Does HBO talk about Gatti-Ward too much?

It was a great documentary, I teared up a few times. Hi Jim Lampley. :wave:

I agree with earlier post that Castillo/Corrales was better. Plus it was at a higher skill level. I mean we are talking about Mickey Ward & Gatti. Fighters who lost Zab Judah & Ivan Robinson.

It was a great documentary, I teared up a few times.

I didn't watch the documentary because I seen all three fights a hundred times and tons of stories already. Didn't need to watch it all again yet.

You don't have to be two top elite fighters to get FOTY or decade or century. While it's all opinion, one can't dispute that it's up there with the best of them as some of those rounds looked unreal to the point that it looked like it was a movie because or else one would say "the ref would have stopped the fight!" If you saw the documentary, it's hard to complain. There was a lot of emotions by the HBO commentators too. They appreciated the trilogy and in a way, since they were there, it was a part of them.

The way I see it, this trilogy gets a lot of props because of the fighters. Gatti was a very likeable guy, tough as they come, and you also have the fact that he died in a tragic/suspicious way. Ward was a true rags to riches story. He is like a real life Rocky, even though he was never a true world champion. The fact is that the guy is very humble and very likeable. He was the kind of guy you root for. He pretty much embodied the struggles of life whenever he got in the ring. He was a fighter in its purest meaning. If you have a fight like this between two guys that not only capture your imagination in the ring but also the stuff that happens in real life, then it transcends the sport and becomes something bigger, regardless of world titles. To me, that's why Gatti-Ward is held in such high regard and with such nostalgia.

What I'm trying to get at, is does HBO talk about these guys/ and there fights too much? I mean lets go over this -Jim Lampley created the "Gatti List", they created a documentary on there trilogy, (which I actually enjoyed) they invite Mickey Ward to the IBHOF even though he's not a hall of famer, and imo they played a big role in getting arturo into the hall of fame. And it seems like EVERY SINGLE DAMN TIME an exchange is happening, either Lampley or Merchant has gotta bring up "SHADES OF GATTI-WARD!!" Is it a little excessive? And I'm I the only one that's gets annoyed by it? Well, it doesn't annoy me-takes a lot more than that- but I agree with you. People who should know better, and those who don't know, keep blathering about the Gatt-Ward Trilogy as if the'd just learnt a new word. Only their first fight was the "blood-and-guts" kind that so many love. The other two were really anti-climactic. However, that first fight started a big surge to give these two average fighters (average in every way but face-first bravery) a million dollar purse each. And I believe that they did get it, although after the second fight I don't know if the third was as financially rewarding. It gave a big boost to their pocketbooks and especially to Ward who had been fighting for peanuts his whole life. Gatti left just over $3 mill....... You may recall the law cases over who was to get the money. AND THE WORD IS SPELLED "THEIR" in the contexts you've used it in.

gatti definitely wasn't a journeyman. he was a two weight world champion, and a huge draw in AC. ward i'll give you. he was a club fighter / journeyman. gatti was a punching bag, and never even close to an elite fighter, but he wasn't a journeyman when he fought ward. he had been a champ at 130, and would later go on to be a champ at 140. alphabet champ, but he beat OK fighters. i think ward-gatti 1 might be the most exciting boxing match ever. ok, i will give you that gatti was a step up from journeymen,, he could fight, just not on the elite level, hence why ivan robinson smoked him, and oscar, floyd,.... He was a 2 division champ, but he was never considered the best or p4p... Gatti-ward was exciting, but i thought castillo-corrales was much better, and i will even go out on a limb and say i had more adrenline flowing watching cotto-margs, manny-morales 1,2, bowe-holyfield, and even oscar-vargas. Ward-gatti was a classic fight, but i dont see how it can be considered the greatest thing ever

gatti definitely wasn't a journeyman. he was a two weight world champion, and a huge draw in AC. ward i'll give you. he was a club fighter / journeyman. gatti was a punching bag, and never even close to an elite fighter, but he wasn't a journeyman when he fought ward. he had been a champ at 130, and would later go on to be a champ at 140. alphabet champ, but he beat OK fighters. i think ward-gatti 1 might be the most exciting boxing match ever. That is the whole thing about those fights to me, Gatti was pretty good he wasn't a world beater but he was a solid guy, Ward not so much. While Gatti had decent offensive boxing skills he often just didn't do the right thing. ALl those fights always left me thinking "damn it was as if Gatti wanted to pull that cart of rocks up the hill just because when he could have made it so much easier on himself". That is probably why I never got full enjoyment out of them because I always felt Gatti was fucking up,

Yeah they talk about them way too much,,, lets be real,, gatti and ward were 2 journeymen contenders with exciting styles,,, hagler-hearns was at least 2 ATGs in their prime, same for mab-morales even castillo-corrales and marquez-vasquez was for titles,, these guys were just a glorified version of espn fnf TBH great fight but i think it gets overblown gatti definitely wasn't a journeyman. he was a two weight world champion, and a huge draw in AC. ward i'll give you. he was a club fighter / journeyman. gatti was a punching bag, and never even close to an elite fighter, but he wasn't a journeyman when he fought ward. he had been a champ at 130, and would later go on to be a champ at 140. alphabet champ, but he beat OK fighters. i think ward-gatti 1 might be the most exciting boxing match ever.

they need to talk about wlad-povetkin and floyd-baldomir more. boxing masterclasses.

They do kind of mention it too much, but they were on the network, they were 3 great fights, there was the movie about Ward and Gatti was an HBO staple. So I get the whole obsession but having watched them live it does get kind of old because while they were good action fights they weren't the highest level stuff so it is not something I look to compare other fights to.

they were talking about it last night because of the legendary nights episode.

Just cause the personalities both fighters had added to the drama and excitement. You couldn't hate either fighter and they were classy throughout their careers. Gatti stuck with HBO till the end and they loved him for that, and Micky provided HBO with good entertainment boxing or within documentaries.

No, they were legendary wars, something the viewing public can relate to. Fights like that are the reason 99% of fans watch the sport.

And they were 12 round fights!!!!

yeah very true Gatti-ward was great but no better than holyfield-bowe MAB-morales manny-jmm marquez-vasquez Castillo-corrales 1 was a much better fight than gatti-ward 1 Yeah, I agree with that last sentence, Although Vasquez-Marquez and Castillo-Corales were on Showtime. Maybe they like Gatti-Ward because it had that storybook, Rocky and Apollo ending.

Their talent wasnt extraordinary, but what they did in the ring together was indeed something really special. One of the great rivalries, and their first fight was one for the ****in ages. Saying that, I was and am a huge Gatti fan, but why aren't they talking about Morales-Barrera like that? yeah very true Gatti-ward was great but no better than holyfield-bowe MAB-morales manny-jmm marquez-vasquez Castillo-corrales 1 was a much better fight than gatti-ward 1

Their talent wasnt extraordinary, but what they did in the ring together was indeed something really special. One of the great rivalries, and their first fight was one for the ****in ages. Saying that, I was and am a huge Gatti fan, but why aren't they talking about Morales-Barrera like that? Morales-Barrera is up there for me for sure, castillo-corrales is another one. or hell, there own guys pac-marquez have probably one of the most famous rivalries ever. but no, to HBO everything lacks in comparision to gatti-ward. HBO thinks Gatti-ward is the perfect fight, which I'm not sure I agree with.

Their talent wasnt extraordinary, but what they did in the ring together was indeed something really special. One of the great rivalries, and their first fight was one for the ****in ages. Saying that, I was and am a huge Gatti fan, but why aren't they talking about Morales-Barrera like that?