David Haye is better P4P than Mayweather and Pacquiao.

Assuming you're right about Floyd, which you're not, how does this make him better P4P than Pacquiao? (He's named in the title but not in your post). Pacquiao is the best pound for pound fighter of the last decade. I clarified this in a later post: Perhaps i should have said "Haye is best pound for pound active fighter", to not just single out Mayweather and Pacquiao. Haye's best win is Valuev, but you want him in the P4P? #notsureifserious Not talking about any list simply that Haye is the best active pound for pound fighter. Everything i said has been factual and cannot possibly be debunked.

Well, I will give Haye his credit for fighting the biggest HWs in boxing.

Haye's best win is Valuev, but you want him in the P4P? #notsureifserious

If it was possible for some scientist to shrink Haye to welterweight, he would absolutely murder Floyd. While you're at it, make sure that scientist gives welterweight Haye a bionic steel toe.

HW's are a different ball game these guys hit seriously hard Haye gets credit because he is really just a blown up cruiserweight, but he can still make the weight he wants

Middleweight GOAT Harry Greb routinely fought heavyweights and defeated every single heavyweight he ever fought, even the ones who fought for titles. Jack Dempsey ducked him. He was blind in one eye, with diminishing sight in the other. He never complained about weight differences. So I think Floyd should fight GGG. It´s just a few pounds. And then maybe fight Hopkins at 160.

im telling u its nowhere near as simple as u make it. human aren't supposed to be much heavier that 200lbs. the one that are are either unhealthy or freakish athletes. 200+ lb freakish athletes can compete with each other and definitely dominate 200lb+ fat asses. the klitchskos are definitely in at top .5 percentile when it comes to their freakish size, athleticism etc. but haye is also up there. while the height and weight matter, it doesn't matter as much as it would for a guy 10 lbs apart in a lower weight class. that's a fact. anyone who has watch boxing knows this. Absolutely. But we are talking prime physical specimen here. As is Floyd, as is Haye, Sergio, GGG, Klitschko, Cunningham etc. With regards to the bold, it's not a fact. Haye has an exceptionally hard punch, which means he can compete with these guys. Cunningham, a guy of similar stature, weight and height, cannot despite weighing roughly the same as Haye - both are prime specimen without an ounce of fat on them.

Do Floyd is ducking David Haye now.

He's on the wind up but theres something of a valid point in there, Haye does well for being a small guy in his division, in the recent vid of him with wilder, towers and wach he looked like a damn midget That was exactly what drew me into making the thread.

Are you trying to tell me there's a bigger difference in size, strength, power, height, reach etc from 150-160 than 210-250. Stop it please. Of course we are not talking a 250 Kevin Johnson obviously, we are talking a fighting machine like Klitschko. im telling u its nowhere near as simple as u make it. human aren't supposed to be much heavier that 200lbs. the one that are are either unhealthy or freakish athletes. 200+ lb freakish athletes can compete with each other and definitely dominate 200lb+ fat asses. the klitchskos are definitely in at top .5 percentile when it comes to their freakish size, athleticism etc. but haye is also up there. while the height and weight matter, it doesn't matter as much as it would for a guy 10 lbs apart in a lower weight class. that's a fact. anyone who has watch boxing knows this.

for starters, that's not what the TS is proposing. he's saying that a weight advantage of 50 lbs at HW is the same as a 50 lb in the weight classes, which is absurd. miguel cotto would lose to a journeyman cruiserweight. guillermo rigondeaux would get knocked the hell out against a LHW. david haye can easily compete with a 250+ guy. he's the second best HW in the world. TS is just trying to get a rise out of people. I know, there's no question about that. Of course you can't compare 150-200 to 200-250. My reply was more in relation to Floyd-GGG than weight as a whole. But really, Floyd is a 135-140 pounder, not a 150.

As long as his toes remain healthy he is the best P4P out there

Like I said-the days after a Mayweather win on NSB are always good. Haye hasn't fought in over a year, you could've made this anytime but you waited until now. The stupid threads are goin to come. Haye fights in 12 days, Floyd fought 2 days ago, this thread is completely relevant.

not really, that's not at all how it works. the 250 lb man might be bigger, but truthfully not may 250lb men are healthy. the klitchskos are just freaks of nature. and world class 250 lb boxer is a rare site. same for 210 lb men as well. now the difference from 150 to 170 factors in a whole lot of possibilities as far as size and muscle. its not at all the same thing. Are you trying to tell me there's a bigger difference in size, strength, power, height, reach etc from 150-160 than 210-250. Stop it please. Of course we are not talking a 250 Kevin Johnson obviously, we are talking a fighting machine like Klitschko.

The difference between a 210 man and a 250 man is worse than the difference between a 150 man and a 160 man. for starters, that's not what the TS is proposing. he's saying that a weight advantage of 50 lbs at HW is the same as a 50 lb in the weight classes, which is absurd. miguel cotto would lose to a journeyman cruiserweight. guillermo rigondeaux would get knocked the hell out against a LHW. david haye can easily compete with a 250+ guy. he's the second best HW in the world. TS is just trying to get a rise out of people.

Perhaps i should have said "Haye is best pound for pound active fighter", to not just single out Mayweather and Pacquiao. Everything i said has been factual. The same doesn't apply for your post. Like I said-the days after a Mayweather win on NSB are always good. Haye hasn't fought in over a year, you could've made this anytime but you waited until now. The stupid threads are goin to come.

It's kind of stupid how after 200lb we just ignore size difference Wow look at that big guy floyd fighting http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/5123e865d8c87d72245c3df0c36766c2b6cf30b6/c=136-576-1434-2306&r=537&c=0-0-534-712/local/-/media/USATODAY/test/2013/09/14/1379200745000-09-14-2013-Mayweather-Alvarez.jpg Haye is a gay coward http://www.livefight.com/images/pages/1309617010klit-haye.jpg http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01518/Valuev-Haye_1518459c.jpg

The difference between a 210 man and a 250 man is worse than the difference between a 150 man and a 160 man. not really, that's not at all how it works. the 250 lb man might be bigger, but truthfully not may 250lb men are healthy. the klitchskos are just freaks of nature. and world class 250 lb boxer is a rare site. same for 210 lb men as well. now the difference from 150 to 170 factors in a whole lot of possibilities as far as size and muscle. its not at all the same thing.

I love the days immediately following a floyd victory. The threads you get are always filled with sad, depressed whiners. To parapharase schaeffer at the press conference: "ypou know the stupid threads (questions) are going to come" Perhaps i should have said "Haye is best pound for pound active fighter", to not just single out Mayweather and Pacquiao. Everything i said has been factual. The same doesn't apply for your post.

oh my god,man stop!!!!!..he is a damn heavyweight and there is no weight limit..once you are a 200 pound man you can ko anyone..Jesus christ man ya'll are getting sad on here. and floyd is a small ww,he came in the fight at 150..garcia and Matthysee out weighted him and they fight at 140...and why in the hell would he fight GGG? dude is a HBO fighter first off,second off he os a middleweight,3rd off he aint beat no 1 He's a cruiserweight and is also a small heavyweight.