Round 1 could have gone either way, I gave it to Chavez.
Round 2 was clear Vera.
Round 3 was close, I gave it to Chavez.
Round 4 was clear Vera.
Round 5 could go either way, gave it to Chavez.
Round 6 was clear Chavez.
Round 7 was close but clear Chavez.
Round 8 was clear Vera.
Round 9 was dominant for Vera.
Round 10 could go either way, I gave it to Chavez.
I have it 6-4 Chavez, but Vera's rounds were all clear, and Chavez only had 2 clear rounds. That's kind of weird on my part to have so many close rounds for Chavez, but I liked his harder punches more when it was close.
Funny hearing how biased Ward was for Chavez Junior. He really wants that money.
Good card man. I scored the fight the exact same way.:boxing::boxing::boxing:
For five rounds at least, I thought Julio Sweet Pea Chavez managed to slip and block the majority of Vera's punches. I don't care that Vera was aggressive if he wasn't landing much cleanly compared to Chavez. One Chavez punch was worth more than a Vera flurry to me. There were long stretches were Vera threw and threw, and not much landed. I'm not going to give Vera credit for that even if Julio was inactive as fuck during those stretches. I'm a quality over quantity guy.
had it 96-94 jcc jr
i gave chavez the 8th bc he landed great shots even tho vera outlanded him 13-20. but this was a swing round, couldve went either way
vera did a good job bullying the bigger guy but he fell for that feint jab-left hook too often. even buckled a few times
as far as stevenson, he's a monster. hopkins would def be eating leather if they fight nd vs kovalev would be fireworks, superman prob kos him, lefts too strong
You know you've seen this happen many times in Boxing and let me tell you why.
2 things that a LOT of BOXING fans do is cheer for the underdog midway through the fight when the underdog is doing great even though he has no business being in the same ring as his opponent. This has happened many times to people because we naturally want the underdog to win. We always cheer against the Yankees, Lakers, Mayweathers, Patriots etc
Another thing is that casual boxing fans always tend to overrate power punchers over anything else. We saw that recently happen in the Garcia/Matthysse fight. Even prefight people were making up reasons saying Garcia was scared because he didn't sign. Then he was forced to sign after the fight was made.
Juniors punches had more impact and power to them. Vera forced the fight and to me he was effective enough to win rounds. I give credit for the aggressor as long as his aggresion has meaning even if its just off setting his opponents balance so as to not be able to respond!! Punches that land on the arms and shoulders that cause balance problems COUNT!!!
Vera won the fight by a point or two and once again Junior was exposed as a novice who can't even jab effectively! If he just put his jab out and punched in combination behind it he would have stopped Vera late!!!
Junior is a joke!!! No dedication and a waiste of talent!!!! Ray
Boxing isn't a math problem and questionable statistics typically don't tell the entire story. Even so, the stats you're presenting make a better argument for Vera. Chavez landed the "harder punches"....according to you? Were you feeling both men's punches to factually state that? Looking at both men's faces after the fight told a different story; where as Chavez took more visible damage and Vera barely had a bruise. With all that said, I felt that Vera won the fight because boxing is scored on a round-by-round criteria and he efficiently won more rounds in my opinion. I have no problem with you thinking that Chavez might have won, but you're presenting a fallacious argument.
I'm with you, Chavez was throwing one shot at a time and he did seems to connect with more force, when he did, but Vera controlled the pace, won more rounds and make Chavez fight backwards, Jr needs to take this business seriously
I thought Vera won 6 rounds. Chavez barely even threw anything. I'll give a guy a round by landing one or two big punches if his opponent is barely landing anything, but Vera outworked him consistently.
Round 1 could have gone either way, I gave it to Chavez.
Round 2 was clear Vera.
Round 3 was close, I gave it to Chavez.
Round 4 was clear Vera.
Round 5 could go either way, gave it to Chavez.
Round 6 was clear Chavez.
Round 7 was close but clear Chavez.
Round 8 was clear Vera.
Round 9 was dominant for Vera.
Round 10 could go either way, I gave it to Chavez.
I have it 6-4 Chavez, but Vera's rounds were all clear, and Chavez only had 2 clear rounds. That's kind of weird on my part to have so many close rounds for Chavez, but I liked his harder punches more when it was close.
Funny hearing how biased Ward was for Chavez Junior. He really wants that money.
I haven't seen the fight but from what I'm reading here, it seems it was damn close and could have gone either way. I think Chavez v Ward is a certainty for 2014.
Boxing isn't a math problem and questionable statistics typically don't tell the entire story. Even so, the stats you're presenting make a better argument for Vera. Chavez landed the "harder punches"....according to you? Were you feeling both men's punches to factually state that? Looking at both men's faces after the fight told a different story; where as Chavez took more visible damage and Vera barely had a bruise. With all that said, I felt that Vera won the fight because boxing is scored on a round-by-round criteria.
rd by rd i still think chavez took it
he countered vers sloppy aggression
with sharp counters that towards the later rds stunned him
course fights arnt math
and fights arent scored on face damage either
im basing the harder shots on the fact that veras head would snap back
after gettin hit he appeared stunned
his punches lost speed and his legs were all over the place
what are you basing vers harder shots on?
final stats
chaves threw roughly 330 to veras 740s
chavez laneded 125 to veras 180
so vers threw an extra 410 to land 55 more punches
while we can all agree chavez were the more authoritative sharper n and cleaner punches
chavez was clearly out to box in this fight
punch connect perct was 40% to 25% perecnt
i dont get what everyones not seeing
veras agression was not effective
chavez countered sharp and then hurt him towards the end
his punches had more effect
he landed the better shots
maybe if he had red hair youd all woulda liked it better
LOL
Boxing isn't a math problem and questionable statistics typically don't tell the entire story. Even so, the stats you're presenting make a better argument for Vera. Chavez landed the "harder punches"....according to you? Were you feeling both men's punches to factually state that? Looking at both men's faces after the fight told a different story; where as Chavez took more visible damage and Vera barely had a bruise. With all that said, I felt that Vera won the fight because boxing is scored on a round-by-round criteria and he efficiently won more rounds in my opinion. I have no problem with you thinking that Chavez might have won, but you're presenting a fallacious argument.