Response to the notion of there being a lucky punch.

To add to that, Imagine if Paulie Malignaggi knocked out Adrien Broner in their last fight, would that be considered a lucky punch?

Case in point, Sergio Martinez boxed the breaks off JCC Jr then in the 12th rd JCC caught him with a lucky shot that knocked him down and almost resulted in a KO. We all know Floyd is gonna box the breaks off Canelo what if for some reason Floyd makes a stupid mistake, something he wouldn't normally do that results in Canelo knocking him out. That is a lucky punch. Yes there is such a thing as a lucky punch. What JMM did to Pac was the same thing, the previous 3 fights JMM never floored Pac much less hurt him then all of a sudden he has knockout power. The reason why its called a lucky punch is because no one is expecting it, the fans are not expecting it nor the fighter on the other end of it. Garcia vs Mathysse, someone is getting knocked the F*%$ Out, no lucky punch there because it is expected.

I agree. The idea of a lucky punch in boxing is preposterous. You're literally in a sport where punches are thrown with intentions of hurting your opponent, and so when someone actually does throw a punch that hurts an opponent it's attributed to luck? That makes absolutely no sense. This entire phenomenon is obviously stemming from Marquez's counter right hand against Pacquiao. You know, the same counter right hand that he dropped his sparring partner with in training camp. You don't throw a perfectly timed, full power right hand and knock out an ATG fighter based on happenstance. Marquez is a legendary fighter, and to say that he got lucky is just idiotic, no matter if you're a fan of his or not (I'm not really a fan). Lucky punches don't exist in boxing, just like lucky home runs don't exist in baseball, lucky touchdowns in football and lucky 1st place finishes in a foot race.

Lucky is Danielsan catching the fly with chopsticks on his first try Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

Ok......but there are times when fighters are hopelessly down on the cards and have been fortunate enough to have caught an opponent with an effective shot and score a ko. But that's what they train for. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

well i would say if you throw flurries of punches like how Bradley was doign against Provodnikov and it landed it connected to KO him cold, that could be somewhat lucky. Bradley was KNOCKED OUT on his feet and you can see his eyes were not looking and just throwing, so if one landed it could be lucky that Marquez shot NOT LUCKY, he landed that right hand throughout the fight and in sparring. And it was not a flurry, it was intentional and planned as part of his trap of the feints

****"From Wikipedia: A lucky punch would be a mugger sneaking up behind you about to stab you and rape your girlfriend, meanwhile you're telling her about a fish you caught one time and as you spread your arms you catch the would be mugger square on the jaw and lay him out. In boxing, every punch is intended to hurt the other guy. I would never use the term "lucky" in boxing."**** I believe that everyone is wrong. Even WITH control, will, intention, and desired (hoped for) result, a wished for happening can very often not happen-especially in boxing. I also think that this thread was intended to legitimise Marquez' lucky punch which KO'd MannyP but that's "by the way". I very definitely believe that it was a lucky punch. Having boxed for years, I know that it can happen. And it's generally very unexpected especially by the thrower, but of course, very welcome. The example given by the Thread starter is typically a too good one. The mugger is creeping up BEHIND. In this case there's no way that spreading your arms (indicating size would spread them out sideways) would either hit the guy and especially KO him. Even assuming that you had "special" elbows which were jointed equally backwards, Your hands would not be closed because you are demonstrating length. And even if they were, they would not be tight and tensed You call it "luck", bit I call it it an as yet undiscovered miracle of Physics.... say... "magic". In other words...impossible-except in a well rehearsed comedy routine.... And you'd have to assume the guy had a chin worse than Khan or Maskaev. As for the Marquez punch, it COULD happen, but was still unlikely. Say, similar to a gambler turning up the same number on a roulette wheel 3 times in a row. With all the will, intention and desire possible, it would still be rare enough to be regarded as sheer luck, that the missile would meet the object at the exact time and place,without being a micro-millimetre too high or too low, or to one side, not a micro-second too soon or too late.....etc. It could happen, but..... Marquez had probably thrown similar punches hundreds of times in his 4 fights. So that it should land once, with the correct impetus, when MannyP is falling forward from a trip, is sheer luck. There is a point-of-impact photo which anti-Pacquiao crazies have drooled over here. It clearly shows that Pacquiao fell forward, face first; (the video shows that the cause was a trip over Marquez' foot) it also shows that at the point of impact, Marquez' head (which contain his eyes) was already past ManntP's body, and he could have had no idea where the punch was landing. The similar punch which KD MannyP earlier was not exactly the same, because the positions were different, and MannyP didn't trip over a foot. You all can call it what you like, but I call it "luck".

When the purpose of a sport is to punch the other guy, it feels dumb to call a punch lucky. EXACTLY! Well I guess we couldn't, every punch is kind of planned, but sometimes you don't expect the guy to be knocked unconscious for a few minutes lol Lol that's my point. Just cuz we don't or didn't expect it doesn't make it lucky. Ok......but there are times when fighters are hopelessly down on the cards and have been fortunate enough to have caught an opponent with an effective shot and score a ko. It's still not a lucky punch. That fighter did what he had to do. "Just cuz we don't or didn't expect it doesn't make it lucky"

I think the term "lucky punch" is generally used by people who are bitter at seeing their fighter get caught with a big shot lol it can happen to anyone.

Ok......but there are times when fighters are hopelessly down on the cards and have been fortunate enough to have caught an opponent with an effective shot and score a ko. In a lot of those scenarios, the guy winning comfortably gets careless. No luck involved.

No punches are lucky. They are thrown with the intention of hurting the opponent. If they do so, they have accomplished their goal.

eyes, mind and soul completely focused on my target, i crushed the wrapper in my hand, took my freethrow stance, *i can do this i told myself*, having missed it the previous 5 tries as i go to throw, i get nudged, *sht, i thought* wrapper gone airborne, my sister, the twat wasn't looking where she was walking....but wait, although the trajectory is way off...it hits the wall, it hits the microwave, hits the washing machine and...AND.... OH MY GAWD I DID IT!

How would we know if the punch is unplanned or not? Well I guess we couldn't, every punch is kind of planned, but sometimes you don't expect the guy to be knocked unconscious for a few minutes lol

When the purpose of a sport is to punch the other guy, it feels dumb to call a punch lucky.

There is no such thing as luck in boxing. I once heard this saying in reference to that: "Luck is when opportunity meets preparation" If i fought pac 10x i would never get as "lucky" as marquez did. Why? Because while i got the opportunity i would probably never be properly prepared because i am not a pro fighter.

Good Idea. I think of a lucky punch as "you are getting your ass beat until you throw an unplanned punch and manage to stop the guy in his tracks". Obviously it isn't just luck but it would be the same as catching a football in the endzone from really far away or something like that. How would we know if the punch is unplanned or not?

Good Idea. I think of a lucky punch as "you are getting your ass beat until you throw an unplanned punch and manage to stop the guy in his tracks". Obviously it isn't just luck but it would be the same as catching a football in the endzone from really far away or something like that.