I like the odds on Rios vs Pac. I know Rios is tailor made for Pac but after being KTFOed I have a feeling that Pac wont be the same fighter. I can cite Roy Jones as an example and Chuck liddell in MMA. Will pac still be the same? Can you guys help me out?
A majority say he will not be the same. Those with high hopes think he's still good to go with nothing to worry about.
Only way to tell is how he handles a chin shot after he gets hit by a hard puncher again. Brandon may or may not test Pac's chin. Most don't think so.
If Manny fights with reckless abandon and starts to KO guys and rack up titles again, then he could be on top again.
There's no telling at the moment.
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Manny is gonna be fine. The comparison to the RJJ case is wrong. Roy was losing his speed fight by fight. The boring man John Ruiz made him look like he was in his prime but he was slowly fading. Losing 30 pounds of muscle for the first Tarver fight was sucide for Roy. Roy never had a great chin to begin with, he just never got hit clean thanks to his ATG reflexes. All of it was gone once he lost that speed and quickness. Manny is different, his Speed was still there in the Marquez fight, i thought he looked the best since the Cotto fight. He just got overconfident and walked into a perfect counterpunch. If Manny didnt lose his speed and quickness during the year he took off, he will KO Rios within 5 and the talks for a 5th Marquez/Floyd fight will begin.
I think so.
To be honest, I think you're better off losing the way Manny did, as far as your mental goes.
Rather than to have to chase a guy around for 12 rounds and just get hit at will and not be able to hit him back.
That kind of loss takes something from you that you will never get back.
A knockout loss, you can brush, the dust off and tell yourself "I got caught"
I had this sig when pac was on a roll and floyd wont face him. I'm too lazy to change it. BTW I think Pac will give floyd trouble if they fight. Too fast and too lefthanded and with power to boot.
Pac is washed up.
It's your sig. It breeds lies and deceit.
I had this sig when pac was on a roll and floyd wont face him. I'm too lazy to change it. BTW I think Pac will give floyd trouble if they fight. Too fast and too lefthanded and with power to boot.
There is no hope for Pac. His chin is suspect and he can be kod at anytime during any one of his fights from here on out. Pac is a ko waiting to happen!
But what is your gut feeling.
I thought I convinced myself that Pac was vulnerable even though Rios style is made for him. but after pointing out that Norris and Duran remained world class after being KTFOed viciously I starting to have doubts.
I feel Pac's skills were diminishing before JMM 4...but I'm not sure Rios is good enough to take advantage.
I like the odds on Rios vs Pac. I know Rios is tailor made for Pac but after being KTFOed I have a feeling that Pac wont be the same fighter. I can cite Roy Jones as an example and Chuck liddell in MMA. Will pac still be the same? Can you guys help me out?
It's your sig. It breeds lies and deceit.
I wouldnt bet on this fight for the simple fact I have no idea how Manny is going to look.
But what is your gut feeling.
I thought I convinced myself that Pac was vulnerable even though Rios style is made for him. but after pointing out that Norris and Duran remained world class after being KTFOed viciously I starting to have doubts.
He was visibly on the slide before the Marquez fight. I would not be totally shocked if he loses this one, in fact I'm even having a few quid on Rios winning by stoppage.
Youre right, I forgot about him. Also Hearns. But I really cant shake that feeling that Pac is Ripe for the taking. Might as well make money on it you know.
Terry Norris
Roberto Duran
Youre right, I forgot about him. Also Hearns. But I really cant shake that feeling that Pac is Ripe for the taking. Might as well make money on it you know.
He will probably try to fight smarter this time around. Maybe a little more defensive. The KO probably did affect him in some way, but it will take his opponent to expose that in him and Rios is the type of opponent that could bring that out. Don't look too much into the fact Rios is coming up one division. He's still dangerous for Pac.
I'm not confident that Pac can fight another way. He never adjusted against Marquez. That's those fights were so close. Considering the Physical gifts he has he should be able to beat Marquez convincingly but he could never figure out that style.
But not fighters who were out cold for almost 10 minutes. I'm talking about the Hatton KO, Roy Jones KO. I cant really think of fighters who came back after being out cold. And i've been watching for a long time.
Roberto Duran
He will probably try to fight smarter this time around. Maybe a little more defensive. The KO probably did affect him in some way, but it will take his opponent to expose that in him and Rios is the type of opponent that could bring that out. Don't look too much into the fact Rios is coming up one division. He's still dangerous for Pac.
Whilst you have to take that account its also worth noting Rios is made for Pacquaio, he has never fought at Welterweight and doesn't have one punch power, he grinds guys down.
I thought he showed one punch KO power against Alvarado in the first fight.
Plenty of fighters got stopped and resumed their careers. Every man is different so can't say until we see him fight.
But not fighters who were out cold for almost 10 minutes. I'm talking about the Hatton KO, Roy Jones KO. I cant really think of fighters who came back after being out cold. And i've been watching for a long time.
Whilst you have to take that account its also worth noting Rios is made for Pacquaio, he has never fought at Welterweight and doesn't have one punch power, he grinds guys down.
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