Alex Ariza never supplied Manny Pacquiao steroids

Dude that is why I responded with that because I always here about Roach Toney and Fortune when its obvious Roach had no connection but they wanted to make Pac as a roid users they have to reach, yet Floyds actual stable had fighters test positive right now. But why don't they say hey that means The Mayweathers are dirty? just like they give Floyd a pass for catchweights. Floyd fans extremely biased idiots who just because they suspect someone they will accuse the and if you question someone they like you are a hater with no knowledge. its only okay for them to reach with conspiracy theory but nobody else can. Its simple. Floyd gets a pass because he takes tests for every fight Pac has refused tests so he will not get a pass

only thing that ever raised brows about pacquiao is the run around he gave floyd when he was asked to take floyds tests litarelly nothing else, everything else is reaching(more power at welter, more speed, more stamina etc, just bullsht) i agree with this. Manny made himself look guilty by his response. Its hard to play the role of "hero" or wear the "white hat" and then make the those types of excuses to avoid more stringent ped tests.

Floyd and Floyd Mayweather Sr had multiple fighters test positive for banned drugs and steroids, how come the ones claiming pac is on juice are not attacking Floyd Mayweather and his fighters? freddie roach had fighters pop for peds to ,see how that works?

Dude that is why I responded with that because I always here about Roach Toney and Fortune when its obvious Roach had no connection but they wanted to make Pac as a roid users they have to reach, yet Floyds actual stable had fighters test positive right now. But why don't they say hey that means The Mayweathers are dirty? just like they give Floyd a pass for catchweights. Floyd fans extremely biased idiots who just because they suspect someone they will accuse the and if you question someone they like you are a hater with no knowledge. its only okay for them to reach with conspiracy theory but nobody else can. Roach knew of toney using snd allowed it to go on. Its on record. He knew of fortune using and instead of turning away PED users he allowed it back into his camp. He did accuse jmm of juicing a even said something along lines of "if jmm is clean ill kiss his butt". These are facts.

only thing that ever raised brows about pacquiao is the run around he gave floyd when he was asked to take floyds tests litarelly nothing else, everything else is reaching(more power at welter, more speed, more stamina etc, just bullsht)

believeing manny did or did not take steroids comes down to a question of charachter since he didn't take any form of enhanced testing-be it USADA, VADA or anything. To judge his charachter you have to consider everything-his humility, the way he helps his constituents as a politician, the way he cheated on his wife, the way he took cash from ODH while still signed to GBP, the gambling, all of it both good and bad as you would any other fighter. I think his track record shows that he is a decent and caring human being who isn't above doing things he knows is wrong to get what he wants.

This thread is based on a opinion but twisted to be a fact. :slap: ^exactly what the Flowmos use, opinion but twisting it to try to make it a fact.

Steroids? Did I miss that one? By the way, so did Roach, not to mention, he admitted knew about it. Dude that is why I responded with that because I always here about Roach Toney and Fortune when its obvious Roach had no connection but they wanted to make Pac as a roid users they have to reach, yet Floyds actual stable had fighters test positive right now. But why don't they say hey that means The Mayweathers are dirty? just like they give Floyd a pass for catchweights. Floyd fans extremely biased idiots who just because they suspect someone they will accuse the and if you question someone they like you are a hater with no knowledge. its only okay for them to reach with conspiracy theory but nobody else can.

Let me ask u a question are u Stupid??? Do you really think the media Would Brush Floyd Materweather PED failed test under the Rug?? When they Killed Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa Career's because if Steroids Use!!! When they Dug up Dirt on barry Bonds and Force him to Serve Jail time!!! Are u that ****ing Stupid!!!!! These Men Saved baseball at a point when the fans were turning away from the sport they started Juicing got fans back into the park!!!! And the Media Still Crushed their careers!!! Do you see Baseball Contracts?? Bonds, Arod, Mark, and Soda were worth More to their Team Than Floyd!!!!..... Do you really think U.S.A that have freedom of the Press would Allow Floyd to Juice?? A Black man at that!! with the Attitude he have!!! Do you know how many would Blow the failed test story up???.... What they would make off the story would be way more than what GBP could pay them!!! That person would down in History as the one that took down the best fighter of his Generation!!and every Journalist is passing on it?? are u that ****ing stupid? You forgot about Armstrong. A man who was an inspiration to so many cancer victims and survivors. His foundation helped with research and gave hope. USADA found him guity and dragged his name through the mud. They crushed him even after all that he did but these boys really think they woul protect a single boxer who many dont seem to like. But why are you gonna do kids gotta have dreams

This thread is based on a opinion but twisted to be a fact. :slap:

Let me ask u a question are u Stupid??? Do you really think the media Would Brush Floyd Materweather PED failed test under the Rug?? When they Killed Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa Career's because if Steroids Use!!! When they Dug up Dirt on barry Bonds and Force him to Serve Jail time!!! Are u that ****ing Stupid!!!!! These Men Saved baseball at a point when the fans were turning away from the sport they started Juicing got fans back into the park!!!! And the Media Still Crushed their careers!!! Do you see Baseball Contracts?? Bonds, Arod, Mark, and Soda were worth More to their Team Than Floyd!!!!..... Do you really think U.S.A that have freedom of the Press would Allow Floyd to Juice?? A Black man at that!! with the Attitude he have!!! Do you know how many would Blow the failed test story up???.... What they would make off the story would be way more than what GBP could pay them!!! That person would down in History as the one that took down the best fighter of his Generation!!and every Journalist is passing on it?? are u that ****ing stupid? Lmmfao. Took the words right out of my mouth. They can extort Floyd over this, ask for money to keep quiet, and they can tape all of his conversations in the process, and make more money coming out than being paid off. They can rip Floyd's balls off by placing them in the gears of a combine if the had that kind of evidence on him.

Don't make any positive Manny threads, you might get banned. No, seriously.

Floyd and Floyd Mayweather Sr had multiple fighters test positive for banned drugs and steroids, how come the ones claiming pac is on juice are not attacking Floyd Mayweather and his fighters? Steroids? Did I miss that one? By the way, so did Roach, not to mention, he admitted knew about it.

Let me ask u a question are u Stupid??? Do you really think the media Would Brush Floyd Materweather PED failed test under the Rug?? When they Killed Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa Career's because if Steroids Use!!! When they Dug up Dirt on barry Bonds and Force him to Serve Jail time!!! Are u that ****ing Stupid!!!!! These Men Saved baseball at a point when the fans were turning away from the sport they started Juicing got fans back into the park!!!! And the Media Still Crushed their careers!!! Do you see Baseball Contracts?? Bonds, Arod, Mark, and Soda were worth More to their Team Than Floyd!!!!..... Do you really think U.S.A that have freedom of the Press would Allow Floyd to Juice?? A Black man at that!! with the Attitude he have!!! Do you know how many would Blow the failed test story up???.... What they would make off the story would be way more than what GBP could pay them!!! That person would down in History as the one that took down the best fighter of his Generation!!and every Journalist is passing on it?? are u that ****ing stupid?

Floyd and Floyd Mayweather Sr had multiple fighters test positive for banned drugs and steroids, how come the ones claiming pac is on juice are not attacking Floyd Mayweather and his fighters? Because of the Money Oscar is making off Floyd that is why the 3 steroid test were swept under the rug

Manny never heard of steroids before 2009, Can't be a better reason than that. Why would he lie?!

I believe Manny isn't on roids because HE SAID SO. Can't be a better reason than that. Why would he lie?!

I don't believe he did unless I see evidence that proves otherwise. Your assumption though that he would suddenly squeal if he did supply them is crazy. Why would he also implicate himself and not only ruin his own reputation and career, but also subject himself to the scrutiny of law for a bit of revenge? the lack of urgency from team pac right now is the main reason i believe this. they're not asking for more testing or trying to make unscrupulous demands like having rios' urine sample collected every day or some such thing. If I knew my former strength coach that supplied me with steroids is now preparing my next opponent, I would probably fcking lose it and make a lot of demands for the fight. and Ariza wouldn't necessarily implicate himself if he dropped a hint or a comment like, 'I've noticed some suspicious things in Manny's dressing room, but i was kept away from Manny at the time.' Out of spite...but nothing of the sort since. The lack of urgency is really the main reason.

Floyd and Floyd Mayweather Sr had multiple fighters test positive for banned drugs and steroids, how come the ones claiming pac is on juice are not attacking Floyd Mayweather and his fighters?

I don't believe he did unless I see evidence that proves otherwise. Your assumption though that he would suddenly squeal if he did supply them is crazy. Why would he also implicate himself and not only ruin his own reputation and career, but also subject himself to the scrutiny of law for a bit of revenge?