Manny Pacquiao ' I will beat Floyd Mayweather Jr after I beat Brandon

Doesn't sound like a "guilty or scared camp". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HomjRVhfoPg Play anything on the other side thou...

I have never thought that Manny was ever scared or trying to avoid a Floyd fight. In the other hand I really think Arum was afraid of losing his cash cow and Freddie in the beginning was a little timid to put him in with Floyd. They both knew Manny did not have a chance in hell of beating Floyd. Roach may think differently now but Arum does not. Hence, no fight.

Pacman needs to demand VADA testing for Floyd to level the playing field. :haha: This right here.... Although I think it may kill any chance of a fight (if there ever really was one) if Mayweather refuses.

Remember first fight talks..... manny wanted 50/50 Gloves Size Weight Floyd Agreed to everything When Floyd asked for the Random Blood test manny walked away...... I can remember alot of same fans saying Floyd is Ducking him because he knew Manny was afraid of needles and it weakens him Now manny is doing the VADA with Rios..:wave:(Irony) --- I'm sure it was well reported by some of the Best Journalist and Sports news media... ----- I can clearly remember after that broke down Floyd said he will never agree to a 50/50 deal with pac again!!!! ---- who gives a sh1t, just make the ****ing fight. why do you flowmos always say you had your chance, why you never wanted to see the fight? As a boxing fan I only care about fights, you flowmos are weirdos. protecting your fighter for some reason just let them fight, the flowmos are an interesting group, they are the only fans who never beg their fighter to fight guys, normal boxing fans will say please fight this guy! and when the fighter does they go hell yeah!!!! thats a bad azz fight. flowmos act like they are the manager of floyd or something more interested in the business aspect.

Pacman needs to demand VADA testing for Floyd to level the playing field.

Remember first fight talks..... manny wanted 50/50 Gloves Size Weight Floyd Agreed to everything When Floyd asked for the Random Blood test manny walked away...... I can remember alot of same fans saying Floyd is Ducking him because he knew Manny was afraid of needles and it weakens him Now manny is doing the VADA with Rios..:wave:(Irony) --- I'm sure it was well reported by some of the Best Journalist and Sports news media... ----- I can clearly remember after that broke down Floyd said he will never agree to a 50/50 deal with pac again!!!! ---- manny agreed to random testing it was the cut off date that wasnt agree upon. check your source.

I put blame on both. But constantly changing terms, making insulting offer, even making unrealistic demands is not the ways to make the fight happen. And when did Floyd agree to anything Pac asked? Remember first fight talks..... manny wanted 50/50 Gloves Size Weight Floyd Agreed to everything When Floyd asked for the Random Blood test manny walked away...... I can remember alot of same fans saying Floyd is Ducking him because he knew Manny was afraid of needles and it weakens him Now manny is doing the VADA with Rios..:wave:(Irony) --- I'm sure it was well reported by some of the Best Journalist and Sports news media... ----- I can clearly remember after that broke down Floyd said he will never agree to a 50/50 deal with pac again!!!! ----

Shouldn't you be asking this about Floyd since everyone prefer to put everything on him. He did more than enough to make the fight happen, even giving PAC everything he asked for just to have PAC to walk again. The hate is deserved. I put blame on both. But constantly changing terms, making insulting offer, even making unrealistic demands is not the ways to make the fight happen. And when did Floyd agree to anything Pac asked?

I have never thought that Manny was ever scared or trying to avoid a Floyd fight. In the other hand I really think Arum was afraid of losing his cash cow and Freddie in the beggining was a little timid to put him in with Floyd.

Pointing out hypocricy does not mean you hate Pac or his fans. Holding manny accountable for his actions doesn't mean you hate him. But is there not hypocrisy from both side? And I agree Pac should be accountable for his action but without bending or misinterpreting his action. Also there's still a lot of sign of hate.

when manny is being asked about floyd and u can tell he's getting tired of hearing about floyd he just simply answer i want to fight him but what can i do if he doesnt wanna fight me. so if floyd is tired of hearing about manny why wouldnt he come out and say the things u mention instead dude just goes off topic lol.. If manny had agreed to the offers he'd have a valid point. Manny turns offers down then says floyd doesn't want to fight him. You believe manny. WHen JMM/cotto/tim turn down manny's offers to fight-you criticize them for not taking the best payday of their career or say their ducking or scared or whatever. How you and other pac fans can flip like this is nauseating. Everything is always the other guy's fault or its Bob is holding him prisoner.

im not " u guys", i never said jmm and cotto is scared. if floyd was getting tired because manny keeps turning his offer down then why wouldnt he say anything about it?? i have yet to hear floyd mention about manny is always turning my offer down thats why im acting like this in any of his raging interview. instead he goes off topic asking where was manny at, manny is on steriods, his head got bigger, he eats dogs, etc. also like i mention floyd recently went public about how nmanny is a has been and his career is over, to me thats still taking shots at manny when the question being aksed has nothing to do with what floyd thinks about manny and his career. dude floyd hasn't said anything like that in a long time. Its 2013 not 2010. why should floyd have to say it when we all know its true? Look evol, i cant make you admit manny's shortcomings and nor how his actions have contributed to the fight not getting made. You just wont do it. The bottom line is Manny is floyd's best b side. Because manny turned the fight down in 09 for no good reason, floyd seems to have decided he will make manny beg him for a fight and then pay him as little as possible to fight. Floyd is doing everything to manny that manny does to his b sides-low ball, make them join his promotional company, etc. so its either a) manny and floyd are both wrong or b) niether is wrong. you pick and let me know.

floyd foolishly tried to win the media war while also playing the villian role. SO if you want to criticize him for his response fine with me. He hasn't done that lately and he doesn't need to. There will always be a segment of the media that will never report the facts, they, like you, will blame floyd for everything. When he was playing the villian they could get away with it. But floyd isn't playing the villian anymore. His stus as the best fighter in the world and the face of the sport is solidified. He is getting much more friendlier press and he isn't responding to his critics in such a chilidish way. Floyd seems to have realized that manny did this to himself. Had he not tried to CW cotto again, he wouldn't have had to fight JMM 4 , not been KO'd, and maybe things would be different. Instead, his game backfired, cotto said no, manny got KTFO, and floyd whitewashed Canelo and made almost $90 mil. So now manny is calling him out again, expecting to get the same offer from 4 years ago-while simulutaneously trying to get JMM for a 5th fight without paying him what he wants. he hasnt done that lately??? he was just on shade 45 radio interview bashing manny lol.

exactly. before floyd would get frustrated and go HAM. Now, he's finally realized what the deal is. Manny wants the fight up until an offer is placed in front of him. He never accepts the offer because he knows his fans will not hold him accountable. When manny turns down floyd you and other posters blame the offer floyd made. WHen tim and JMM and cotto turn manny down you and manny fans say those guys are scared. SO its always the other guy and never manny. SO my guess is floyd just got tired of always hearing this kind of crap and didn't give manny or his fans anything to run with. He relied simply and accurately that manny has to come back from the KO. when manny is being asked about floyd and u can tell he's getting tired of hearing about floyd he just simply answer i want to fight him but what can i do if he doesnt wanna fight me. so if floyd is tired of hearing about manny why wouldnt he come out and say the things u mention instead dude just goes off topic lol..

and if that was the case then why wouldnt floyd said anything about manny is always turning my offer down?? instead he goes off topic and starts asking questions like where was manny at in 96, etc?? floyd foolishly tried to win the media war while also playing the villian role. SO if you want to criticize him for his response fine with me. He hasn't done that lately and he doesn't need to. There will always be a segment of the media that will never report the facts, they, like you, will blame floyd for everything. When he was playing the villian they could get away with it. But floyd isn't playing the villian anymore. His stus as the best fighter in the world and the face of the sport is solidified. He is getting much more friendlier press and he isn't responding to his critics in such a chilidish way. Floyd seems to have realized that manny did this to himself. Had he not tried to CW cotto again, he wouldn't have had to fight JMM 4 , not been KO'd, and maybe things would be different. Instead, his game backfired, cotto said no, manny got KTFO, and floyd whitewashed Canelo and made almost $90 mil. So now manny is calling him out again, expecting to get the same offer from 4 years ago-while simulutaneously trying to get JMM for a 5th fight without paying him what he wants.

PAC is the only fighter Floyd would face with some real bad blood. Floyd should have presented the testing as a professional instead of accusing like a kid.

exactly. before floyd would get frustrated and go HAM. Now, he's finally realized what the deal is. Manny wants the fight up until an offer is placed in front of him. He never accepts the offer because he knows his fans will not hold him accountable. When manny turns down floyd you and other posters blame the offer floyd made. WHen tim and JMM and cotto turn manny down you and manny fans say those guys are scared. SO its always the other guy and never manny. SO my guess is floyd just got tired of always hearing this kind of crap and didn't give manny or his fans anything to run with. He relied simply and accurately that manny has to come back from the KO. im not " u guys", i never said jmm and cotto is scared. if floyd was getting tired because manny keeps turning his offer down then why wouldnt he say anything about it?? i have yet to hear floyd mention about manny is always turning my offer down thats why im acting like this in any of his raging interview. instead he goes off topic asking where was manny at, manny is on steriods, his head got bigger, he eats dogs, etc. also like i mention floyd recently went public about how nmanny is a has been and his career is over, to me thats still taking shots at manny when the question being aksed has nothing to do with what floyd thinks about manny and his career.

The hate is strong for both Pac and his fans in here. Pointing out hypocricy does not mean you hate Pac or his fans. Holding manny accountable for his actions doesn't mean you hate him.

so floyds offer is always right?? and why would that make him turn into a raging nut case?? floyd refuse manny's offer too, but u dont see manny going into a raging animal and floyd hasnt shrug it off yet, just recently he went on and said manny is a has been and his career is over. exactly. before floyd would get frustrated and go HAM. Now, he's finally realized what the deal is. Manny wants the fight up until an offer is placed in front of him. He never accepts the offer because he knows his fans will not hold him accountable. When manny turns down floyd you and other posters blame the offer floyd made. WHen tim and JMM and cotto turn manny down you and manny fans say those guys are scared. SO its always the other guy and never manny. SO my guess is floyd just got tired of always hearing this kind of crap and didn't give manny or his fans anything to run with. He relied simply and accurately that manny has to come back from the KO.

The hate is strong for both Pac and his fans in here.