There are quite a few fighters who use slight rule infractions or all-out fouls in a technical, premeditated manner in order to win fights. Some have criticized Bernard Hopkins, Timothy Bradley and Andre Ward for headbutts, Floyd Mayweather for elbows, Amir Khan for pushing, Ricky Hatton for hugging, Tyson Fury for clawing, Marquez for standing on toes..
After last nights performance against Povetkin, with the countless number of occasions Wladimir leaned on, clinched, held down the head or blatantly pushed Povetkin, is it fair to say Wladimir Klitschko is be the biggest fouler in the sport today? In other words, could it be argued Klitschko is one of the dirtiest fighters in the game?
No, not by a long shot. Poopkins or Ward take your pick.
Seems headbutting isn't as bad as using the clinch technique according to the poll result :dunno:
This fight was an exception, dont try and act like it has always been Wlads thing. Hopkins is the biggest fight spoiler of all time. Theres no debate.
Lol.. the definition of denial. :banghead:
Very interesting since most people on BS appreciated Lewis, who imposed his size and weight to lean on opponents and wear them down. This strategy was one of Manny Stewards own, and although not exciting, is very intelligent and wins fights. An example: Lewis did this quite a bit in 02 when he fought Tyson, rewatch the fight and you'll see a lot of it.
A lot of boxers use that technique, the difference is Wladimir overuses it to an extreme amount which makes him dirtier than any other fighter
And lets not disrespect Lewis by putting Wladimir in the same sentence, Lewis would beat both the brothers within 12 rounds, he already beat Vitali in 6 he would need another 6 at most to beat Wlad
Very interesting since most people on BS appreciated Lewis, who imposed his size and weight to lean on opponents and wear them down. This strategy was one of Manny Stewards own, and although not exciting, is very intelligent and wins fights. An example: Lewis did this quite a bit in 02 when he fought Tyson, rewatch the fight and you'll see a lot of it.
They're just jealous that the dominant HW champion is a Eastern European guy from a country they couldn't pin point on the world map. They'll never get over it. I almost feel sorry for them, since Wladimir will still rule for years to come. They get to hate their lives every day :lol1:
Very interesting since most people on BS appreciated Lewis, who imposed his size and weight to lean on opponents and wear them down. This strategy was one of Manny Stewards own, and although not exciting, is very intelligent and wins fights. An example: Lewis did this quite a bit in 02 when he fought Tyson, rewatch the fight and you'll see a lot of it.
Without any question. The tactics he used against Povetkin would have been better suited in a back alley. MFer actually tried to throw a fully loaded elbow in the center of the ring. He's no longer a "boxer" to me.
yeah i remember that elbow looked very deliberate and obvious
Without any question. The tactics he used against Povetkin would have been better suited in a back alley. MFer actually tried to throw a fully loaded elbow in the center of the ring. He's no longer a "boxer" to me.
he didnt hold much at all in the wach or pianetta fights. not sure why he did so much clinching with povetkin. that was disgraceful. one of the worst fights ive ever seen
Wach and Pianeta are both rather tall.
Also, I suspect it's because Wach and Pianeta didn't belong in there to begin with. They had no chance whatsoever, were utterly outclassed, hence Wladimir was a bit less negative in his approach.
Povektin won a gold medal, and although he's no world beater, is a much better fighter than either.
Klitschko holds at least twice as much as anyone else, he doesn't just hold either, he pushes his opponents heads down and mounts them.
he didnt hold much at all in the wach or pianetta fights. not sure why he did so much clinching with povetkin. that was disgraceful. one of the worst fights ive ever seen
wladimir "rasheed" klitchko
Max: wlad tell us about the fight?
Wlad: both guys fought hard
Max: how about the knockdowns?
WLad: both guys fought hard
Maybe both guys did fight hard, lol.
But it was ugly to watch.
Uh?
Povektin initiated a few of the clinches, and did nothing to discourage Wlad from holding, I give you that.
That said, most inside fighters lean their head against their opponent's chest, that's a technique.
If it was a foul Frazier, for one, would have never boxed.
Maybe Ali should have used Wlad's defense for it, lol.
Frazier would do it but not make contact with his opponents. There's a massive difference.
Povetkin would actually run his head into Wlad over and over again.
That said, if I were Wlad, I would have just taken a step back and upper cutted the crap out of him for it but to each their own.
I'm sure if I was in Wlad's body and didn't land a lucky shot on him, Povetkin would have knocked me out!!!
I think the crown still belongs to BHop. Guys like Wlad and May use the same foul or two repeatedly whereas BHop will use any and every foul if the opportunity presents itself. He is a master at seizing opportunity.
I agree, he should have been warned and it could have changed the fight but if you want to go that route, so should Povetkin. He was constantly running in and putting his head down into Wlads chest area.
Uh?
Povektin initiated a few of the clinches, and did nothing to discourage Wlad from holding, I give you that.
That said, most inside fighters lean their head against their opponent's chest, that's a technique.
If it was a foul Frazier, for one, would have never boxed.
he should have been warned several times in the last fight and a lot more points should have been taken. even being disqualified wouldn't be extreme in this case.
I agree, he should have been warned and it could have changed the fight but if you want to go that route, so should Povetkin. He was constantly running in and putting his head down into Wlads chest area.
He is allowed to get away with it but his fans love it.
I'm a huge Klitschko fan and hated it. Explain that one.
I think Wlad is extremely talented but for some reason, he didn't believe in himself in this fight and laid a stinker.
Win this time, look great next time with that title I guess.
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