Does a "Roach Trained" Cotto Defeat Austin Trout?

Cotto look great last nite in the win... He def will win the next fight with trout if they fought. Cotto look terrible in wins vs the same level competion in mayorga and foreman. You guys gotta him props, Im sure alot of you guys didnt expect cotto to go in there and win the way he did. So lets not act like what he did isnt impressive. Delvin could of use his height, tied him up and fought ugly like he did againt trout but he wasnt able to do that. I wonder why?

This. I'm amazed that so many people are overlook such a simple fact nad buying that Cotto is a "new" fighter. Cotto is the same Cotto. He is NOT going to look that good against either Trout, Martinez, Canelo or any other fighter on that level. Cotto seems to change trainers whenever he loses and it hasn't done a damn thing different for him. They can't get in the ring and fight for him. Can't believe I'm agreeing with you. Those are my thoughts exactly!

Even Roy Jones jr sounded ridiculous when he said, "It will be interesting if Cotto fights Floyd again and throws the left hook like he did tonight." If Cotto is missing and getting countered, he's not going to throw the left hook the same way as he will with an overmatched opponent. The excuses for Cotto today are ridiculous though. From his last two fights, it's because he didn't train properly, he was shot, wrong strategy, didn't throw his left hook, or he gassed out. it goes on and on... "Like Oscar and the jab, I forgot to throw the hook against Floyd. I don't know why" Miguel Cotto. That'a right, these fighters forget to throw these punces. Freddie's reminding skills were on point for this one. Not so much Oscar. And it only works sometimes with Pacquaio's right hook 50-50.

Seriously I doubt actually understand boxing on here, it's scary some of the things you read here like "increase his output" or he wasn't "mentally ready".. Cotto seems to get a pass from fans on here, not sure if it's due to fanboyism, lack of boxing knowledge, or the fact that Cotto is a nice guy etc but anyone that followed his career knows that Cotto is not a guy with a high punch output and he still gets tired visibly from the mid rounds onwards. He just fought a lower level opposition and look good (Which was the purpose) and now the excuses are now how he wasn't trained well or didn't have the right gameplan going in, some of these people get sweep off their feets with all these Hollywood boxing trainers.. Me and you could have trained Cotto yesterday, in fact he could have trained himself and still look that good yesterday. Blaming Diaz for Cotto losing to trout and Mayweather is a weak excuse IMO. Even Roy Jones jr sounded ridiculous when he said, "It will be interesting if Cotto fights Floyd again and throws the left hook like he did tonight." If Cotto is missing and getting countered, he's not going to throw the left hook the same way as he will with an overmatched opponent. The excuses for Cotto today are ridiculous though. From his last two fights, it's because he didn't train properly, he was shot, wrong strategy, didn't throw his left hook, or he gassed out. it goes on and on...

This. I'm amazed that so many people are overlook such a simple fact nad buying that Cotto is a "new" fighter. Cotto is the same Cotto. He is NOT going to look that good against either Trout, Martinez, Canelo or any other fighter on that level. Cotto seems to change trainers whenever he loses and it hasn't done a damn thing different for him. They can't get in the ring and fight for him. Well all these people are fanboys so they are talking with their hearts not their heads, I have nothing against Cotto but he had one fight against a low level opposition and was able to go back to his body punching etc and now am suppose to believe his new trainer brought that out of him? Lol, I can bet that he would land those bodyshots against high calibre oppositions, I would bet that he would be hesitant to let his hands go in case he gets countered from a southpaw stance or with a huge right hand etc. we would have to see him against better opposition and see his land those bodyshots with confidence before we declare that we have seen the new Cotto.

He would have lost easier. Gassed by the 4/5th round, Roach doesn't change anything, Cotto would look great under any trainer when fighting low level competition. People need to watch more boxing lol. This. I'm amazed that so many people are overlook such a simple fact nad buying that Cotto is a "new" fighter. Cotto is the same Cotto. He is NOT going to look that good against either Trout, Martinez, Canelo or any other fighter on that level. Cotto seems to change trainers whenever he loses and it hasn't done a damn thing different for him. They can't get in the ring and fight for him.

this is just more excuses. not mentally in the camp? diaz seemed to work fine for rigo, and diaz trained cotto for "floyds toughest fight in years" these are just cop outs Seriously I doubt actually understand boxing on here, it's scary some of the things you read here like "increase his output" or he wasn't "mentally ready".. Cotto seems to get a pass from fans on here, not sure if it's due to fanboyism, lack of boxing knowledge, or the fact that Cotto is a nice guy etc but anyone that followed his career knows that Cotto is not a guy with a high punch output and he still gets tired visibly from the mid rounds onwards. He just fought a lower level opposition and look good (Which was the purpose) and now the excuses are now how he wasn't trained well or didn't have the right gameplan going in, some of these people get sweep off their feets with all these Hollywood boxing trainers.. Me and you could have trained Cotto yesterday, in fact he could have trained himself and still look that good yesterday. Blaming Diaz for Cotto losing to trout and Mayweather is a weak excuse IMO.

Cotto wins a rematch and looks more impressive than Canelo doing it.

yes because he needed to be more aggressive vs Trout.

Why exactly Wasnt cotto at his best? Cause he had a baby in the way like donaire, was he cheating on his wife like pacquiao? Or was it the trainers fault again. He got beat by the better man point blank. Delvin is a bum and cotto did what he was supposed to do to a bum :lol1: :lol1:

Cotto wins a rematch if he throws more left hooks and is agressive as he was in the Delvin fight. Miguel fought a poor fight with Trout without being agressive enough and not working the body with left hooks. Left hooks to the body open up a range of attacks just like it did in the Delvin fight. Cotto hurt Delvin with those body shots so he kept his left elbow low leading to the overhead hook which ended his night. Trout is pretty decent defensively. It's not going to be easy to hit him in the body. He moves quite well. Canelo wasn't able to attack Trouts body with success. And neither did Cotto the first time. And yet you think it'll be different a second time? I think Cotto could win, but won't be so easy.

Trout beat Cotto, but it doesn't make him a better boxer overall. It wasn't a blowout like people say it was, and Cotto was obviously not mentally in camp or that fight. Diaz is a good trainer but let's be real, he was mainly training 4 round amateur fights. He cleaned up Cotto's defense and made him lighter on his feet but he lowered his punch output which is what Cotto should do more of because of his power, not throw less. Roach isn't perfect either no one is, but he'll max out Cotto's offensive output which is only a good thing for Cotto. this is just more excuses. not mentally in the camp? diaz seemed to work fine for rigo, and diaz trained cotto for "floyds toughest fight in years" these are just cop outs

Trout beat Cotto, but it doesn't make him a better boxer overall. It wasn't a blowout like people say it was, and Cotto was obviously not mentally in camp or that fight. Diaz is a good trainer but let's be real, he was mainly training 4 round amateur fights. He cleaned up Cotto's defense and made him lighter on his feet but he lowered his punch output which is what Cotto should do more of because of his power, not throw less. Roach isn't perfect either no one is, but he'll max out Cotto's offensive output which is only a good thing for Cotto. Diaz is a damn good trainer and strategist. If Cotto increased his punch output, he would've tired faster. He has a conditioning issue that is not going to just disappear. Roach is not going to fix that either. Maxing his output is not a good thing for a fighter with a clear conditioning issue where they get visibly tired.

he can, he wasnt as damaged as what pacquiao did. but nah, its too risky. its a bad matchup overall. maravilla or canelo only fight.

Cotto wins a rematch if he throws more left hooks and is agressive as he was in the Delvin fight. Miguel fought a poor fight with Trout without being agressive enough and not working the body with left hooks. Left hooks to the body open up a range of attacks just like it did in the Delvin fight. Cotto hurt Delvin with those body shots so he kept his left elbow low leading to the overhead hook which ended his night.

You're usually a level headed poster (minus the Lucas vs Danny thing lol) but c'mon now he clearly beat cotto don't make excuses for why cotto "wasn't at his best". The delvin win means about as much as cAnelo beating Mosley aka it doesn't mean shlt lol. Trout beat Cotto, but it doesn't make him a better boxer overall. It wasn't a blowout like people say it was, and Cotto was obviously not mentally in camp or that fight. Diaz is a good trainer but let's be real, he was mainly training 4 round amateur fights. He cleaned up Cotto's defense and made him lighter on his feet but he lowered his punch output which is what Cotto should do more of because of his power, not throw less. Roach isn't perfect either no one is, but he'll max out Cotto's offensive output which is only a good thing for Cotto.

Trout isn't better than Cotto. :lol1: Barely beat him on the best night of his career and Cotto's worst. You're usually a level headed poster (minus the Lucas vs Danny thing lol) but c'mon now he clearly beat cotto don't make excuses for why cotto "wasn't at his best". The delvin win means about as much as cAnelo beating Mosley aka it doesn't mean shlt lol.

I think trout still wins. Trout, too big, strong, awkward, rangy and a southpaw. Better to let that fight fade into the night

Why exactly Wasnt cotto at his best? Cause he had a baby in the way like donaire, was he cheating on his wife like pacquiao? Or was it the trainers fault again. He got beat by the better man point blank. Delvin is a bum and cotto did what he was supposed to do to a bum Trout isn't better than Cotto. :lol1: Barely beat him on the best night of his career and Cotto's worst.

Apparently Cotto can't improve on performances where he clearly wasn't his best. :lol1: Why exactly Wasnt cotto at his best? Cause he had a baby in the way like donaire, was he cheating on his wife like pacquiao? Or was it the trainers fault again. He got beat by the better man point blank. Delvin is a bum and cotto did what he was supposed to do to a bum