Watching on Saturday I was truly dissapointed in Canelos performance. I understand his lack of foot work was a major factor but I feel, the gameplan was all wrong. He tried to out box Floyd and never had an answer for the jab. I expected Floyd to win but it was truly easy work.
Maybe he should consider Nacho or Roach? I feel they could make Canelo into a GREAT champion. He is still young, and he IS talented. But Chepo and Eddie need to go. Anyone else agree?
If that is true by your logic Bradley should whipp him because he has "every advantage too" Maybe you're right we will find out soon enough.
By my logic, All it means is that Marquez will have to climb a steep hill once again come November.
i dont think he needs a new trainer, i belive he was rushed in to this fight thinking he was goin to outwork floyd. there were times in where floyd literaly stood there in front ofcanelo and canelo didnt even blink, what was he waitin for? Ive been sayin it forever the way you beat floyd is by pressure and hitting his body even if you hit his arms he"ll crack soon yet nobody does this.
People have been trying this method, it's just easier said than done. I love how everybody believes they have the "blueprint" to beat Mayweather, yet they don't realize that nobody can come close to executing it. Castillo is the only guy who did it or possibly came close, but the rematch proved it might have been a fluke. We can't build a time machine to bring back a prime Roberto Duran, so fighters will have to try new strategies and game plans.
i agree !!!!!!!! if canelo had a better trainer he wouldve done better !!! even though i had the fight close to a draw i think with roach in canelos corner he would have knocked out mayweather !!! just look at the facts !!! roach gave oscar the blueprint !!! and ever since then no fighter has come close enuff to beating floydie !!!!!!!
You had the fight close to a draw?? Either you're trolling or you're really retarded
i dont think he needs a new trainer, i belive he was rushed in to this fight thinking he was goin to outwork floyd. there were times in where floyd literaly stood there in front ofcanelo and canelo didnt even blink, what was he waitin for? Ive been sayin it forever the way you beat floyd is by pressure and hitting his body even if you hit his arms he"ll crack soon yet nobody does this.
Well do it again , what that's , Marquez and Nacho want nothing to do with Floyd because Nacho said you cant beat Floyd with a bat .. the weight had nothing to do with Floyds domination of Juan and everything to do with skills speed and boxing IQ , weight effects none of these .
Floyd would do the same thing to Marquez today !
Nothing has changed in the size department so what are you talking about JMM is still much to small for floyd and hes fuking 40 years old. Floyd is obvious the better fighter and thats that just leave that fight alone nobody wants to see it. it's not like any of Floyds fights are watchable anyways.
No, he doesn't need a new trainer. I wouldn't be mad, however, if he chose to train with Nacho. Canelo fought like he normally does, being a boxer-puncher. He just got beat by the best fighter on the planet, plain and simple. Canelo will bounce back and be fine.
I think people are way to naïve and don't truly appreciate boxing. Canelo had a size strength as a superior attribute to Floyd and did not utilize it. Why? A more experienced corner would have understood and pressed the issue. Not to undermine Floyds accomplishments in the fight common. The man is obviously slower and easier to hit, but what the hell was canelos corner. It is frickin annoying. It's the equivalent to the todays broncos trying to strictly run the ball against the leagues best team and not using mannings pass game. I hope canelo takes two quick fights and hypes himself up for a rematch in September because I think he could win
Mayweather had every advantage x2 since he didn't even bother making weight, Marquez's first fight going up two weight classes, and Mayweather who stays in shape all year round, he couldn't make the weight, he's a natural 147lb'er. Marquez doesn't belong anywhere north of 135lbs. He is in a disadvantage in size, power, speed, and agility. Moves slower at all his fights above 135lbs. Only reason he fights around 140 is for the money. And does well against other featherweights who have also just moved up like Pacquiao.
Well do it again , what that's , Marquez and Nacho want nothing to do with Floyd because Nacho said you cant beat Floyd with a bat .. the weight had nothing to do with Floyds domination of Juan and everything to do with skills speed and boxing IQ , weight effects none of these .
Floyd would do the same thing to Marquez today !
Fire whoever came up with the idea of out boxing Mayweather period, and if the idea was his he should wear a dunce hat for a year.
Mayweather had every advantage x2 since he didn't even bother making weight, Marquez's first fight going up two weight classes, and Mayweather who stays in shape all year round, he couldn't make the weight, he's a natural 147lb'er. Marquez doesn't belong anywhere north of 135lbs. He is in a disadvantage in size, power, speed, and agility. Moves slower at all his fights above 135lbs. Only reason he fights around 140 is for the money. And does well against other featherweights who have also just moved up like Pacquiao.
If that is true by your logic Bradley should whipp him because he has "every advantage too" Maybe you're right we will find out soon enough.
Marquez landed 11% of his punches while Floyd landed 57%; hell Floyd hadn't fought in almost 2 years and ut didn't matter. A more stocky Marquez wouldn't do any better.
Mayweather had every advantage x2 since he didn't even bother making weight, Marquez's first fight going up two weight classes, and Mayweather who stays in shape all year round, he couldn't make the weight, he's a natural 147lb'er. Marquez doesn't belong anywhere north of 135lbs. He is in a disadvantage in size, power, speed, and agility. Moves slower at all his fights above 135lbs. Only reason he fights around 140 is for the money. And does well against other featherweights who have also just moved up like Pacquiao.
I say Canelo needs Floyd Sr to teach him some defense!
He didn't teach Floyd defense he showed him the path and how to use what he was born with , Floyd is gifted not taught .
Happing already , look at the side effect in Mays gym , everybody trys to follow Floyds mojo and nobody can , look at Ishy , looked like a 90 yr old version of a bum Floyd .
These guys younger guys coming up need to study Floyds vision not his style , only Floyd will be great with at style , most others will get caught .
Lets not ignore the fact that Floyd came in at 147.
Rewatch the Juan Floyd fight then the Floyd Canelo fight. Tell me juan didn't land the better shots on Floyd than Canelo. If you say Canelo landed the better shots you're lying.
Floyd coming in at 146 had nothing to do with the outcome he didn't big man fight Marquez he kept him on the edge of his jab and left hook. Marquez barely landed punches and Canelo's had more effect on Floyd than JMM.
not at all. kid is as sharp as it gets with the exception of floyd. even floyd said he does everything right. the difference was floyds natural athleticism. I'll tell you what he doesn't need and that's you as an advisor.
Once again... He will go farther with Nacho than Chepo and Eddie..
not at all. kid is as sharp as it gets with the exception of floyd. even floyd said he does everything right. the difference was floyds natural athleticism. I'll tell you what he doesn't need and that's you as an advisor.
As much as I'd like to see Canelo with nacho he seems too loyal to the reynosos. They showed their inexperience to asume canelo could win a strictly technical fight. He wasn't embarrassed as some people want to put it but he disappointed with the approach he took.he had the attributes and physical ability to push the fight. Nacho has seen it all, he knows what works and what doesn't. I think GB will suggest it to him but he seems too loyal to his coaches.
Marquez landed 11% of his punches while Floyd landed 57%; hell Floyd hadn't fought in almost 2 years and ut didn't matter. A more stocky Marquez wouldn't do any better.
Lets not ignore the fact that Floyd came in at 147.
Rewatch the Juan Floyd fight then the Floyd Canelo fight. Tell me juan didn't land the better shots on Floyd than Canelo. If you say Canelo landed the better shots you're lying.