Giving Floyd Mayweather his credit...and some

that gif though. I'm dead!

Holes your reply is nothing but vague and hole filled. You explained nothing. Its already proven that Arum is not protecting Manny, he has bad blood with golden boy but Floyd has fake bad blood with arum, when he sees arum he hugs him and praises him, yet he makes up the lame crap like he wont fight Manny cause of arum, get a hint dude he means I will never fight him. its all ducking moves. Arum hasn't bad mouthed Floyd in ages and even said he would work with him but Floyd doesn't want to. And Oscar and Richard are the ones who ****ed Arum over, if you don't believe that you are a fool. stop falling for the smoke and mirrors, every promoter is shady, why single out bob, I bet you are one of those that think the Shadow aka Haymon is a great man just cause he is with Floyd. I single out Bob for making just TR fights. How about when Golden Boy offered up money for a donaire vs mares. Bob is keeping money in house. Im not falling for anything that isnt proven. Open your eyes dude. I dont trust any promoter but i will trust evidence. everything that you say or agreed with was nothing but personal feelings blinded by hate

This whole post is filled with holes that you have filled with delusion. You say man golden boy got arrogant and started talking ****. floyd doesnt want to work with arum, it doesnt make sense. Well for one none of it makes sense to you because your not there. One thing you can bank on is there is bad blood. Arum is a dirty and devious dude(not saying hes the only one) but hes admitted that he lied about things and when people called him out on it he said I was lying then but now im telling the truth. How could you ever trust a guy like that Holes your reply is nothing but vague and hole filled. You explained nothing. Its already proven that Arum is not protecting Manny, he has bad blood with golden boy but Floyd has fake bad blood with arum, when he sees arum he hugs him and praises him, yet he makes up the lame crap like he wont fight Manny cause of arum, get a hint dude he means I will never fight him. its all ducking moves. Arum hasn't bad mouthed Floyd in ages and even said he would work with him but Floyd doesn't want to. And Oscar and Richard are the ones who ****ed Arum over, if you don't believe that you are a fool. stop falling for the smoke and mirrors, every promoter is shady, why single out bob, I bet you are one of those that think the Shadow aka Haymon is a great man just cause he is with Floyd.

I recall that Arum put Pacman in with barrera, JMM, Oscar and Hatton all golden boy fighters once they resolved their feud. the second time around Arum wasn't going to take golden boys BS and sh1t talk, if anything Richard and Oscar were the two faces they only apologized to Arum first time after the manny pacquiao contract dispute because Mayweather retired after the hatton fight and they had no one left, once Floyd came back Richard and Oscar got arrogant and started talking sh1t again. Has nothing to do with Arum, Arum never made Sergio Martinez sign with him to fight Chavez Jr. Arum just doesn't want to deal with two faced guys anymore. and Floyd is the one who keeps bringing up that Pac has to leave Arum, Arum said many times he will do business with Floyd its Floyd who won't do business with Arum, why? it makes no sense to be honest. If floyd really wanted the fight he would just do the fight. Didn't Floyd say Pacman had to sign with his company first and fight a few fights? And I ain't defending Arum because to me all promoters are on the same page, its all business, just setting it straight. This whole post is filled with holes that you have filled with delusion. You say man golden boy got arrogant and started talking ****. floyd doesnt want to work with arum, it doesnt make sense. Well for one none of it makes sense to you because your not there. One thing you can bank on is there is bad blood. Arum is a dirty and devious dude(not saying hes the only one) but hes admitted that he lied about things and when people called him out on it he said I was lying then but now im telling the truth. How could you ever trust a guy like that

This fight between Floyd and Pac is doomed since the start and would never take place until Floyd stops moving the goal post to a reachable stretch for both fighters.

You said $40 mil was insulting, but you won't admit its way more than Manny has ever made or will make. It doesn't matter if it would've been Manny's best payday, his own PPV numbers are worthy of a fair %.

Hearns would have ko'd Floyd. I don't know about that but I'm absolutely sure that Hearns would've literally killed Matthysse.

I recall that Arum put Pacman in with barrera, JMM, Oscar and Hatton all golden boy fighters once they resolved their feud. the second time around Arum wasn't going to take golden boys BS and sh1t talk, if anything Richard and Oscar were the two faces they only apologized to Arum first time after the manny pacquiao contract dispute because Mayweather retired after the hatton fight and they had no one left, once Floyd came back Richard and Oscar got arrogant and started talking sh1t again. Has nothing to do with Arum, Arum never made Sergio Martinez sign with him to fight Chavez Jr. Arum just doesn't want to deal with two faced guys anymore. and Floyd is the one who keeps bringing up that Pac has to leave Arum, Arum said many times he will do business with Floyd its Floyd who won't do business with Arum, why? it makes no sense to be honest. If floyd really wanted the fight he would just do the fight. Didn't Floyd say Pacman had to sign with his company first and fight a few fights? And I ain't defending Arum because to me all promoters are on the same page, its all business, just setting it straight. You can't have it both ways. Sergio has nothing to do with this. You can't justify every time manny refuses to fight and then criticize floyd for not wanting to work with Bob. It's really simple. Plenty of fighters, including floyd, have taken short money or a crappy deal to get the chance at the big fight. Manny is no different. If he doesn't want to do this and doesn't make the fght fine-just hold him accountable for his actions. You said $40 mil was insulting, but you won't admit its way more than Manny has ever made or will make. Yes, the fight will gross a lot more and yes, manny wont get an equal cut. Canelo didn't with floyd, floyd didn't with ODH. DIdn't stop them from making the fight.

The logic of beating a guy without facing him: "Floyd Mayweather would have knocked Paul Williams out because he's a better boxer than Carlos Quintana." "Floyd Mayweather would've knocked Antonio Margarito out because he beat a 38 year old, inactive Mosley 16 months later." "Floyd Mayweather would've knocked Manny Pacquiao out because he beat Juan Manuel Marquez." Floyd Mayweather gets credit for wins and knockouts he had no part in, he even gets credit for knockouts that didn't happen in his own fights. "He would've knocked Marquez out but he was too fat." "He would've stopped Mosley if he would've exchanged more." "He would've knocked Cotto out if he didn't have the sniffles." "He would've knocked Guerrero out if he didn't hurt his hand." "He would've knocked Canelo out if he didn't bump his elbow." "He would've knocked Oscar out if not for the 10 oz gloves...they both wore." "He would'n't have lost to Castillo if he didn't hurt his shoulder." "He wouldn't of ran from big bad Baldomir if he didn't hurt his hand or shoulder or ribs or whatever the excuse was here." "He would have more knockouts if he didn't fight so many slick fighters...oh wait, that doesn't make any sense...I should stop here." He would've, he should've, he didn't. He would've, he could've, but he ducked instead. Enough people. Floyd Mayweather is nothing more than an elaborate illusion. You've been duped.Floyd would've had some losses, but he wanted to win every fight.

Hey guys, how about some honesty. Yeah, no ppv for a huge ppv draw is an insult. To offset that, floyd offered a guarantee of $40 mil to a man who has never made more than $28 mil for a fight as the "A" side where he gets most of the ppv. Fact remains that Manny's promoter asked JMM and Tim to join TR before they got a fight with Manny. They agreed. Manny made Rios take testing before they fought. Rios agreed. Now Manny is the "b" side to floyd if they fight. No matter how much you love manny its clear that as the b side he will haveto make concessions to get the fight. Its as if you guys think he is entitlted to something more. Kovalev just took short money on the road and won. JMM did same. Tim did but IMO he got a gift decision. If manny wants the floyd fight Its not unreasonable that he be forced to do the same things he makes his opponents do to get a fight with him. I recall that Arum put Pacman in with barrera, JMM, Oscar and Hatton all golden boy fighters once they resolved their feud. the second time around Arum wasn't going to take golden boys BS and sh1t talk, if anything Richard and Oscar were the two faces they only apologized to Arum first time after the manny pacquiao contract dispute because Mayweather retired after the hatton fight and they had no one left, once Floyd came back Richard and Oscar got arrogant and started talking sh1t again. Has nothing to do with Arum, Arum never made Sergio Martinez sign with him to fight Chavez Jr. Arum just doesn't want to deal with two faced guys anymore. and Floyd is the one who keeps bringing up that Pac has to leave Arum, Arum said many times he will do business with Floyd its Floyd who won't do business with Arum, why? it makes no sense to be honest. If floyd really wanted the fight he would just do the fight. Didn't Floyd say Pacman had to sign with his company first and fight a few fights? And I ain't defending Arum because to me all promoters are on the same page, its all business, just setting it straight.

Mayweather is a great fighter but he ducked Margarito in his prime. One of the biggest ducks of all-time in my opinion. Margarito was the most dangerous man in boxing and Mayweather said the risk isnt worth the reward. What was the reward? Re-up with Top Rank, not get a fight with Oscar and keep getting bent over by Uncle Bob. Yes quite a reward.

Most of these flowmos don't know business, they are only defending Floyds offer because they are idiotic biased morons. yes 40 million flat fee and no ppv is an insult and only an idiot who was a draw like Pacman would be stupid enough to take that offer. Its funny cause unbiasedly anyone with a brain would call that a low ball offer. These flowmos are despicable idiots. Yup its like they take everything Floyd say at face value. Hey guys, how about some honesty. Yeah, no ppv for a huge ppv draw is an insult. To offset that, floyd offered a guarantee of $40 mil to a man who has never made more than $28 mil for a fight as the "A" side where he gets most of the ppv. Fact remains that Manny's promoter asked JMM and Tim to join TR before they got a fight with Manny. They agreed. Manny made Rios take testing before they fought. Rios agreed. Now Manny is the "b" side to floyd if they fight. No matter how much you love manny its clear that as the b side he will haveto make concessions to get the fight. Its as if you guys think he is entitlted to something more. Kovalev just took short money on the road and won. JMM did same. Tim did but IMO he got a gift decision. If manny wants the floyd fight Its not unreasonable that he be forced to do the same things he makes his opponents do to get a fight with him.

Mayweather is a great fighter but he ducked Margarito in his prime. One of the biggest ducks of all-time in my opinion. Margarito was the most dangerous man in boxing and Mayweather said the risk isnt worth the reward. Thats crazy he was the most dangerous man but just got out boxed at 154 before calling out floyd. You guys got to pay attention to boxing a little more.

I am not a ***** or a ******* so I won't join the argument either way I am just wondering what is and what constitutes a fringe ******* either you are or you arnt right ? I don't know though so please if you could fill me in I dont use the word p@ct@rd or any variation of it. Fringe manny fans are hectari, cgarcia, hugh grant, adop2, ifctitles, joeman, straightleft, spoon23, and some others. They have strong opinions supported by no facts. They post lie after lie and try and justify it. They are like the far right birther fringe of the republican party. So I just call them fringe manny fans.

Flowmos don't have manhood. They whine and cry like Floyd does, America don't love me! how can this filipino Pacman get love in my own country! :bottle: Also they red rep you just for disagreeing or not liking your post.

good post. what else do you expect from the fringe manny fans. I am not a ***** or a ******* so I won't join the argument either way I am just wondering what is and what constitutes a fringe ******* either you are or you arnt right ? I don't know though so please if you could fill me in

yeah that's hilarious. I'm just calling it like it is. check the last post, i even dropped quotes to back it. floyd is one of the best, the best fighter today actually. why is it considered hate when I call out the bullsht floyd fans spew everyday? Because you and others like you can't take break from it. Are Mayweather fans the only ones to spew BS? Most certainly not. Yet you seem to be calling out the "BS" that offends your precious sensibilities the most and do it over and over again (ie. All things Mayweather). That's not healthy behaviour, but it's your life. Besides, act as if you're on some benevolent mission but really your ranting is as subjective as the next persons.

Lets just say Floyd would lose to anybody he supposed have ducked by KO. So we dont have to see the thread 15 times a week with different titles.

This is some serious venting! Is it part of a "12 Steps" program for MA (Mayweather Anonymous)? Some people have got it bad! LOL yeah that's hilarious. I'm just calling it like it is. check the last post, i even dropped quotes to back it. floyd is one of the best, the best fighter today actually. why is it considered hate when I call out the bullsht floyd fans spew everyday?

The logic of beating a guy without facing him: "Floyd Mayweather would have knocked Paul Williams out because he's a better boxer than Carlos Quintana." "Floyd Mayweather would've knocked Antonio Margarito out because he beat a 38 year old, inactive Mosley 16 months later." "Floyd Mayweather would've knocked Manny Pacquiao out because he beat Juan Manuel Marquez." Floyd Mayweather gets credit for wins and knockouts he had no part in, he even gets credit for knockouts that didn't happen in his own fights. "He would've knocked Marquez out but he was too fat." "He would've stopped Mosley if he would've exchanged more." "He would've knocked Cotto out if he didn't have the sniffles." "He would've knocked Guerrero out if he didn't hurt his hand." "He would've knocked Canelo out if he didn't bump his elbow." "He would've knocked Oscar out if not for the 10 oz gloves...they both wore." "He would'n't have lost to Castillo if he didn't hurt his shoulder." "He wouldn't of ran from big bad Baldomir if he didn't hurt his hand or shoulder or ribs or whatever the excuse was here." "He would have more knockouts if he didn't fight so many slick fighters...oh wait, that doesn't make any sense...I should stop here." He would've, he should've, he didn't. He would've, he could've, but he ducked instead. Enough people. Floyd Mayweather is nothing more than an elaborate illusion. You've been duped. Mayweather is a great fighter but he ducked Margarito in his prime. One of the biggest ducks of all-time in my opinion. Margarito was the most dangerous man in boxing and Mayweather said the risk isnt worth the reward.