Rios training with Ariza added alot of definition

I really couldn't care less what he looks like. "Ripped" does not mean in shape. Is he a better fighter now than before he started camp?

hes giving him steriods so what ' and if u think otherwise your an idiot

The Roberto Duran that beat Barkley looked like garbage versus the Duran that beat SRL. Duran was never the same. But obviously had success. No doubt being clean koed, unconscious like that, definitely takes a piece out of you. No doubt about it. Especially at that age. It's not as bad if you are in your early or mid twenties, but the older one is, the more it takes out of you. BUT, the thing is, even a PAC that is operating below 10%, or whatever that KO took out of him, he is still going to kill Rios. For christ's sake Rios is just a sacrificial lamb. The Floyd fight will never happen. So Pac doesn't need to be as close to prime as possible. He can just beat 4-5 more dudes, and call it a day. pacqauio himself was stopped nearly cold twice early in his career, in exactly the manner in which hearns stopped duran. if you've ever actaully seen the fight, you'd know that duran was only "unconscious" briefly. he stood up with a bit of help, and was trying to get up almost immediately after the punch hearns landed. duran looked not just good, but great against barkley. he wasn't the guy he was at 135 when he was even at 147. guys deteriorate. duran was able to use his craft as his physical abilities deteriorated. his reflexes were still terrific at that stage, and he could still roll punches and come back with his own against much larger men. pacqauio could come back. i don't think he will, but it's not fair to say that nbody has come back from being stopped. now, when guys start getting stopped for many fights in a row, it usually signals the end. the fights that take the most out of a fighter are extended beatings that end in a knockout. if a guy gets his ass kicked for 10 rounds before getting stopped cold his brain takes a hellish beating. a good recent example was ortiz - maidana. ortiz doesn't remember anything from that fight. he was out on his feet from the first big right hand maidana landed, the one that shook him so visibly when he got back up. ortiz has been a completely different person since that fight. his motivation is gone, and even his personality has changed. that's head trauma.

last thing you want to do when your fighter has been brutally ko'ed unconscious is have him fight a guy who can knock him out...and as limited as rios is, the guy is tough as nails and packs big power...if pac doesn't play it safe/smart then i think hes getting beat up and ko'ed again for sure... no other fighter in history has been able to come back 100% after getting ko'ed unconscious like pac did...and at age 34...NO ONE... What about Roberto Duran getting Ricky Flattened by Hearns and then beating Iran Barkley at middleweight?

The thread is titled " put on a lot of definition ".. so we expect to see it. I never claimed he looked like tim bradley or the hulk but this is definitely the best rios has ever looked physique wise and we are still 9 weeks out from the fight

I need a 14 day cut of because I get weak when they take blood ! Rios just take the test and there will be no 14 day cut of because I only get weak for Floyd . You lot are bunch of gullible flip flopping fools . Like I told LittleMac, most Manny fans were OK with the 14 day cutoff. Back then Manny was thinking about what happened before the Morales fight when he had to give blood and feeling weak. He didn't want to take the chance being that it was going to be one of if not the biggest fight of his career. Gullible is a Floyd fan that doesn't see all those roadblocks from Floyd throughout those years.

Roach has had fighters test positive for peds so Floyd's request could be warented, but what you bigots keep avoiding is that Manny's refusal to be tested was what raised suspicion and not what someone said. Everyone thought ,including you bigots, Floyd's request was a joke until Manny refuse and then all of a sudden every turd became butt hurt. Manny's action to refuse testing was what raised suspicion. Wrong! Floyd Sr brought it up before Manny's team said anything for one. I will remind you that Manny didn't refuse extra testing he just didn't want blood taken close to the fight. Floyd and Manny were off on their cut-off dates by about 7 days or so. Then later Manny accepted but Floyd put new roadblocks. Many Manny and Floyd fans were hoping that Manny accepted the 14 day cut-off date so what you said is wrong. They just wanted to see the fight .... but I remember that as soon as Floyd removed it, Floyd fans were all of a sudden OK with that.

Faaark those exercises look hard as! I was burnin just watching them!

No chin training = Rios is going to lose. .

If Rios win with Ariza in his corner that would be the ultimate insult. Ariza has been saying for Pacquiao's last 3 or 4 fights that he's been neglecting his strength and conditioning. Ironically, Pacquiao hasn't looked so good in his last 3 or 4 fights. I'm giving Rios more of a chance than it looks like everyone else is. For one, he's got a chin, he's bigger, and has a relatively high work rate. Even though he lost the fight with Alvarado, he wasn't beat up. The only thing I would worry about; not sure when Rios will make the trip Macau, but that flight could take awhile to recover.

We might see the best version of Rios in November, can't wait.

That line can be very easily directed at Floyd and his team and many of his fans. Floyd, Floyd Sr, GB and so on wasted no time accusing Manny of taking PEDs with no proof ...... At least, we have admitted proof that Heredia did this with many of his athletes and admitted that he can get away with it even if there was testing. I need a 14 day cut of because I get weak when they take blood ! Rios just take the test and there will be no 14 day cut of because I only get weak for Floyd . You lot are bunch of gullible flip flopping fools .

That line can be very easily directed at Floyd and his team and many of his fans. Floyd, Floyd Sr, GB and so on wasted no time accusing Manny of taking PEDs with no proof ...... At least, we have admitted proof that Heredia did this with many of his athletes and admitted that he can get away with it even if there was testing. Roach has had fighters test positive for peds so Floyd's request could be warented, but what you bigots keep avoiding is that Manny's refusal to be tested was what raised suspicion and not what someone said. Everyone thought ,including you bigots, Floyd's request was a joke until Manny refuse and then all of a sudden every turd became butt hurt. Manny's action to refuse testing was what raised suspicion.

The bigot turds wasting no time in using the ped card:D That line can be very easily directed at Floyd and his team and many of his fans. Floyd, Floyd Sr, GB and so on wasted no time accusing Manny of taking PEDs with no proof ...... At least, we have admitted proof that Heredia did this with many of his athletes and admitted that he can get away with it even if there was testing.

The bigot turds wasting no time in using the ped card:D

The thread is titled " put on a lot of definition ".. so we expect to see it. here, you want it so bad you can have it http://digitaldmx.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/grammar-police-uqu.jpg and he will be in the best shape of his life. more shredded than you've ever seen. haters hate :dance: I saw that video last night and was gonna make a thread about it lol. You can see rios is motivated as hell. Meanwhile PAC is getting trained by buboy lmao exactly! at this point manny can only train to survive!

If Rios can beat Pacquiao, I will praise everyone on his team. That would be making the impossible a reality.

Cool. His beating will last longer.

u aint gotta be no expert chemist.... you just gotta no the half lifes.... and how to cycle the drugs.... its not rocket science.... tyson gay failed his drug test, he has the same trainers etc as usain bolt... yet bolt never failed? why.... he made adjustments to his regiment and to his dismay failed.... yah i know...i'm just saying heredia is the best steroid chemist out there...turned a 39 year old into a punching phenom... heredia makes the designer peds...

rios does have this type of garsh punch it's how he hurt alvarado in the first fight and if he works the body he has a shot. im making the fight a little closer 70-30