After Bradley's big win,JMM loss,Rigo's win over Donaire and Danny Garcia's huge win...what is your new top 10 ?
My new Top 10:
1 The Money Man
2 Andre Ward
3 Sergio Martinez
4 Tim Bradley
5 Vlad KO
6 Manny
7 Danny Garcia
8 Carl Froch
9 JMM
10 Canelo Alvarez
On the Cusp :
11 GGG
12 Vitali
13 Adrian Broner
14 The Machine Matthyse
15 Mikey Garcia
16 Donaire
17 Cotto
18 Keith Thurman
19 Leo Santa Cruz
20 Devon Alexander
"One win or one loss does not make a fighter", me.:boxing::boxing::boxing:
How the **** is manny at 6 for back to back losses and a win over rios. Manny is not in the top ten at all
Then you put him above jmm who was ranked in front manny, and then jmm losses to the same guy manny lost too, but some how that equates manny over jmm
Wtf kinda logic is that
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1.money
2.ward
3.Tim
4.serg
5.wlad
6.jmm
7.rigo
8.danny
9.froch
10. ten is tough stevenson,ggg, thurman, maybe donaire who was at 3
Sure Pac is 2-1-1 vs JMM.His body of work is way better thasn JMM's as well and I am a big JMM fan.
Canelo is 22 has some very big wins and will climb the P4P ladder.:boxing::boxing::boxing:
Alvarez has one good win..I would not describe it as big,Alvarez maybe will be on the P4P list someday and have the merit to be there..As it stands now tho,nah he does not belong on the list..
;13870207']Where's Rigo?
That whoopin he put on Donaire was amazing.
Really ??? A guy with 12 wins ???
Let's see his body of work first before we judge him.
"One win and one loss does not make a fighter !!! "
I hate to do this because I love watching JMM fight but ...he is 5-3 in the last 3 years. He was beaten by Pac. Out-classed by May...and lost 8-4 rounds to Bradley.He is HOF fighter and one om personal favorites but facts are facts.
I call 'em as I see 'em.
P4P lists should be a combination of:
Who ya fought? ...total body of work
Who ya beat ?.....your competition
Potential vs Actaullly Dominating a weight class or 2?
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Juan loses a close fight and gets dropped to#9??
Manny gets brutally ko'd and hasn't won an official fight since 2011 and is #6?
Canelo gets clowned and embarrased and is somehow #10?
Sure Pac is 2-1-1 vs JMM.His body of work is way better thasn JMM's as well and I am a big JMM fan.
Canelo is 22 has some very big wins and will climb the P4P ladder.:boxing::boxing::boxing:
Juan loses a close fight and gets dropped to#9??
Manny gets brutally ko'd and hasn't won an official fight since 2011 and is #6?
Canelo gets clowned and embarrased and is somehow #10?
Stole my thoughts...
Juan loses a close fight and gets dropped to#9??
Manny gets brutally ko'd and hasn't won an official fight since 2011 and is #6?
Canelo gets clowned and embarrased and is somehow #10?
Beating Donaire is more impressive than anyone Canelo has beaten, by a mile. To count Cintron, Little Jose, Old Shane, etc as "big" wins is suspect.
Canelo just doesnt belong here.
For me :
It's a body of work for top 10 P4P.
Pac has some great wins and is 2-1 vs JMM overall.
Wilder is a beast and coming along nicely. My only knock on him is his competition so far as been average at best.
Canelo has some big wins: Mosely,Cintron,Trout,Gomez and Lopez. I know that GBP has protected him and some on list were on downside of careers but he has fought them and beat them. Trout is borderline top 20 himself.
And then the case of Rigo...Rigo has 1 excellent win and ....well.
I understand that there are about 25-26 Rigo fans out there..lol...but he has one excellent win in 12 fights.
Maybe down the road that porcelain chin will hold up against some good fighters,we'll see. He has fought 7 journeyman to start his career then 2 C/C+ level fighters.Kennedy and Maroquin were in essance coming of loses when they fought Rigo. Maroquin lost to a decent jouneyman the year before. Kennedy was coming off a draw and a loss in which he looked awful in both(yes, I saw both fights). Rigo surprised me and the boxing world by easily beating Donaire...but its one fight.Let's hold off on him for 2-3 fights.
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That list is worse than the "Rings" which is the worst insult any list could have btw.
Of course pac should be that high, 1 loss in over 10 years were he was the best in the world.
For me :
It's a body of work for top 10 P4P.
Pac has some great wins and is 2-1 vs JMM overall.
Wilder is a beast and coming along nicely. My only knock on him is his competition so far as been average at best.
Canelo has some big wins: Mosely,Cintron,Trout,Gomez and Lopez. I know that GBP has protected him and some on list were on downside of careers but he has fought them and beat them. Trout is borderline top 20 himself.
And then the case of Rigo...Rigo has 1 excellent win and ....well.
I understand that there are about 25-26 Rigo fans out there..lol...but he has one excellent win in 12 fights.
Maybe down the road that porcelain chin will hold up against some good fighters,we'll see. He has fought 7 journeyman to start his career then 2 C/C+ level fighters.Kennedy and Maroquin were in essance coming of loses when they fought Rigo. Maroquin lost to a decent jouneyman the year before. Kennedy was coming off a draw and a loss in which he looked awful in both(yes, I saw both fights). Rigo surprised me and the boxing world by easily beating Donaire...but its one fight.Let's hold off on him for 2-3 fights.
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