would Floyd Money Mayweather Be undefeated if he had fought 15 years earlier than he did say starting his career in 1982-3-4?
Now I do not mean from a purely competition standpoint because it is clear that the divisions he has boxed in were clearly stronger in the 80's and 90's I think had he fought that competition every 4-6 months he would have been bound to have a let down though I am not saying any of the fighters from that era are clearly better than Floyd
What I am trying to ask is about his style would it have garnered win after win like it does today? the judges were clearly judging diferently then I have often said that if it were not for Sweet pea Floyd would have more than 1 lose by now for instance Pernell outpunched outlanded and with a higher accuracy than Jose Louis Ramerez, and Julio Ceasar Chavez and he out punched out landed with a higher accuracy and scored a knock down against De La Hoya and lost by very large margins on all three cards to De La Hoya and of course drew with chavez and a split decision with Ramerez one card even saw it 117-111 and he clearly dominated every round
the reason I ask is because Floyd throws about half the punches as Whitaker with about the same accuracy the fact is every time whitaker fought in Vegas or Texas or Reno the scores were much closer than they should have been
this is not some Floyd Depreciation thread so don't go and skin me for being a hater I do appreciate his craft and hard work I was just wondering if I am the only one that see's it this way I think he would have lost a couple of close fights back then just because the judges did not appreciate that style as they do today
yes , he would be ..thats becuase he would know like he does now who not to fight ......
He wouldn't be undefeated if he fought the fighters he ducked of THIS era
Prime Cotto
Margarito
Casamayor
Kostya Tszyu
Williams
Pacquiao
etc
let alone other more talented eras. Actually he might. He would've cherry picked them to an undefeated record. Like he's currently doing
I honestly believe that had his fights been judged by the standards of yesteryear the same fighters and same fights would have been seen as loses not a whole lot of them but a few examples would be De La Hoya and Cotto and I do believe he won those fights but they would have certainly have been judged differently then
He wouldn't be undefeated if he fought the fighters he ducked of THIS era
Prime Cotto
Margarito
Casamayor
Kostya Tszyu
Williams
Pacquiao
etc
let alone other more talented eras. Actually he might. He would've cherry picked them to an undefeated record. Like he's currently doing
Yeah I agree there were an abundance of supreme offensive fighters in that era JJC SR, Meldrick Taylor, Terry Noris, Azumah Nelson, Antonio Esparragoza, and many many more in that era Pernell Whitaker was considered a defensive fighter and he routinely threw 75+ punches a round for twelve rounds if that is defensive well he did not get hit all that much but a defensive fighter does not throw 75+ punches /round :boxing: I honestly think he would have changed his style after a lose or two and maybe even with loses on his record he would be rated higher than he is today as far as ATG fighters is concerned after 1 lose he would have fought any and everyone and had a much better Resume as he does now
No, he would not be undefeated in that era. I don't think the pot shotting he does would be respected by the judges back then. Especially when you had great offensive fighters like Chavez, Sr and Meldrick Taylor.
Not sure he generates a lot of money that may swing some decisions. Depends who promoted him. as well I guess.
Lol why cant boxing just be fair and not have to worry abouts judges. smh.
Would Floyd Sr. be undefeated if he fought in Jr.'s time?
I doubt it very very much but I am thinking more of stylistically how the judges would have viewed Floyd JR in the 80's and 90's Did Pernell loose those fights more due to boxing politics than the way the judges saw the fights or maybe you guys see those fights I named as correctly scored