How come you never hear of this Chris John fellow? (48-0, beat Marquez)

Because Chris John is too boring a name to promote, it's not jazzy enough. It sounds like something from the bible. Promoters won't go near it.

He never Fought Gamboa, Salido, Juanma Lopez, Mikey Garcia or any of the top guys at 126 in the last few years so thas why

More legit record than Spaddy.

That's untrue. It's just an urban legend perpetuated by low-mentality band-wagon jumpers, which grows the more Marquez complains. According to him he's NEVER been beaten. Those who "think Marquez won" didn't see the fight. It was attended by only 2 Western boxing writers. They both wrote that John won well. and won comfortably. One was Scott Mallon of RING and he scored it 116-110 which was about what the judges had it. I think the other was Steve Kim who said he was there on a vacation and saw the fight. He had it about the same score. I've written about this damn thing at least 3=4 times. it's about time these imbeciles got the message. This is a good post. The problem is, I think that people have a hard time understanding how a multi-weight, World champion like Pacquiao can't get past Marquez while a unknown Title holder like John can, an did. It comes down to the styles, CJ is alot more technical an has a better range of skills (than Pac). He gets boxing behind a jab where a counter puncher like Marquez can't really set up to land anything hard or clean. The main problem with Chris is that he has no real stopping power and always gasses in the 2nd half of his fights.

he beat marquez i watched the fight twice jmm got points deducted causing him the fight

Plus he appears to have defended the WBA Super World featherweight title 17 times. He is only 34 years old, and as I said, he beat Marquez back in 2006. http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=78475&cat=boxer How come I never heard of him until looking up boxrec? Plus the fact that he is near Marciano's record. I haven't seen too many of his fights but he doesn't seem to have a "fan friendly" style and plus hes making good money right now. No reason to come here and possibly lose then lose out on money.

IDC who you've fought, it's pretty damn difficult to go 48-0. He is a pretty skilled fighter, mostly an outboxer counterpuncher who had a toss up with Marquez. Also had to fights with Juarez I forget which one almost got himself KTFO. Would love to see John vs Rigo or Donaire. Yes. So would I. If he beats either one, even with a weight advantage, then we know he is for real.

IDC who you've fought, it's pretty damn difficult to go 48-0. He is a pretty skilled fighter, mostly an outboxer counterpuncher who had a toss up with Marquez. Also had to fights with Juarez I forget which one almost got himself KTFO. Would love to see John vs Rigo or Donaire.

We heard about him, alright. We also watched how he went life&death with Stas Merdov back in 2011.

MAAAAN you ripped into them Marquez **** suckers who have never seen the fight. I'm with you a 100% and I'm a JMM fan but John has done VERY well in the division. Sadly it's the usual, uneducated, moronic case of, "he ain't fought in the US, so he must be ****e" For better or worse the United States and England are still the center of the boxing world. Boxing (not Muay Thai, Aikido or other martial arts) is an Anglo-American sport and the biggest fights are still held in those two countries. Now we all see that boxing is spreading around the world and in a few years/decades there will be many centers of boxing as the popularity of the sport spreads and as broadcasting an event becomes easier and cheaper. Still. Right now. The US (and to a lesser extent England) is the center of the boxing world regarding big fights. If you want to be known as a great basketball player you come to the NBA even though there are leagues around the world. Baseball has spread around the world and some leagues such as Japans have produced such great talent that playing in Japan is no longer considered a minor-league. John, as did Calzaghe, have not faced the best in their division. It may be that they have a good thing going and are happy with it. Good for them. But as a fan I want to see the best 3 or 4 fighters in a division fight each other. When one fighter grabs a belt and doesn't fight other titlists I question their record. But maybe that's just me.

He's relatively unknown because he fights mostly in Asia. You know Asia, the new mecca of boxing. Incidentally, I believe that was a legit win against Marquez.

Don't believe everything you read. It was a robbery. I've watched the fight several times and John didn't win the fight even with the two point deductions. Even the ref knew John was losing the fight and he was trying to save him by penalizing Marquez. Luckily for John the judges were kind to him. The only thing that made that fight close was the two points that were deducted. To John's credit he made some of the rounds close, I guess the judges awarded him every swing round. Marquez was the one pressing the fight and John was trying to box and counter, but JMM was doing the better work through out the fight And surely we don't believe yours.

A competive fight and win over Marquez shows what level he's on, and average competion it may be, but you've still gotta be damn good to also not lose in 51 professional fights. He's underrated imo, and would do well to move up.

Can Bob Arum or GBP get him to MSG New York City to fight Donaire or Mares?

That's untrue. It's just an urban legend perpetuated by low-mentality band-wagon jumpers, which grows the more Marquez complains. According to him he's NEVER been beaten. Those who "think Marquez won" didn't see the fight. It was attended by only 2 Western boxing writers. They both wrote that John won well. and won comfortably. One was Scott Mallon of RING and he scored it 116-110 which was about what the judges had it. I think the other was Steve Kim who said he was there on a vacation and saw the fight. He had it about the same score. I've written about this damn thing at least 3=4 times. it's about time these imbeciles got the message. MAAAAN you ripped into them Marquez **** suckers who have never seen the fight. I'm with you a 100% and I'm a JMM fan but John has done VERY well in the division. Sadly it's the usual, uneducated, moronic case of, "he ain't fought in the US, so he must be ****e"

He beat Juarez by a mile in both fights in my opinion. He is a skillful quick fisted boxer who is hard to hit clean. He also almost got knocked out in the 12th round of both fights. Of course you left that out about the 2 Juarez fights.

thats the buggiest load of crap that I've read in a while duran, Arguello, Chavez, Tszyu, are all first class hall of famers. (none of those guys are american) if you're a great fighter you will get inducted into the hall of fame. simple as that........ I don't think you read or understood what I posted. I didn't say they wouldn't induct foreign fighters, I said that foreign fighters don't place the same emphasis upon it as US boxers i.e. they're not really all that bothered. "Hall of Fames" are by in large an American sporting concept, something commentators talk about across all their sports. No one talks about them elsewhere or at least, to nowhere near the same extent.

Don't believe everything you read. It was a robbery. I've watched the fight several times and John didn't win the fight even with the two point deductions. Even the ref knew John was losing the fight and he was trying to save him by penalizing Marquez. Luckily for John the judges were kind to him. The only thing that made that fight close was the two points that were deducted. To John's credit he made some of the rounds close, I guess the judges awarded him every swing round. Marquez was the one pressing the fight and John was trying to box and counter, but JMM was doing the better work through out the fight I don't know much about him but I've read a few of his interviews. He said about 3 years ago that his fee for fighting at home is a minimum of $500,00, and for abroad a min of $600,000. He said that he would fight anywhere in the world if his fee was right. And he beat Marquez pretty well as he's a very good boxer. He's fought a few times in Japan and Australia, also 2 fights against Rocky Juarez in Vegas (I think). He was nearly robbed in the first fight and cleared that all up in the second.He beat Juarez by a mile in both fights in my opinion. He is a skillful quick fisted boxer who is hard to hit clean.

Don't believe everything you read. It was a robbery. I've watched the fight several times and John didn't win the fight even with the two point deductions. Even the ref knew John was losing the fight and he was trying to save him by penalizing Marquez. Luckily for John the judges were kind to him. The only thing that made that fight close was the two points that were deducted. To John's credit he made some of the rounds close, I guess the judges awarded him every swing round. Marquez was the one pressing the fight and John was trying to box and counter, but JMM was doing the better work through out the fightAfter watching the fight for the first time I totally agree with you.

Thanks for the video. I thought Marquez clearly won by a wide margin. He was the aggressor coming forward the whole fight. He landed more punches and better punches in most rounds. Chris John is a good fighter but Marquez is much better.They had John winning the fight by many points. The only possible way Marquez could win that fight was by KO. Even then they probably would have DQed Marquez for punching too hard. It sounded like even the Indonesian crowd started cheering for Marquez as the fight went on.