Sergio Martinez to fight Damian Jonak

do any stand among you who deny that golovkin would liquify sergio's chin? Chin, Ribs, liver...Even if Maravilla's spent the last six months building a time machine, I'd still bet against him - (and I'm a big Maravilla fan) Segios bewildering mobility and lightening fast sallies would eventually be neutralised by GGGs ability to shut down the ring IMO. Sergio would be left nowhere to go but through GGG, and for all his heart, that's a battle he could never have won. The battle worn warrior that will be 2014 Maravilla however, will not go past 5 with Golovkin. If (and it's far from certain) Martinez fights Jonak, the purpose will be to see what Martinez has left in the tank, and future fights will be picked accordingly I'm guessing. My main hope is that HBO have promised Maravilla a big pay-day for a send off 'gainst GGG. The Janek fight, should it materialise. will determine what happens between now and then IMO, 'cos Maravilla can't afford to lose the lineal if he wants a GGG cashout.

do any stand among you who deny that golovkin would liquify sergio's chin? I'll comment after Sergio's next fight. A prime Sergio which we saw against Pavlik, Williams, Barker, Macklin and Chavez, that version would beat GGG on points. A close but clear UD. Now we just can't be sure.

do any stand among you who deny that golovkin would liquify sergio's chin?

So that's like Sergio's 5th "tune up" in a row now or something? :lol1: Sergio "The Tune Up" Martinez.

I don't think it's unreasonable right now for Martinez to test his health against a soft opponent. He may very well decide afterwards that he is not healthy enough to go on and retire. Give him a break.

team Martinez claimed Golovkin is not ready for Sergio. Sergio needs a tune up fight before Cotto/Mayweather lol...why not fight Gennady? p4p p*ssy

No he wasnt, Chavez has never even beaten a top 10 fighter, how could he be #2? He was top 5-6 at best Murray was ranked #10 Zbik was ranked #5 in ring magazine when Chavez fought him. Chavez was ranked #3, behind Sturm and Geale, when Martinez fought him.

Why is Sergio ducking Golovkin right now??? Sergio fans, you can't claim a guy 2 weight classes smaller than him is ducking him, all the while he's not even fighting the top challenges in his own weight class. You always manage to bring him up. Stop it please.

Why is Sergio ducking Golovkin right now??? Sergio fans, you can't claim a guy 2 weight classes smaller than him is ducking him, all the while he's not even fighting the top challenges in his own weight class. Always bringing up Mayweather out of nowhere. :thinking:

People is confused about the timeline. Before the Proksa fight Golovkin's trainer said they were not ready for Sergio Martinez. Before that everybody knew GGG as much as N'Dam N'Jikam. Pirog was and still is a nobody. He offered a fight in Russia for the same money Sergio does in USA or Argentina. The Murray fight was an excuse to make a big fight in Argentina. IMO 2014 is the year in which Sergio must decide wether he retires, goes down to JMW or stays in MW and fights Golovkin.

You don't think Darren Barker was top 10 at the time? Come on. Even if he wasn't at the time, he has since gone on to prove all his doubters wrong and beaten the best titlist not named Golovkin. Sometimes champions catch challengers on the way up. Barker was a good fighter on the way up, just not good enough for Martinez. Who else should Martinez have fought since 08/09? He's fought everybody that has mattered in that span of time. The GGG craze only started last year, his only been on HBO what...12 months? 3 or 4 fights? How many of them have been against world ranked middleweights? Macklin, who else? At a stretch Proksa, AT S STRETCH. How people can claim Martinez is ducking GGG is a joke, Martinez has been out injured while GGG has been on the rise, the fight could not have happened when Martinez fought Murray, simply because Murray deserved it more. In my opinion Murray had beaten Sturm, better than any name on GGG's resume, until Golov finally got in the ring with Macklin. How anyone can deny Martinez his place as THE man at 160 is beyond me. Darren Barker was nobody when he fought Martinez. He was a Euro level fighter. There was absolutely no reason to consider him top 10 at that time. He was a cherry pick, a terrible cherry pick, and to pretend otherwise is hindsight, pure and simple.

Wasn't Chavez Jr. ranked 2 at MW going into their fight with Strum at 1? I feel like that's what they were ranked. Was Junior ranked too high? Probably, but he took on the highest available MW and fought another top 10 contender coming off an injury. No he wasnt, Chavez has never even beaten a top 10 fighter, how could he be #2? He was top 5-6 at best Murray was ranked #10

Why is Sergio ducking Golovkin right now??? Sergio fans, you can't claim a guy 2 weight classes smaller than him is ducking him, all the while he's not even fighting the top challenges in his own weight class. I don't think I've seen one post in this entire thread saying about Floyd ducking Sergio.

Darren Barker was top 10? You don't think Darren Barker was top 10 at the time? Come on. Even if he wasn't at the time, he has since gone on to prove all his doubters wrong and beaten the best titlist not named Golovkin. Sometimes champions catch challengers on the way up. Barker was a good fighter on the way up, just not good enough for Martinez. Who else should Martinez have fought since 08/09? He's fought everybody that has mattered in that span of time. The GGG craze only started last year, his only been on HBO what...12 months? 3 or 4 fights? How many of them have been against world ranked middleweights? Macklin, who else? At a stretch Proksa, AT S STRETCH. How people can claim Martinez is ducking GGG is a joke, Martinez has been out injured while GGG has been on the rise, the fight could not have happened when Martinez fought Murray, simply because Murray deserved it more. In my opinion Murray had beaten Sturm, better than any name on GGG's resume, until Golov finally got in the ring with Macklin. How anyone can deny Martinez his place as THE man at 160 is beyond me.

I knew this would happen. Sergio Martinez is the biggest piece of chicken shit walking the planet. He saw Chavez beat the absolute hell out of Vera and was so shaken at the demolition, he demanded Lou Di Bella get on a plane and find the finest East-European goatfarmer in all the land. Di Bella, being the hypocritical coward that he is, complied and found the goatfarmer to beat all goatfarmers.

Why is Sergio ducking Golovkin right now??? Sergio fans, you can't claim a guy 2 weight classes smaller than him is ducking him, all the while he's not even fighting the top challenges in his own weight class. I'm not a Sergio fan at all, most would probably say I'm a hater, but I'll give him this fight. He's been hurt, okay he gets this one comeback. If he doesn't get hurt again yet still somehow doesn't fight Golovkin, it's bullsh*t. There is no excuse whatsoever after his next fight except inability to fight or a loss.

Why is Sergio ducking Golovkin right now??? Sergio fans, you can't claim a guy 2 weight classes smaller than him is ducking him, all the while he's not even fighting the top challenges in his own weight class.

unless martinez plans to fight off hbo, this fight isn't happening. i really hope it's cotto or a murray rematch. i think everyone else is booked, vera might be fighting chavez jr. rubio and lee are supposedly looking to fight each other. barker/sturm is happening from what i remember reading about. not sure about golovkin, but i can see him on hbo fighting someone like mora or geale. maybe vera as well if the chavez rematch doesn't happen. can't wait to see maravilla back in action, hopefully he's able to overcome his injuries and get back into top shape. that golovkin showdown is the last thing that needs to be scratched off in his career (unless mayweather gives him a shot at 154 which i don't see happening).

So there were no better opponents at the time than Darren Barker and Martin Murray? Who? Go ahead and mention them. GGG hype is recent. Quillen? He wasnt on the radar. Beating Winky did nothing to his career. Dont start spitting out names to try to make a pint. People were hyping is Pirog with one win. A win that is nothing yet cause no one knows how good Jacob is or can be. At the moment Sergio fahced the competition you want to diss now, they were highly ranked in the division. Go and do your homework. Your trolling on non brits fighters is stupid.

Fights weren't similar at all. Defence is one of the scoring criteria. Another is clean punching and Murray dominated Sergio in that area too The early rounds of Martinez-Murray weren't too far off. Clean punching is a criteria. He did not dominate that stat for 12 rounds. Murray put a lot of his work in during those middle rounds.