Hold on...Marquez refused pac a rematch because his win was decisive

Tip for the day, don't compare a SD loss to getting knocked the fuck out. I suggest you go watch the fight, just because a judge scores the fight wrong does not make the win decisive look, it is simple, marquez said his win was decisive, bradley's win to the world was also the same I love to expose hypocrisy lad, thats all I am doing

Sorry OP a SD is not a decisive win. The only way you can be excused for saying this is if you didn't watch the fight....you didnt right? If you did all i have to say is I hate all you fact ignoring fan boys. Marquez is a prima dona and would never admit defeat he is a legend of boxing but has always been a bit of a cunty fk.

Part of the reason Marquez is a champion is because he refuses to admit when he's bested. Well said. Of such traits ATGs are made.

But is now calling for a rematch with Bradley DESPITE HIS LOSS being decisive? does anyone not see the hypocrisy here? Time to treat marquez like he has treated others Tip for the day, don't compare a SD loss to getting knocked the fuck out.

LOL, ts get this, Marquez ko'd Pacman and loss to Bradley. That's not the same, at all.

But is now calling for a rematch with Bradley DESPITE HIS LOSS being decisive? does anyone not see the hypocrisy here? Time to treat marquez like he has treated others The only hypocrisy is you suggesting a KO loss is the same as close and debatable split decision.

Leverage goes to the fighter who brings in the most money. In this case, it is Pacquiao who is the PPV attraction over JMM. After the first Ward/Gatti fight, Gatti came in to the second fight as the challenger and the loser of their first fight. Gatti was clearly the attraction so he deserves the upper hand in negotiations. JMM will not make more money fighting Bradley or any other fighter than he would against Pacquiao or Mayweather. Now if JMM does not care about $$$ and decides he is not fighting Pacquiao a 5th time, that is his choice. However, to go in to negotiations for 5th fight and demanding the lion's share is a bit overzealous. JMM''s management should know that and "bow down" accordingly unless they are truly not interested in a 5th fight. Just my $0.02. Flame suite on! That's a respectable opinion but your overlooking the fact that Marquez doesn't have to bow down since he clearly doesn't want a fifth fight. It's Pacquiao and his fans who want the fifth fight so they have to make him an offer he can't refuse. Again he finally got the victory he's been looking for so long he's not giving up that feeling chunk change while Pacquiao makes 25 million. He might be the ppv attraction but unless he fights Mayweather no fight will be as successful in ppv sales as a fifth fight.

you think it was worse in the first one? i mean look marquez's face in both fights, imo the one in the fourth was a lot worse seeing as how they couldnt stop the blood from gushing out. and how was the first fight not close? wasn't it a draw lol? im not trying to take anything away from jmm but the reason i say that manny was figuring jmm out is based off how manny almost doubled jmm's punches. idk what to tell you abt the 50 split, whether or not manny needs to redeem himself is not relevant to me manny is a just a bigger ppv attraction and that's all it boils down to I'm saying it wasn't close at the time he suffered the injury which was during round 1, not the fight in general. How is Manny redeeming himself not relevant? Marquez has the only decisive victory in the series

Yeah it was worse in the first fight. At the point he suffered the broken nose he had been down 3 times and had lost that round 10-6, how was that really close? In the four fight he was down by 1 or 2 rounds on the cards. He might be the better ppv attraction but it takes two fighter to make the fight and being as how jmm was the one that knocked Pacquiao out he had all the leverage. He's the one that needs to redeem himself not Marquez. Leverage goes to the fighter who brings in the most money. In this case, it is Pacquiao who is the PPV attraction over JMM. After the first Ward/Gatti fight, Gatti came in to the second fight as the challenger and the loser of their first fight. Gatti was clearly the attraction so he deserves the upper hand in negotiations. JMM will not make more money fighting Bradley or any other fighter than he would against Pacquiao or Mayweather. Now if JMM does not care about $$$ and decides he is not fighting Pacquiao a 5th time, that is his choice. However, to go in to negotiations for 5th fight and demanding the lion's share is a bit overzealous. JMM''s management should know that and "bow down" accordingly unless they are truly not interested in a 5th fight. Just my $0.02. Flame suite on!

Yeah it was worse in the first fight. At the point he suffered the broken nose he had been down 3 times and had lost that round 10-6, how was that really close? In the four fight he was down by 1 or 2 rounds on the cards. He might be the better ppv attraction but it takes two fighter to make the fight and being as how jmm was the one that knocked Pacquiao out he had all the leverage. He's the one that needs to redeem himself not Marquez. you think it was worse in the first one? i mean look marquez's face in both fights, imo the one in the fourth was a lot worse seeing as how they couldnt stop the blood from gushing out. and how was the first fight not close? wasn't it a draw lol? im not trying to take anything away from jmm but the reason i say that manny was figuring jmm out is based off how manny almost doubled jmm's punches. idk what to tell you abt the 50 split, whether or not manny needs to redeem himself is not relevant to me manny is a just a bigger ppv attraction and that's all it boils down to

The KO was more Manny losing focus for a few seconds and getting sloppy at the end of the round rather than JMM's perfect timing like everyone is claiming. Truth is, another two rounds and JMM would have started looking as puffed up as Margarito was and whole lot bloodier. The problem I have is the "if's"...we can create assumptions, speculate imaginary scenarios, etc until we are blue in the face, but what happened imo was Pac did his pattern in that fight of feinting and then stuttering his feet before walking in to a well timed punch-it's really as simple as that. Pac went in for what he thought was the kill, but got ko'd. After the first time he was dropped, I knew he would get dropped again. I have seen it happen so many times. That sorta kd is a brain rattler, and no matter how well you are doing after that-it is always probable that you will get hurt again with the next big shot.

What Mayweather did was a white wash. Bradley won clear and decisive. You can win a close fight, clear and decisive. That's right, Bradley could have stepped on the gas pedal at anytime and blitzed Marquez, he almost took it a little too safe and almost lost on points, doesn't mean Tim didn't have an easy time with the whiner.

What you are not comprehending is that JMM had figured out a habit of Manny's in that fight-he would feint as he was coming in and caught him coming in....you seem to make it sound like it was a one sided fight, when in reality it was closer than that. Pac was up by 1 point before getting sparked. If that was just a kd, then JMM would have been up and depending on how bad Pac would have been hurt had he been able to get up, it is still possible Pac could have been dropped again, tko'd or even sparked....smh The KO was more Manny losing focus for a few seconds and getting sloppy at the end of the round rather than JMM's perfect timing like everyone is claiming. Truth is, another two rounds and JMM would have started looking as puffed up as Margarito was and whole lot bloodier.

its a different scenario. the first fight was really close. in this past fight, the cut was a lot worse, and manny was beating him up. leading up to the ko, manny figured him out. and i dont think he has the leverage, seeing as how in terms of business manny is still a better ppv attraction Yeah it was worse in the first fight. At the point he suffered the broken nose he had been down 3 times and had lost that round 10-6, how was that really close? In the four fight he was down by 1 or 2 rounds on the cards. He might be the better ppv attraction but it takes two fighter to make the fight and being as how jmm was the one that knocked Pacquiao out he had all the leverage. He's the one that needs to redeem himself not Marquez.

Bradley fought a minimalist fight and still won, if there is a rematch JMM gets embarrassed. I won a ton of cash on Bradley because everyone knows JMM can only fight guys that come to him, he's one dimensional as they come.

its a different scenario. the first fight was really close. in this past fight, the cut was a lot worse, and manny was beating him up. leading up to the ko, manny figured him out. and i dont think he has the leverage, seeing as how in terms of business manny is still a better ppv attraction What you are not comprehending is that JMM had figured out a habit of Manny's in that fight-he would feint as he was coming in and caught him coming in....you seem to make it sound like it was a one sided fight, when in reality it was closer than that. Pac was up by 1 point before getting sparked. If that was just a kd, then JMM would have been up and depending on how bad Pac would have been hurt had he been able to get up, it is still possible Pac could have been dropped again, tko'd or even sparked....smh

He did suffer a broken nose in round 1 of the 1st fight and we know what followed so you can't just assume he was going to get stopped based on that. Whether he deserves it or not he had all the leverage and all Pacquiao's side had to do was put their Ego aside and agree to the terms and the fight was on. its a different scenario. the first fight was really close. in this past fight, the cut was a lot worse, and manny was beating him up. leading up to the ko, manny figured him out. and i dont think he has the leverage, seeing as how in terms of business manny is still a better ppv attraction

i agree, they both wanted to ko each other. and your right marquez is great at keeping composure when he gets hurt. but has he ever been cut like that? blood was gushing out his nose, he even said he had problems breathing. that **** was gunna get stopped. and you are probably going to disagree but marquez doesn't deserve 50% He did suffer a broken nose in round 1 of the 1st fight and we know what followed so you can't just assume he was going to get stopped based on that. Whether he deserves it or not he had all the leverage and all Pacquiao's side had to do was put their Ego aside and agree to the terms and the fight was on.

Clear and decisive was mayweather did. Bradley beat him in a close fight. What Mayweather did was a white wash. Bradley won clear and decisive. You can win a close fight, clear and decisive.

Pac beat JMM decisively yet gave rematches to him. JMM just wanted rematch after rematch until he got a win and Pac obliged being the true champ he is. Even if you play the lottery enough you might get lucky. So the deal was Pac was going to give JMM enough chances until he won the lottery. Pure fvcking humour. Nothing was decisive about any of those fights apart from controversy until the final fight. Most people thought JMM won the 3rd fight (even the 2nd fight) and the crowd boo'd the hell out of Pac and threw water bottles at the ring. How many damn fights do we need to see between them???? Isn't a final decisive victory enough? After all, that is what they were fighting for and JMM got that decisive victory with Pac dropped hard in the 3rd and finally ko'd for several minutes a few rounds later.