Now that the hype is all around how C.J. Ross scored the Mayweather fight, it seems some are forgetting the fact that C.J. Ross is one of two judges who scored Pacquiao-Bradley 115-113, which is an absolute atrocity and a horrendous score. Pac was absolutely robbed, and Pac won the fight 119-109 on everyones card just like Mayweather did vs. Alvarez. It's also funny that Mayweather claimed Pac was washed up after that fight since he "lost." I wonder how Mayweather would have felt had Duane Ford been judging with C.J. and scored the fight 115-113 for Canelo. It's obvious that someone was looking out for Canelo so that it doesn't look as bad on his record as a Unanimous Decision.
The judges in this sport have needed to be cleaned up for ages. Nothing was done in the past, and nothing will be done now. After a couple weeks, the general public forgets about it and we, the boxing fans lose.
I gotta say - I stand corrected. I just watched the fight again, in full. I scored it 114-114 and had the sound turned off. Bradley outworked Pac, and Pac banked on the fact that he could work for only the last 1/3rd of the round and win it. Pac landed the more powerful shots and did hurt Bradley on occasion, but he missed a lot of wild shots and wasn't busy enough. Bradley did not have much steam on his shots early on, but he scored more than I originally thought. Bradley also won the last 3 rounds in a row. I remember being completely convinced that this fight was an obvious robbery, and I'm glad to say I've changed my stance.
Not even comparable to the Mayweather-Canelo fight.
pac rounds: 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 9
bradley rounds: 2, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12
Having won 121-1-1 ringside, on average 117-111 and losing the decision is worse than winning a near shutout ringside and getting an MD. Both are ridiculous, but at least you don't get robbed.
I gotta say - I stand corrected. I just watched the fight again, in full. I scored it 114-114 and had the sound turned off. Bradley outworked Pac, and Pac banked on the fact that he could work for only the last 1/3rd of the round and win it. Pac landed the more powerful shots and did hurt Bradley on occasion, but he missed a lot of wild shots and wasn't busy enough. Bradley did not have much steam on his shots early on, but he scored more than I originally thought. Bradley also won the last 3 rounds in a row. I remember being completely convinced that this fight was an obvious robbery, and I'm glad to say I've changed my stance.
Not even comparable to the Mayweather-Canelo fight.
pac rounds: 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 9
bradley rounds: 2, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12
you know what reasonable unbiased boxing fans that call it like we see it , said cj was corrupt last yr !!!!! yes a whole year ago we told you guys there was something corrupt with the way she scored the manny bradley fight !!!! but floyd lover didnt want to see the light !!! they let there hate for manny cloud there judgement !!!!!! now all of the sudden the same corrupt judge strikes again !!! now the same floyd fans who was mocking unbiased posters like me , check hooks ,and pac boy want to cry foul !!!!!! well you know what if you idiots wouldve listened to real boxing fans like us this would never have happened !!!!!!!!!!!
Bulldust it was very wide , go watch the fight in slow mo and it was very close , I know how the fight appeared to be by just watching it , but when you really watch that fight on your own with your finger on the remote it was very close .
You can do the same in Floyds fight and its a total whitewash .
121-1-1. Wider press cards than Floyd Cotto, which I'm sure you'll agree wasn't close
Floyd Canelo was wider, since you could score it a shutout. But Pac Bradley was already very wide, wider than Floyd Cotto on press row.
The average ringside score for Pac Bradley was 9-3. There were more 11-1 for Pac than 7-5 Pac + draw + Bradley win combined. So your score is far fringe.
http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Manny_Pacquiao_vs._Timothy_Bradley
Bulldust it was very wide , go watch the fight in slow mo and it was very close , I know how the fight appeared to be by just watching it , but when you really watch that fight on your own with your finger on the remote it was very close .
You can do the same in Floyds fight and its a total whitewash .
Yea, but Mayweather's fight with Canelo was much wider than Pac-Bradley. There are 5 rounds I easily gave Bradley 1,2, 10. 11, 12. Pac wasn't hitting Bradley cleanly. May was hitting Canelo cleanly with a sharp jab.
Floyd Canelo was wider, since you could score it a shutout. But Pac Bradley was already very wide, wider than Floyd Cotto on press row.
The average ringside score for Pac Bradley was 9-3. There were more 11-1 for Pac than 7-5 Pac + draw + Bradley win combined. So your score is far fringe.
http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Manny_Pacquiao_vs._Timothy_Bradley
Bradley vs Pac was close , if you want to be honest to yourself go watch the videos that are dissecting the fight round by round in slow motion and using rewind , when you do , its a very close fight , and we have lots of close fights where a judge can get it wrong .
This May fight was a total shutout and she had him losing 6 rounds , that's entirely different as far as judging goes to being 2pts different than the other 2 judges , this one was such blatant incompetence .
You guys are always comparing apples and oranges trying to make them the same .
you have pac-bradley close but have pac-jmm3 a robbery. laughable. pac-jmm3 was more of a draw vs the robbery of pac-bradley. whatever suits your agenda, but really you're one of the laughing stock here in nsb so it's all good.
Now that the hype is all around how C.J. Ross scored the Mayweather fight, it seems some are forgetting the fact that C.J. Ross is one of two judges who scored Pacquiao-Bradley 115-113, which is an absolute atrocity and a horrendous score. Pac was absolutely robbed, and Pac won the fight 119-109 on everyones card just like Mayweather did vs. Alvarez. It's also funny that Mayweather claimed Pac was washed up after that fight since he "lost." I wonder how Mayweather would have felt had Duane Ford been judging with C.J. and scored the fight 115-113 for Canelo. It's obvious that someone was looking out for Canelo so that it doesn't look as bad on his record as a Unanimous Decision.
The judges in this sport have needed to be cleaned up for ages. Nothing was done in the past, and nothing will be done now. After a couple weeks, the general public forgets about it and we, the boxing fans lose.
Yea, but Mayweather's fight with Canelo was much wider than Pac-Bradley. There are 5 rounds I easily gave Bradley 1,2, 10. 11, 12. Pac wasn't hitting Bradley cleanly. May was hitting Canelo cleanly with a sharp jab.
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Posted: Sep 17, 2013 5:58 PM PDT
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LAS VEGAS -- The boxing judge involved in that controversial decision over the weekend confirms to 8 News NOW that she is stepping down indefinitely.
Veteran judge CJ Ross has been involved in two controversial decisions in the last 15 months, including scoring the Mayweather and Alvarez fight Saturday as a draw, when most of the world had Mayweather overwhelmingly winning the fight.
Ross and the chairman of the Nevada Athletic Commission, Bill Brady, met Tuesday with intentions of reviewing her controversial scorecard from Saturday's fight.
However, they didn't get that far, she announced her intentions to step aside, at least for the foreseeable future.
"To her credit, she does not want to take away from the story, being what a dominate performance by Floyd Mayweather. So, she has asked us if she can take some time off, we've agreed. It shows the type of person she is. Bill was very understanding and supportive. He agreed that that was a great avenue to take," NAC executive director Keith Kizer said.
All boxing judges and referees have to reapply each year for a license.
Ross has been a judge for 22 years and told 8 News NOW Sports Director Chris Maathuis that she doesn't know if she'll reapply.
However, they didn't get that far, she announced her intentions to step aside, at least for the foreseeable future.
"To her credit, she does not want to take away from the story, being what a dominate performance by Floyd Mayweather. So, she has asked us if she can take some time off, we've agreed. It shows the type of person she is. Bill was very understanding and supportive. He agreed that that was a great avenue to take," NAC executive director Keith Kizer said.
All boxing judges and referees have to reapply each year for a license.
Ross has been a judge for 22 years and told 8 News NOW Sports Director Chris Maathuis that she doesn't know if she'll reapply.
Ok. But who's to say that Pac can't win a legitimate decision over Floyd? We don't really know until they actually fight. If he beats Rios, which he most likely will, I want to see him fight Floyd.Maybe he will, anything can happen. I do think we are getting this fight in 2014 unless something wild happens like Pac getting starched by Rios. Otherwise, Pac/May is going to happen in 2014 and CJ Ross will 100% be one of the judges. Every party involved is stupid if they'd walk away from this opportunity again.
where have you been everyone knows shes the same one that robbed pac man even mayweather mentioned it
even floyd mayweather mentioned this.Is there a video of this or an article?
Did I miss something?Nearly 40 years of stuffing the proper pockets puts CJ Ross firmly in the Bobfathers' own pocket. Look through her scores and make a case otherwise.
CJ Ross might've screwed Pacquiao on that one, but she has also been the only judge who would've ever given Pac a decision over Floyd. Welcome to politics kids, it is a whole new level of game.
Bradley vs Pac was close , if you want to be honest to yourself go watch the videos that are dissecting the fight round by round in slow motion and using rewind , when you do , its a very close fight , and we have lots of close fights where a judge can get it wrong .
This May fight was a total shutout and she had him losing 6 rounds , that's entirely different as far as judging goes to being 2pts different than the other 2 judges , this one was such blatant incompetence .
You guys are always comparing apples and oranges trying to make them the same .
Now that the hype is all around how C.J. Ross scored the Mayweather fight, it seems some are forgetting the fact that C.J. Ross is one of two judges who scored Pacquiao-Bradley 115-113, which is an absolute atrocity and a horrendous score. Pac was absolutely robbed, and Pac won the fight 119-109 on everyones card just like Mayweather did vs. Alvarez. It's also funny that Mayweather claimed Pac was washed up after that fight since he "lost." I wonder how Mayweather would have felt had Duane Ford been judging with C.J. and scored the fight 115-113 for Canelo.
The judges in this sport have needed to be cleaned up for ages. Nothing was done in the past, and nothing will be done now. After a couple weeks, the general public forgets about it and we, the boxing fans lose.
where have you been everyone knows shes the same one that robbed pac man even mayweather mentioned it