The Wlad hate in here is out of control.

Klitschko is shîthouse to watch.

Finally watched the fight; can't blame it all on Wladimir. Povetkin was clinching a lot too. When he got inside, he was wrapping one are around Klitschkos back and holding before Wlad made any moves to hold. I was surprised to see Povetkin ran in a lot and didnt throw any punches on the way in, just got in there chest-to-chest with Wlad. In that case, neither of them had room to work and holding is the natural thing to do. It was an ugly, ugly fight, but the hate on Wlad is a bit over the top.

If he'd finished off Povetkin in round 7 as he came very close to doing would there have been any complaints? I doubt it. The clinching got worse later on because Povetkin was coming forward and leaning in constantly to avoid taking any shots. It didn't help that the Russian promoters had made ring deliberately small restricting room. My one complaint about Wlad isn't the holding, it's he should finish his man when he's clearly done as Povetkin was. I understand why he's cautious because Povetkin can punch and Wlad as the long term champion has it all to lose, but all the same, should have stopped him.

Quote: Originally Posted by CatchweightKing Its not even about haters. Its about selection of choosing who to mock. When its Ward or Hopkins who employ the same exact tactics, its "the sweet science", "crafty veteran moves". These same people said that when Miguel Cotto fought Margarito the second time, he needed to clinch more often to nullify Tonys offense. They even noted how Shane Mosley was able to destroy him using the exact same tactics. But since its Wlad, "this is an outrage, this isn't supposed to be wrestling". "He shouldn't be doing that, this is boxing" The Cotto example is irrelevant, that was one specific fight, against one specific opponent who gave him trouble. The thing that bothers me about Wlad is that he fights shorter, smaller opponents, who only have a chance inside, and uses ILLEGAL maneuvers to thwart their attacks. I have pointed out the Hopkins double standards for a long time, I am still giving Ward the benefit of the doubt, he is coming into his own, although i have seen him hold for no reason at times as well. Also, Wlad does not utilize boxing technique to avoid punches, He just runs away with a height advantage, or holds when his opponent is in decent position, the latter being illegal. So an illegal maneuver Ok for some guys but not others? Interesting that someone would admit it. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

missing JAB doe :( He would have blown up NSB today :lol1: He would have taken another ban straight down the pipe in a matter of minutes. He is out of reach and control.

LMFAO!! Hahahaha! missing JAB doe :( He would have blown up NSB today :lol1:

Grabhisear Clinchhisballs disappointed me last night. Totally turned off on this clown. Yeah he won, but now you know why casual fans can't latch on to this fool. When under pressure, this is what he does. Povetkin had the right game plan, but the wrong ref.

The fact that that is an average Wlad fight is an indictment in and of itself. That was worse than Henry Akinwande's effort against Lennox. "I've seen more technique in bar brawls than this fight" Larry Holmes Actually the snoozefest agaisnt Ibragimov might just be worse.

"Dr. Steel holder" "Dr Velcro Hammer" "Holdimir *****ko" LMFAO!! Hahahaha!

"grabimir clinchko" is genuinely funny.

Lol at Grabimir. Grabimir Clinchko and older brother Shitali Quitschko. "Dr. Steel holder" "Dr Velcro Hammer" "Holdimir *****ko"

james toney is gonna come out of retirement and UD b#tchko. who's next?

The fact that that is an average Wlad fight is an indictment in and of itself. That was worse than Henry Akinwande's effort against Lennox. Wlad probably held as much as Ali did. The later years of his reign was a hugfest extraordinaire. Sometimes people forget that. Just as much as people forget how much Lummox always held behind the head while hitting. And so on and so forth.

I blame Povetkin too, as mentioned in my own thread. But Wlad was content with a stinker of a fight. I haven't seen something like this since Ibragimov. It sucked, and I say this as the biggest Klitschko fan on this forum (others agree with me). Yup. It was horrible.

It's not really about Wlad hatred, it's about a disappointing fight that was dubbed the biggest fight of the decade.

No. It was always potentially gonna be a messy fight with the heightdifference. The referee did a poor job by allowing the holding by Wlad and to some extent the leading with the head by Povetkin. Given these conditions, there was no way Wlad was going to tee off with nifty combos, unless Povetkin ran out of steam. He didn't and he showed a lot of courage and never stopped trying for the homerun. By no means was this a great fight. It was more like average. No way does Wlad deserve the hate that came his way yesterday. The hate started before the midway point, and that got to me a little bit. Hence this thread. I blame Povetkin too, as mentioned in my own thread. But Wlad was content with a stinker of a fight. I haven't seen something like this since Ibragimov. It sucked, and I say this as the biggest Klitschko fan on this forum (others agree with me).

You don't think he stunk the joint out last night? No. It was always potentially gonna be a messy fight with the heightdifference. The referee did a poor job by allowing the holding by Wlad and to some extent the leading with the head by Povetkin. Given these conditions, there was no way Wlad was going to tee off with nifty combos, unless Povetkin ran out of steam. He didn't and he showed a lot of courage and never stopped trying for the homerun. By no means was this a great fight. It was more like average. No way does Wlad deserve the hate that came his way yesterday. The hate started before the midway point, and that got to me a little bit. Hence this thread.

The YouTube comments of fight are hilarious Clinchko is his new name

Yes. When you have as big a height difference as in this case, there is a fairly big potential for it getting messy. Yeah Wlad shouldn't have been allowed to hold as much as he did. The referee should have made it much more clear. At the same time it was not like Povetkin came in clean. He did lead with his head somewhat. So basically another referee could have changed the flow of the fight. For whatever reason Povetkin has this equally ****ty habit with the hump back at the waist bend. Why he is allowed to do this in training, what purpose it serves is a mystery to me.

We have someone like that but he's a middleweight exactly... :fing02: