Why Canelo Tried..

That's who Canelo is. He's not a pressure fighter. His strategy was fine he's just not on that level.

Not to say to say that X Y Z strategy is better, but I couldn't help doing a colossal face palm when Canelo chose to try and tentatively counter box Floyd Mayweather. :tragedy: THE BLUEPRINT WAS WRONG. WE NEED A NEW BLUEPRINT. :dunce:

That's funny, I was in here saying that and everyone was insulting me for it. You guys over thought this thing. The only way to beat Mayweather is to pressure him for 12 rounds and not stop. Put Leo Santa Cruz cardio and style into Canelo's body. Non stop pressure for 12 rounds and force Mayweather to fight. Everyone falls into his trap and boxes. There's a reason Mayweather avoided a prime Marg 5 years ago at 147, he knows that is the toughest style to deal with. Not saying Marg would have won, he just like to slow the fight down to his pace. Ginger had the right idea for his skill set and stamina issues, when he started opening up he was eating all kinds of counters. He just failed to adapt to mayweathers adjustments. I don't understand why why people think he would fair better throwing the kitchen sink at Mayweather, when he is simply too good defensively for an inexperienced pressure fighter who's merely adapting the style for this fight. Not saying this is what you meant, but others think that he should of went all out every round.

Just sitting here wondering why Canelo tried to box with Mayweather who is a masterful counter puncher and defensive fighter. During All access Canelo and his team would say stuff like I'm just as fast and my ring intelligence is underrated. Leading everyone to believe he would try to outbox Mayweather in the fight.. I just thought it was all rhetoric. At the end of the day, if he got an undeserved draw with that fight plan, He actually could of won the fight if he sold out with a mauling style. I think he needs a new trainer! Because the fight was fixed

why anyone would try to outbox Floyd is beyond me...it aint happeningAnd trying to cut off the ring and overwhelm Floyd would have got Canelo eating more right hands and lefts. No formula would have worked for Canelo.

Plan A was to try and box Mayweather at mid-range. It didn't work. Where was plan B, plan C, etc? I know pressure isn't Alvarez natural game, but his advantages over Mayweather were size and probably strength. At no point did he make a concerted effort to capitalise on that. Others will have seen a lot more of Alvarez than me, but it looked to me like he had cement in his boots. His movement was poor. I'm not sure if he is normally like that.Anyone will look like cement in thier boots when fighting Floyd. Here is the thing, when Canelo fought in the center of the ring, at times he was snapping off 2-3 jabs but still wasn't able to overcome Floyd. Now when he took Floyd to the ropes, he was having less success. Face it, there is no game plan that would have worked for Canelo Saturday night. He knew at least he wouldn't walk into punches if he stayed ring center.....he would if he followed Floyd to the ropes. His most success was ring center but his best was not good enough. This was not the same Floyd who decided to lay on the ropes against Cotto. He fought his type of fight against Guerrero and Canelo which means even at Floyds age, he learned something from the Cotto fight and used it. Like I said, to beat a Genius you have to be a Genius or overwhelm a Genius and Canelo was not able to do either. He'll be a champ again, guaranteed and he can still be the pride of Mexico and there is nothing wrong with being second and telling your grandkids that you were not only a champ, you fought one of the top 25-35 fighters of all time.

why anyone would try to outbox Floyd is beyond me...it aint happening

After 2 or 3 rounds of trying to box Floyd, it should have sunk in that wasn't go to work so time to change the plan. THe new plan should have been to make it a war. There is nothing wrong with fighting like Marvin haggler did to Hearns. It might not feel natural to Canelo to do that, but you have to adapt sometimes. Canelo punches real good so im sure it could have worked. But Canelo said he did all he could so you cant ask for more really, but if he watches the tape he might feel differently. Rematch perhaps.

Plan A was to try and box Mayweather at mid-range. It didn't work. Where was plan B, plan C, etc? I know pressure isn't Alvarez natural game, but his advantages over Mayweather were size and probably strength. At no point did he make a concerted effort to capitalise on that. Others will have seen a lot more of Alvarez than me, but it looked to me like he had cement in his boots. His movement was poor. I'm not sure if he is normally like that.

thats what oscar told him, duh.

simple ..he bought his own hype.. kid was never that good ...

If he would have tried pressuring Floyd he would have gotten both his eyes closed and possibly stopped. I don't know where people get the idea that it is so easy to just up and change your style against a highly skilled boxer like Floyd. When you try to introduce this new wrinkle and that part of your game is found lacking compared to how you normally fight, he's going to pick that shyt apart. It's much better to just go with what you know even if that means getting picked off for 12 rounds.

So true when I saw canelo feinting with mayweather I know it was over. You're never going to outbox floyd. Why the **** bother? That's why a technical boxer will never beat floyd. It will take a pac, margarito type fighter to beat floyd someone that will not be afraid to get hit, someone that naturally fights offensively and does not get discouraged by getting hit.

Everyone tries the pressure tactic, how many times must the same plan fail before people realise it isn't going to work. Oscar tried it and I had it 116-112 Mayweather, Oscar was very good and much bigger and he lost clearly. Canelo tried to do something different and it didn't work, that's better than getting pounded while trying what everyone else has already failed with.

He didn't tried to tired Floyd. That what the problem is mang.

Two things happen...you try to pressure with a lot of punches and see you miss, get tired and Discouraged to where you just survive or try to box Or you just keep on pressure While being countered because you can't land anything

some on the talk about applying nonstop pressure but they fail to realize that Mayweather takes advantage of that with counters and you can't land all those shots you will get tired and Mayweather will coast...yes Margarito can look good Throwing a lot of punches with the stationary target but against someone who will make him miss he will get tired and frustrated and lose

The idea is to constantly pressure and hope that Floyd gets more tired than you are "f*cked up" and that you have enough left to take advantage. That gives you a chance. Boxing Floyd gives you zero chance. Even without the pressure you could tell Floyd was tired in the chanpionship rounds. Imagine what alot more energy expenditure woulda done? Simple. trying to hit someone and keep missing them makes you frustrated, tires your arms, puts you off balance too much and weakens your defense. If you keep doing that,especially in with a guy who is faster and has a longer reach, you will get KTFO, even with a light hitter like floyd. there was nothing Canelo could do to stop floyd from hitting him even when he covered up. Canelo scored with the jab, but ate so many counter shots that, just like ODH, realized to keep it up reduced his chance to win. In reality, Damn kid is 23 and won as many rounds v floyd as JMM did. Think about that. Canelo will be ok going forward.

He actually could of won the fight if he sold out with a mauling style. No, he couldn't have won the fight with a mauling style. Canelo has never fought this way. It's not in his nature, and he doesn't have the stamina to sustain it. Canelo was tired enough on Saturday; if he had tried to maul Floyd, he would have gassed completely and likely been KO'd. The truth is that up until the Floyd fight, Canelo had been able to win by coming in larger than the competition, pacing himself and hurting his smaller opponents with a relatively modest volume of body shots. That approach doesn't work against a fighter with superior movement who is not going to sit there and let you get off clean combinations to the body.

Because he was trying to break the Mayweather code. If he had bull rushed Mayweather, he would have eaten more right leads and check hooks. To beat a Genius you have to be a Genius or have the capacity to overwhelm them and Canelo had neither.