are we talking p4p or their position on ATG list, if the former easily floyd, if the latter IMHO it is still Pac, heck even if floyd & Pac fight and jr beat the crap out of Manny, it will still be arguable who is on top of the ATG list...
I am talking ATG and Floyd resume is better and if they fight and Floyd wins(which he would easily) there is no damn argument at all..how do ya'll come up with this sh1t like Manny beat Ali or something? Barerra had a metal plate in his damn head and Morales beat him the 1st time..Manny only wins over Morales came off of Morales losses...
LOL at people still using Ring p4p rankings when they are owned by golden boy hahaha. Anyway i think Floyd would beat Manny prime for prime quite comfortably but Manny has the better top wins imo.I listed both top wins..how does Manny win?
Floyd faught coming off a loss zab
,small marquez (scale cheated),
Quitter ortiz,
Lame ghost, and inexperienced canelo.
Old shane off a huge layoff????
Floyd never beat a prime hall of famer .
Paul williams , margarito, pacman and kostya
Were all waiting for a call, floyd ran to vacation and retirement.
Legacy sealed
Ok Manny GOT KO'D by that same small Marquez
fougth an EVEN OLDR NONE CHAMPION MOSLEY
Is fighting a small 0 fights a ww none elite Rios
Lost to Bradley who was unranked at ww
never fought Paul Williams..and Fought AN UNRANKED COMING OFF OF A BRUTAL KO AND A SUSPENSION MARGO AT A 150 CATCHWEIGHT FOR A VACANT MADE UP TITLE
Hasnt fought a damn ww since 2011 and hasnt fought a ww champion since 2009
How can you down floyd and big up manny??it is impossible
since 2009 floyd has face the
#1 154 fighter(cotto)
the 154 champ(canelo)
the #2 ww-2 times-(guerrero,ortiz
the #1 (lineal)ww(Mosley)
Manny has faced
the #2 ww (cotto)2009
and thats it
are we talking p4p or their position on ATG list, if the former easily floyd, if the latter IMHO it is still Pac, heck even if floyd & Pac fight and jr beat the crap out of Manny, it will still be arguable who is on top of the ATG list...
Floyd faught coming off a loss zab
,small marquez (scale cheated),
Quitter ortiz,
Lame ghost, and inexperienced canelo.
Old shane off a huge layoff????
Floyd never beat a prime hall of famer .
Paul williams , margarito, pacman and kostya
Were all waiting for a call, floyd ran to vacation and retirement.
Legacy sealed
LOL at people still using Ring p4p rankings when they are owned by golden boy hahaha. Anyway i think Floyd would beat Manny prime for prime quite comfortably but Manny has the better top wins imo.
Manny WAS winning especially after the Cotto fight, but he sold out with fights against Clottey, Margarito, Mosley, Marquez all fights that he did not need and just listend to bob for money. and guys were coming off losses
May came out of retirement and took back the #1 spot with victories against guys coming after big wins or wins, Marquez, Mosley (everyone duckd him after Marg), Ortiz a win, Cotto 2 straight wins, Canelo.
Pacquiao needs to KO not beat Bradey or Marquez AND either Martinez/Canelo or Mayweather to take back that NUMBER 1 SPOT....LUDA!!!
lol the 2 straight losses on paper did not help either
Manny has more divisions conqured.
Floyd faught all those guys beside average corrales and castillo
On the down side of their careers or with a stipulation.
Floyds resume isnt very good after 135.
Its solid . It has big names, but they were b and c fighters by then .
Hatton was a c plus fighter at 147.
Hatton striggled and imo lost to collazo
And zab got his arce handed to him by a
Old slow c fighter.
Manny faught everyone below 147 at their best .
He beat a better younger version of cotto,
And he faught a big margarito in whom Floyd Avoided.
Manny came up from lower in weight and accomlished more.
Floyd is top 35 but cant possibly pass 30 imo unless
He were to beat b hop and martinez.
Manny is top 30 right now. About 29th
Hatton was a c plus fighter when he fought floyd , got KTFO, and then manny fought him and he was better. huh?
was cotto better when he fought floyd after manny KO'd him?
you also didn't mention the losses to morales and JMM and the JMM draw.
I remember bout 3 years back Manny would be up by 40-50 votes..Now Floyd is up..why?
keep it real man,Floyd came back in 2009 focused on retiring as the greatest and i think he will go for the jugular....Martinez at 160
Manny has more divisions conqured.
Floyd faught all those guys beside average corrales and castillo
On the down side of their careers or with a stipulation.
Floyds resume isnt very good after 135.
Its solid . It has big names, but they were b and c fighters by then .
Hatton was a c plus fighter at 147.
Hatton striggled and imo lost to collazo
And zab got his arce handed to him by a
Old slow c fighter.
Manny faught everyone below 147 at their best .
He beat a better younger version of cotto,
And he faught a big margarito in whom Floyd Avoided.
Manny came up from lower in weight and accomlished more.
Floyd is top 35 but cant possibly pass 30 imo unless
He were to beat b hop and martinez.
Manny is top 30 right now. About 29th
If floyd fought everyone on the downslide then when did Manny fight them since he fought Molsey,Oscar,and Hatton AFTER FLOYD??
Floyd has more world titles then Manny
Just as manny divisonal lineal titles as manny
More lineal titles then Manny since he has 5(2 times at ww)
And he is still going...
and you say Manny is top 30???let me see your list..post it
How can you even rank these fighters when Floyd is still playing catch up.
Pac had 17 fights since 2006 (Rios included)
Floyd had 10 fights since 2006
so doesnt that make Manny look worse when we compare resumes and titles head to head....Floyd has just as manny lineal titles and more world titles by far
You can do the same when he fought barrera and morales. they were both on the downside of their career and morales still beat him. marg clottey .
This is an easy answer. Floyd fights people at the top, not people coming off losses. Floyd will go down as one of the best ever. Hopkins said hes top 3 all time. Manny is way down the list. Not even top 20
more fights doesnt mean anything. Floyd retired as the best in 2007. Hes always been better than manny. Manny was on top of the boxing world for like 3 yrs and couldnt clearly beat JMM. Floyd dismantled him easy.
How can manny be the best if he cant beat JMM?
Manny has more divisions conqured.
Floyd faught all those guys beside average corrales and castillo
On the down side of their careers or with a stipulation.
Floyds resume isnt very good after 135.
Its solid . It has big names, but they were b and c fighters by then .
Hatton was a c plus fighter at 147.
Hatton striggled and imo lost to collazo
And zab got his arce handed to him by a
Old slow c fighter.
Manny faught everyone below 147 at their best .
He beat a better younger version of cotto,
And he faught a big margarito in whom Floyd Avoided.
Manny came up from lower in weight and accomlished more.
Floyd is top 35 but cant possibly pass 30 imo unless
He were to beat b hop and martinez.
Manny is top 30 right now. About 29th
no ledwaba? sasakul who was the lineal champ? one-dimensional underdog becoming champ? i'd say those victories have to be noted
I agree, they should be. Mayweather's wins over Genaro Hernandez and JMM should be noted too.