Why do Manny and Bradley get credit for their fights with Juan..yes Floyd seems to get 0 credit for being the only man to "TOY" with Juan?? all fights happened at ww
Floyd fought Marquez when he was a lightweight (135 lb), set a catchweight one and a half divisions up (144 lb) and then didn't even make his own catchweight (146 lb). He cherry-picked a fighter who was competing two weight classes below him. After that fight Marquez returned to compete in the lightweight division.
Bradley fought Marquez after JMM had established himself at welterweight for the previous two years. Marquez fought a tune-up in summer 2011 to acclimate to the weight before the third Pacquiao fight. He continued to fight at that weight through 2012 and 2013. When Bradley fought him, he was a competitor at welterweight for two and a half years.
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Floyd was inactive for 21 months before he stepped in the ring with Marquez.
How long had Marquez been in-active before he met Floyd?
1. Marquez hadn't fought at welterweight before
2. Floyd refused to even make the catchweight he promised
3. Marquez looked slow, weak, sluggish and out of shape at welterweight because he hadn't hooked up with a steroid chemist yet
4. Marquez wasn't coming off his biggest win in his career which was ko'ing manny pacquiao and just looking and punching like a monster
It's pretty easy to see the differences.....
Floyd fought Marquez when he was a lightweight (135 lb), set a catchweight one and a half divisions up (144 lb) and then didn't even make his own catchweight (146 lb). He cherry-picked a fighter who was competing two weight classes below him. After that fight Marquez returned to compete in the lightweight division.
Bradley fought Marquez after JMM had established himself at welterweight for the previous two years. Marquez fought a tune-up in summer 2011 to acclimate to the weight before the third Pacquiao fight. He continued to fight at that weight through 2012 and 2013. When Bradley fought him, he was a competitor at welterweight for two and a half years.
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Im not going to say floyd hate or whatever on you but Juan is the one who called out Floyd and he accepted the fight. So regardless of weight the fight happened. Floyd did not cherry pick JMM.
Look it up. After Juans fight I believe with Juan diaz he said if I cant get a fight with Pac then I want floyd.
THere is a huge double standard but in reality that was one of Floyds best wins and he did it coming off almost a 2 year lay off. Winning every round. Thats freakin impressive.
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Floyd fought Marquez when he was a lightweight (135 lb), set a catchweight one and a half divisions up (144 lb) and then didn't even make his own catchweight (146 lb). He cherry-picked a fighter who was competing two weight classes below him. After that fight Marquez returned to compete in the lightweight division.
Bradley fought Marquez after JMM had established himself at welterweight for the previous two years. Marquez fought a tune-up in summer 2011 to acclimate to the weight before the third Pacquiao fight. He continued to fight at that weight through 2012 and 2013. When Bradley fought him, he was a competitor at welterweight for two and a half years.
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All he's going to see is "FLOYD HATE FLOYD HATE FLOYD HATE" and not the logic and sense behind you're post.
No... All he sees is Floyd's nuts on his chin. :D
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Why are you Floyd fans crying? Floyd did it to himself cherry picking and he reaped the consequences. Bradley was in an equal chance fight with Marquez. Floyd didn't have that billing. To make it worse he came higher than the revised catchweight clause. You got to think it was fear that motivated Floyd to come in heavier. What else?
What did I lie about?? Pull up all Manny Fights(while he was on his win Streak) and look at his Opponents Fight night weight then check their other fights..
Marg 165, Mosley 16x. Nice rehydration limits, moron
LOL isn't this Curtis Stevens booster a lying idiot. GTFO retard
What did I lie about?? Pull up all Manny Fights(while he was on his win Streak) and look at his Opponents Fight night weight then check their other fights..
When Pac Drain His Opponents and keep them Dehydrated 10-15 pounds under their fight night Weight its No Problem(ok cool)
LOL isn't this Curtis Stevens booster a lying idiot. GTFO retard
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Where have you been ?
New are ye ?
Well youngin, Jr took a blown up featherweight named JMM and made him come to WW , then cheated on him in the weight to insure his win
That JMM is NOT the MEMO JMM PERIOD
I still dont get what ur saying!!!!
Floyd was coming out of Retirement...
And marquez wanted the fight....Floyd was already a ww for a few years....
For Floyd it was basically a f..king big name Tune up fight...Marquez didnt have to take the **** son!! Floyd wasn't really in Boxing shape name another fight in Floyd history where he was over Weight??
as I can recall for every fight Floyd was always outweighed 10-15 pounds on fight night...So WTF are u saying?? Should Floyd Drained himself to Feather Weight?? to make the fight even for Marquez?? JMM didn't have to come up for the Floyd fight!!!!!No Gun to His head..and Floyd Paid him for being 2 pounds over!!!
I'm really trying to see ur side to this but your point is null!!!!
being 146 for a 144 for after being out for a long layoff..Is not as Bad as
holding fighters 15-20 pounds under their fighting weight Bro!!!!
wasn't rios just fighting at 135 now Pac wants him at 147?? ****ing hypocrisy
ya'll Argument is (Pac didn't force them to accept the catchweight Clause)
So shouldn't the same goes for Floyd???
Why do Manny and Bradley get credit for their fights with Juan..yes Floyd seems to get 0 credit for being the only man to "TOY" with Juan?? all fights happened at ww
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Where have you been ?
New are ye ?
Well youngin, Jr took a blown up featherweight named JMM and made him come to WW , then cheated on him in the weight to insure his win
That JMM is NOT the MEMO JMM PERIOD
Why do Manny and Bradley get credit for their fights with Juan..yes Floyd seems to get 0 credit for being the only man to "TOY" with Juan?? all fights happened at ww
cause most people don't know **** about boxing. they just really hate mayweather, they say he cherry picked marquez. I've never heard anyone say ray leonard cherry picked Roberto duran when he made him come up from 135 to 147. I've never heard anyone say de la hoya cherry picked shane mosley when he made him come up from 135 to 147. I've never heard anybody say tarver cherry picked Hopkins when he made him come up from 160 to 175. people just hold Floyd to a standard that they hold no other fighter too
Floyd fought Marquez when he was a lightweight (135 lb), set a catchweight one and a half divisions up (144 lb) and then didn't even make his own catchweight (146 lb). He cherry-picked a fighter who was competing two weight classes below him. After that fight Marquez returned to compete in the lightweight division.
Bradley fought Marquez after JMM had established himself at welterweight for the previous two years. Marquez fought a tune-up in summer 2011 to acclimate to the weight before the third Pacquiao fight. He continued to fight at that weight through 2012 and 2013. When Bradley fought him, he was a competitor at welterweight for two and a half years.
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Boom, destroyed by 1st post ko.
Floyd fought Marquez when he was a lightweight (135 lb), set a catchweight one and a half divisions up (144 lb) and then didn't even make his own catchweight (146 lb). He cherry-picked a fighter who was competing two weight classes below him. After that fight Marquez returned to compete in the lightweight division.
Bradley fought Marquez after JMM had established himself at welterweight for the previous two years. Marquez fought a tune-up in summer 2011 to acclimate to the weight before the third Pacquiao fight. He continued to fight at that weight through 2012 and 2013. When Bradley fought him, he was a competitor at welterweight for two and a half years.
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so was sugar ray leonard fighting Roberto duran the first time a cherry pick?
duran went from lightweight to welterweight for the fight. was Oscar de la hoya fighting sugar shane mosley the first time a cherry pick? mosley went from lightweight to welterweight for the fight.
People acting like JMM was a better fighter 4 years down the line LOL. The JMM floyd fought is the same JMM pac and Bradley fought. Put any spin you want on it. He looked faster vs Floyd then Bradley ! Why because he was younger and fresher. Act like his strength and conditioning coach made any difference but he didnt in the 4th fight with pac JMM was getting beat easily but **** happens pac walked onto a shot. People chatting utter **** about the weight all JMM does is not cut weight to fight a WW. The hypocrisy on this site is mind boggling !!
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Marquez asked for the Floyd fight..he knew Floyd was bigger than him!! he didn't have to Accept the Fight... Catch weight was 144 Floyd came in at 146...Paid a fine ok Cool!!!
When Pac Drain His Opponents and keep them Dehydrated 10-15 pounds under their fight night Weight its No Problem(ok cool)
I'll Show the ****ing Bias....
Mosely beat the Crap out of Margo at 38 ppl in the boxing world as begging for floyd to fight him!! alot of poster here called him a ducker ..then he Dominated Mosley(he did get hurt in round 2) but he Boxed the **** out of him!!(oh Floyd cherry picked Mosley No credit for beating shane he's washed up)
Marquez coming off a Big win against pac Marquez is 40 Now!!! he is Great but not a better Boxer than Mosley Timmy beat him in a Close Fight..Now ya'll want to give Timmy all the credit in the world!
I bet if Floyd was the one that beat Marquez again on Saturday the same ppl saying Timmy is great would say Floyd deserve no Credit for beating a 40 year old):crucified
it was a cherry pick. he was fighting at 135 at the time and went back down to that weight after the fight. tim beat him after a career best win. both get credit but i give tim more but floyd performance was better.
Maybe because JMMs preparation for Floyd was to drink piss, and he bloated himself up.
Also, hardly a little detail is that Floyd came in overweight. That's not something anyone can easily ignore. Floyd didn't have to kill himself to make weight, if he did he might not have performed so well on fight night.
FLoyd gets zero credit because that's how he likes it, he wouldn't have it any other way. Otherwise he would have fought Canelo at 154. Canelo isn't even a p4p fighter BTW.
sometimes I wonder if Floyd does it on purpose because negative press still brings interest its not like he would not have still beaten these guys and why he dodged Mararito and Pacquiao I will never know he probably beats margs easy and even pacquiao should have been a win
Why do Manny and Bradley get credit for their fights with Juan..yes Floyd seems to get 0 credit for being the only man to "TOY" with Juan?? all fights happened at ww
Maybe because JMMs preparation for Floyd was to drink piss, and he bloated himself up.
Also, hardly a little detail is that Floyd came in overweight. That's not something anyone can easily ignore. Floyd didn't have to kill himself to make weight, if he did he might not have performed so well on fight night.
FLoyd gets zero credit because that's how he likes it, he wouldn't have it any other way. Otherwise he would have fought Canelo at 154. Canelo isn't even a p4p fighter BTW.