does well, he recovered instantly from yesterdays little scare, however when a fighter like Maidana hits him I don't think his recovery rate will be as efficient as last night, that's boxing and you will see the same with the likes of Wilder and so on.
Unless you go into that ring on a amateur basis or more please don't rant about a fighters chin being made of glass, you probably wouldn't 2 minutes with a journeyman let alone top domestic fighters.
Some reaction to Kell's fight has been plain retarded.
How is he British level? What British domestic fighter would Kell not spark out?
Is he European Level? What European level Welter would Kell not comfortably beat?
Is he world level? Well yes, he has to be by definition doesn't he? Because he is likely only to lose fights at that level.
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lmao horrible list of fighters, no wladimir made that list horrible. Bernard Hopkins world level???you must be kidding....
Now you're gonna cry about Wlad not making the list? At least it's not as funny as you saying Khan KOs Brook. Just like he did Diaz right?
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lmao horrible list of fighters, no wladimir made that list horrible. Bernard Hopkins world level???you must be kidding....
Wladimir doesn't get close to those guys in skill levels. Huggybear is a b level heavy.
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lmao horrible list of fighters, no wladimir made that list horrible. Bernard Hopkins world level???you must be kidding....
He had him down with vicious combos twice and the guy didn't want to continue. I love how people big up Porter or Thurman but Kell has beaten fighters than they have!
It's hilarious. He did a demolition job yesterday. He was momentarily stunned by a former world champion with only one loss on the record and a good KO ratio - all of a sudden he's got a glass chin and is British level at best.
The same people turn around and say Devon Alexander is "slick". You people are ridiculous.