Pretty interesting article
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1135177-floyd-mayweather-is-the-best-of-all-time-according-to-compubox-at-least
Floyd Mayweather Is the Best of All Time According to CompuBox
As the old saying goes, "numbers don't lie," and in the case of the self-proclaimed, greatest boxer of all time, Floyd Mayweather has the statistical numbers of CompuBox to back up his claim.
Going off the numbers—which CompuBox president Bob Cannobbio calculated by fighter's bouts in their prime—they clearly show that Mayweather is on another level, as far as his number of punches landed compared to punches landed on him.
Money May leads both of the main categories that CompuBox calculates by averaging a 46 percent connect rate, as opposed to an astonishing 16 percent punched landed by his opponents on the 42-0 pound-for-pound great.
Mayweather's overall plus/minus number is plus-30 percent—subtracting the amount a fighter is hit from the amount a fighter lands punches—far ahead of any other top fighter, regardless of weight class.
Comparing Mayweather to other top fighters shows that Mayweather is the most efficient fighter that we have ever seen.
The closest opponent of the current crop of top boxers is current super middleweight champ Andre Ward in second with a plus-15 plus/minus ratio, just half that of Money May.
The rest of the top six is as follows: Vitali Klitschko at plus-13 percent, Yuriokis Gamboa at plus-12 percent, Manny Pacquiao at plus-11 percent, Timothy Bradley at plus-eight percent and Nonito Donaire at plus-seven percent.
The fighter of the modern era who gets the most debate when talking about who is the P4P great with Mayweather is Pacquiao.
Do the CompuBox numbers back up Floyd Mayweather's greatest of all time claim?
Yes. Numbers are the best way to judge a fighter's worth.
No. Numbers can't tell you everything that goes on in the ring.
Pacquiao's power punch stat is 45.3 percent, just behind Mayweather's 47.8 percent, but Pacquiao gets hit more than Money May. A lot more.
Pac Man's opponents land punches on the Filipino fighter at an average of 33.6 percent, which means he takes more punishment than Money May who, as I stated before, gets hit by 16 percent of his opponents punches.
All this statistical evidence, along with Mayweather's unblemished record of 42-0 clearly shows that he is indeed the greatest fighter of the modern era and may also be the greatest of all time.
Compubox numbers show that legendary fighters of the past don't stand up to Mayweather with their statistical averages as well, as CompuBox calculated their scores by going back and watching tape of them in their primes.
Joe Louis is the closest with a plus-26 percent average, followed by Marvin Hagler with a plus-17 percent and Sugar Ray Leonard with a plus-13 percent. Roberto Duran with a plus-eight percent, Thomas Hearns with a plus-six percent and Muhammad Ali with a plus-four percent don't match up with Mayweather numbers-wise either.
The one fighter who many consider to be the best ever, Sugar Ray Robinson, didn't have any film of fights in his prime so he did not receive a number.
Sure the numbers can't tell the whole story as far who in fact is the greatest to ever take to the ring, but they have to mean something, and this will give Mayweather one more valid reason to keep on proclaiming that he is indeed the GOAT of boxing.
Some sanctioning bodies won't allow their belts to be held in combination with other belts... I believe the IBF forces you to drop their belt or the other. So how can anyone be undisputed champion of the world by with your set of standards ?
It's not MY standards. It's the standards by which undisputed champions have always been determined. Wlad gets to keep his belts, and the only reason he isn't undisputed is because he won't try for his brother's belt, for obvious reasons. If you unify but get stripped, you can still be considered undisputed.
Undisputed champion means there are no other champions to dispute your claim. There are other world champions at both welterweight and junior middleweight who dispute Mayweather's claim.
Now people want to change the meaning of undisputed champion for this man.
Some sanctioning bodies won't allow their belts to be held in combination with other belts... I believe the IBF forces you to drop their belt or the other. So how can anyone be undisputed champion of the world by with your set of standards ?
Just because Floyd is fighting in this era, shouldnt knock him from a certain position ATG. The skills that he has and the way he makes fighters look silly is second to none.
Your thinking of "Lineal". Not undisputed.
This is the criteria for undisputed champion:
Lineal champion is the recognized division champion. You get it by beating the current lineal champion or a lineage is created when the #1 and #2 ranked fighters face off.
you're right
numbers don't lie....but compubox numbers are inaccurate. everybody knows this.
Well they inaccurate across the board so it equals out , but I get it , Floyd is the only one thats inaccurate .
The game is getting very messed up with these two promotions not working together. Officially we wont see an undisputed champion for many many years.
When floyd is announced he is announced as the undisputed champion which technically he is, just doesnt have the belts that he was stripped of
In this day in age fighters get stripped all the time. No sanctioning body wants one fighter to hold all the belts. they lose money
Your thinking of "Lineal". Not undisputed.
This is the criteria for undisputed champion:
1920-1963, a boxer who held both the NYSAC and NBA (WBA) titles simultaneously.
1963–1983, a boxer who held both the WBA and WBC titles simultaneously.
1983–2003, a boxer who held the WBA, WBC, and IBF titles simultaneously.
2003–Present, a boxer who holds the WBA, WBC, IBF and WBO titles simultaneously.
Lineal champion is the recognized division champion. You get it by beating the current lineal champion or a lineage is created when the #1 and #2 ranked fighters face off.
LOL. Your telling me there are boxing fans who don't know what an undisputed champ is?
Undisputed champ: You hold all 4 major belts (WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO). It used to be 3 but the WBO got included at some point.
So many people talk out of their ass instead of reading and learning **** on their own. Even with the invention of Google these dudes STILL can't get it right.
The game is getting very messed up with these two promotions not working together. Officially we wont see an undisputed champion for many many years.
When floyd is announced he is announced as the undisputed champion which technically he is, just doesnt have the belts that he was stripped of
In this day in age fighters get stripped all the time. No sanctioning body wants one fighter to hold all the belts. they lose money
Its because we know who the undisputed champion is
I posted the meaning and some how im still arguing about it.
You won though ok Floyd is not the best in the division
I really hope you're a troll. I don't want to know that this kind of ignorance exists.
I posted two separate links, one telling what an undisputed champion is and the other listing every undisputed champion, and I'm still somehow arguing about it. WTF.
Undisputed. AS IN THERE ARE NO OTHER CHAMPIONS IN YOUR DIVISION THAT DISPUTE YOUR CLAIM. I suppose it's the fault of the sanctioning organizations and their retarded disallowing of uniting belts that people don't even know what an undisputed champion is.
Its because we know who the undisputed champion is
I posted the meaning and some how im still arguing about it.
You won though ok Floyd is not the best in the division
But once you retire you lose claim as the best and if you decide to return you must beat the man to be the man again. At that time it was Manny. Floyd didn't beat him so he has no claim of be the best at welterweight today.
Yep floyd is not the best
LOL. Your telling me there are boxing fans who don't know what an undisputed champ is?
Undisputed champ: You hold all 4 major belts (WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO). It used to be 3 but the WBO got included at some point.
So many people talk out of their ass instead of reading and learning **** on their own. Even with the invention of Google these dudes STILL can't get it right.
I posted two separate links, one telling what an undisputed champion is and the other listing every undisputed champion, and I'm still somehow arguing about it. WTF.
Undisputed. AS IN THERE ARE NO OTHER CHAMPIONS IN YOUR DIVISION THAT DISPUTE YOUR CLAIM. I suppose it's the fault of the sanctioning organizations and their retarded disallowing of uniting belts that people don't even know what an undisputed champion is.
LOL. Your telling me there are boxing fans who don't know what an undisputed champ is?
Undisputed champ: You hold all 4 major belts (WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO). It used to be 3 but the WBO got included at some point.
So many people talk out of their ass instead of reading and learning **** on their own. Even with the invention of Google these dudes STILL can't get it right.
This doesnt make sense...maybe to you, but if you read closely to your own words you even say that floyd was the man that retired.
He came back and is still the man
But once you retire you lose claim as the best and if you decide to return you must beat the man to be the man again. At that time it was Manny. Floyd didn't beat him so he has no claim of be the best at welterweight today.
It's not the same thing. There is a very clear way a fighter is recognized as undisputed champion. Floyd Mayweather does not fit that criteria. You're trying to change the rules of what an undisputed champion is. It's right there for you to read.
The best fighter in a division does not mean undisputed.
Ok man you are pretty dense
Dude the man retired on top.
What is wrong with you? are you really trying to argue that floyd is not the best at WW?
It's not the same thing. There is a very clear way a fighter is recognized as undisputed champion. Floyd Mayweather does not fit that criteria. You're trying to change the rules of what an undisputed champion is. It's right there for you to read.
The best fighter in a division does not mean undisputed.
By each boxing organization. AS IN THE WBC, WBA, AND IBF. Who do those organizations recognize as champion? THE FIGHTER HOLDING THEIR TITLE. Undisputed champions are champions who hold every major belt, or did and were stripped afterwards. Mayweather does not and has not been stripped. He is not undisputed champion in either division. Notice how Mayweather is not listed as undisputed champion in that second link? Notice the explanation for why those listed were listed?
Dude the man retired on top.
What is wrong with you? are you really trying to argue that floyd is not the best at WW?
No the top dog is Timothy Bradley, I don't care what any dumb writer or fan says, Tim beat Manny who was the man, who took over after Floyd decided to retire, you got to beat the man to be the man and that was Manny. Floyd can't just skip ahead of the line because he beat Robert Guerrero.
This doesnt make sense...maybe to you, but if you read closely to your own words you even say that floyd was the man that retired.
He came back and is still the man
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undisputed_champion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_undisputed_boxing_champions
I swear, sometimes...
You know that Floyd has been stripped of titles right?
He has beaten every one there has been in that weight class or did you think when Bradley and pac came up. Floyd was nowhere in sight.
Come on man you are reaching bro
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undisputed_champion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_undisputed_boxing_champions
I swear, sometimes...
You know that Floyd has been stripped of titles right?
He has beaten every one there has been in that weight class or did you think when Bradley and pac came up. Floyd was nowhere in sight.
Come on man you are reaching bro
In professional boxing, the undisputed champion of a weight class is a boxer who is recognized as the world champion at that class by each boxing organization
It says recognized...dude come on each organization has who they know to be the champion. It doesnt mean they have to hold on to all the belts.
You are reaching
By each boxing organization. AS IN THE WBC, WBA, AND IBF. Who do those organizations recognize as champion? THE FIGHTER HOLDING THEIR TITLE. Undisputed champions are champions who hold every major belt, or did and were stripped afterwards. Mayweather does not and has not been stripped. He is not undisputed champion in either division. Notice how Mayweather is not listed as undisputed champion in that second link? Notice the explanation for why those listed were listed?