I haven't been too active on here lately, so don't know if this has been posted.
http://fighthype.com/news/article15267.html
If Mayweather fights Khan next in May, I can't defend that. Terrible fight.
But seriously, I hope Floyd fights Garcia next, so Khan looks like a dip s**t for passing on the Alexander title fight.
Casamayor still around?
This is nothing like the Bradley situation so why try to compare it..In fact Khan's career is nowhere near what Timmy's career is at the moment..
Anyway,I was not trying to bash Amir,just was agreeing that he should fight somebody of note..Bradley had fought a actual WW and the top fighter in his div before signing to TR to try and get a shot at the big dog..
Khan has loss back to back and had two sub par performances against c level opposition..Not the same situation at all..
I thought we were talking about when Khan was supposed to fight Bradley? Do you even know what you're talking about any more?
Look, however you feel is fine with me. IMO Khan needed to beat a Bradley to prove to me he could beat top tier fighters.
I agreed with tim not taking khan fight to take the TR deal to eventually get a manny fight.
I agree khan shouldn't fight devon if he has a floyd deal already because you dont risk big paydays like that. That doesnt mean I think he earned a floyd fight and as such I likely will not purchase it.
The khan/floyd fight has more credibility if khan defeated a quality ww first.
He hasn't proven he can beat top tier fighers, not he isn't proven. It matters for the purposes of this discussion.
Khan is a star in Engalnd, which is like being the world's tallest midget. Since khan still hasn't proven to me or many others that he can beat a top tier fighter, fans are voicing their displeasure with the fight. We will also voice it when it comes time to purchase the ppv.
Agree with what you post about GBP. I wouldn't fault khan for going straight to floyd. But that wont make anyone think Khan is anything more than the guy Prescott and Danny smoked rather easily. Guys like that don't deserve to fight the best p4p fighter in the world.
I thought we were talking about when Khan was supposed to fight Bradley? Do you even know what you're talking about any more?
I dont agree with it at all but so many on NSB worry about other peoples money and this is one of those fights.
Imean everyone jumping on the cotto v martinez train just cause its a money fight. Cotto just lost 2 then beat the great delvin to get shot at MW champ but khan fighting floyd is a joke?
good point the khan mayweather fight is going to happen at some point might well get it over with
If you honestly think Khan would give Floyd problems you're crazy. He would flash his speed for about 1 round before he gets timed and countered for the rest of the fight or until his chin gives out. Danny has everything to do with this cause he beat a legit opponent. He's actually earned a money fight. Khan scrapped a BS decision in his hometown.
guys calm down on the garcia train hes not going any where let him atleast get his feet under him at 147 before he fights mayweather.
I dont agree with it at all but so many on NSB worry about other peoples money and this is one of those fights.
Imean everyone jumping on the cotto v martinez train just cause its a money fight. Cotto just lost 2 then beat the great delvin to get shot at MW champ but khan fighting floyd is a joke?
He's not proven to you? And why would you think that your opinion means anything?
I keep pointing out the money because that's all that matters. Maybe he needed to prove something to you - your opinion doesn't really mean sh1t though does it? Khan didn't need to fight Bradley - he was already a star and GBP were already grooming him for the Floyd fight with or without Tim Bradley lol
He hasn't proven he can beat top tier fighers, not he isn't proven. It matters for the purposes of this discussion.
Khan is a star in Engalnd, which is like being the world's tallest midget. Since khan still hasn't proven to me or many others that he can beat a top tier fighter, fans are voicing their displeasure with the fight. We will also voice it when it comes time to purchase the ppv.
Agree with what you post about GBP. I wouldn't fault khan for going straight to floyd. But that wont make anyone think Khan is anything more than the guy Prescott and Danny smoked rather easily. Guys like that don't deserve to fight the best p4p fighter in the world.
Made guerrero floyd's mando. typo. my bad.
haven't disagreed that khan brought money so why do you keep pointing this out? fact is Manny brings much more.
Khan has not proven to me he can beat a top tier guy. IMO, he needed Bradley to prove this. Hatton had beaten Kosta and hadn't lost to inferor fighters like Khan had. I'll give you the Petersen win like I said.
He's not proven to you? And why would you think that your opinion means anything?
I keep pointing out the money because that's all that matters. Maybe he needed to prove something to you - your opinion doesn't really mean sh1t though does it? Khan didn't need to fight Bradley - he was already a star and GBP were already grooming him for the Floyd fight with or without Tim Bradley lol
2,000,000 pounds = 3,192,400 dollars by the current money exchange rate so my point remains the same although I believe boxingscene is correct in listing it as dollars. You call Bradley a nobody but he is a bigger earner and a higher ranked fighter than Khan and Carl Froch. Learn something kid.
http://www.tsmplug.com/richlist/carl-froch-net-worth/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/boxing/9847515/Carl-Froch-tells-rival-Mikkel-Kessler-to-expect-defeat-when-they-meet-in-London-in-May.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/boxing/10065969/Carl-Froch-slams-George-Groves-and-Nathan-Cleverly-as-disloyal-for-sparring-with-Mikkel-Kessler-ahead-of-their-world-title-showdown.html
£5m shared purse. Sorry you're wrong.
Carl Froch is basically a nobody in America. I don't deny that. That doesn't mean Bradley is some kind of star LOL...Bradley fans are so delusional. The guy is an opponent.
Good for him. That doesn't detract from my point. You argue it then say "who gives a fuk". Ok then :wave:
Ortiz was the champion so I don't see how he was Floyd's mandatory? What the hell are you talking about? Credibility don't mean sh1t if you are bringing money. Khan had credibility, he'd beat Kotelnik, Maidana and then Judah. He was considered the no1 at 140 after Bradley ducked him.
Ricky Hatton got the Floyd fight after being an old Castillo at 140. Why? Cos he brought the UK money. Fuk outta here with this credibility sh1t. Khan did not need Bradley whatsoever. If he'd not got robbed against Lamont PEDerson, he'd be fighting Floyd - no question.
Made guerrero floyd's mando. typo. my bad.
haven't disagreed that khan brought money so why do you keep pointing this out? fact is Manny brings much more.
Khan has not proven to me he can beat a top tier guy. IMO, he needed Bradley to prove this. Hatton had beaten Kosta and hadn't lost to inferor fighters like Khan had. I'll give you the Petersen win like I said.
I can show you a multitude of links that says £s. They were fighting in the UK and therefore being paid in pounds you retard.
What does Carl Froch-Kessler have to do with this thread? You are reaching pretty far.
2,000,000 pounds = 3,192,400 dollars by the current money exchange rate so my point remains the same although I believe boxingscene is correct in listing it as dollars. You call Bradley a nobody but he is a bigger earner and a higher ranked fighter than Khan and Carl Froch. Learn something kid.
LOL. Who gives a ****? He's made $12 million and still counting.
Good for him. That doesn't detract from my point. You argue it then say "who gives a fuk". Ok then :wave:
Originally Posted by Big Dunn
Same ting with Bradley-if TR tells you we'll give you a 2 fight deal-Casamayor at 147 and then Manny-you take that over a khan fight every day of the week.
What does the word IF mean Dirk? I mean I get that you are upset peopleare crapping on Khan, but don't purposely act like IF is a defin itve statement.
From a ppv selling point we agree. from a credibility of opponent standpoint we don't. Ortiz and Guerrero beat Beto and berto/aydin at ww not JWW. they were top ranked contenders. Beating them made them Floyd's mandatory.
Come on man its like you are being disingenuous simply because its han.
Ortiz was the champion so I don't see how he was Floyd's mandatory? What the hell are you talking about? Credibility don't mean sh1t if you are bringing money. Khan had credibility, he'd beat Kotelnik, Maidana and then Judah. He was considered the no1 at 140 after Bradley ducked him.
Ricky Hatton got the Floyd fight after being an old Castillo at 140. Why? Cos he brought the UK money. Fuk outta here with this credibility sh1t. Khan did not need Bradley whatsoever. If he'd not got robbed against Lamont PEDerson, he'd be fighting Floyd - no question.
http://www.boxingscene.com/froch-kessler-rematch-close-2-million-going-both--60661
You should know i check my facts Dirk. You need to stop living in the land of make believe and realize Bradley is bigger than Khan, **** he's bigger than Froch as well. Listen and learn son.
I can show you a multitude of links that says £s. They were fighting in the UK and therefore being paid in pounds you retard.
What does Carl Froch-Kessler have to do with this thread? You are reaching pretty far.
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Originally Posted by Big Dunn
Same ting with Bradley-if TR tells you we'll give you a 2 fight deal-Casamayor at 147 and then Manny-you take that over a khan fight every day of the week.
What does the word IF mean Dirk? I mean I get that you are upset people are crapping on a floyd/khan fight, but don't purposely act like IF is a definitve statement.
Not really. Who did Ortiz or Guerrero beat? Berto? LOL....Khan was already a star in the UK and he brought UK PPV to the table. He did not need to face Bradley whatsoever, let alone offer him HALF of that said UK PPV.
From a ppv selling point we agree. from a credibility of opponent standpoint we don't. Ortiz and Guerrero beat Beto and berto/aydin at ww not JWW. they were top ranked contenders. Beating them made them Floyd's mandatory.
Come on man its like you are being disingenuous simply because its han.
He gets paid when he fights a big name - who doesn't? What he earns on his own is not any better than anyone else. He's an opponent for a big name. He isn't a big name on his own.
LOL. Who gives a ****? He's made $12 million and still counting.
http://www.boxingscene.com/froch-kessler-rematch-close-2-million-going-both--60661
You should know i check my facts Dirk. You need to stop living in the land of make believe and realize Bradley is bigger than Khan, **** he's bigger than Froch as well. Listen and learn son.
Casamayor - $1,025,000
Pacquiao - $5,000,000
Provodnikov - $1,750,000
Marquez - $4,100,000
Total - $11,875,000
Damn I wish I was a nobody.
He gets paid when he fights a big name - who doesn't? What he earns on his own is not any better than anyone else. He's an opponent for a big name. He isn't a big name on his own.
Yes, cotto was offered a CW fight. I thought that was later on.
I am almost sure when tim signed to TR he had a tune up then the manny fight. TR paid him a ridiculous amount for the Casamayor fight. Not a 2 fight deal, a 2 fight plan.
I think he made the right move, just as I think khan would be making the right move.
HBO stupidly guaranteed both Bradley and Alexander million dollar paydays after they fought each other. That's why Bradley ducked Khan cos he figured he could fight a bum for $1.2m or whatever instead of a dangerous fight like Khan for over $2m.
There was no 2 fight plan. Bradley was the last resort for Pacquaio after the big names fell through. He was brought in by Arum to be in the line of TR opponents to feed Pacquiao.
Casamayor - $1,025,000
Pacquiao - $5,000,000
Provodnikov - $1,750,000
Marquez - $4,100,000
Total - $11,875,000
Damn I wish I was a nobody.
Originally Posted by Big Dunn
Same ting with Bradley-if TR tells you we'll give you a 2 fight deal-Casamayor at 147 and then Manny-you take that over a khan fight every day of the week.
What does the word IF mean Dirk? I mean I get that you are upset peopleare crapping on Khan, but don't purposely act like IF is a defin itve statement.
Bradley is such a nobody that he's making a guaranteed 4 million to fight Marquez. twice as much as Carl Froch and Kessler were guaranteed for their so called euro superfight. Why is that Dirk?
I don't know what Carl Froch and Mikkel Kessler have to do with anything but I believe they were paid in pounds sterling which is stronger than the dollar so you may be wrong there. The relevance? Beats me. You're a strange little man.
I would disagree to an extent. from a money making position-no Khan has a fanbase and didn't need Bradley. But he does need a win over a top tier opponent.
He has a few 2nd tier level wns-zab, maidana, paulie, even petersen if you want to count that. I think a Bradey win would give him his 1st top tier win, IMO.
Not really. Who did Ortiz or Guerrero beat? Berto? LOL....Khan was already a star in the UK and he brought UK PPV to the table. He did not need to face Bradley whatsoever, let alone offer him HALF of that said UK PPV.
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