Hey guys, as you probably already know, one time heavyweight champ and fan favorite Tommy Morrison passed away this past sunday night. RIP Duke.
This poll is to honor him in a way and see how most of us believed he would have fared against the current lineal heavyweight champ Wladimir Klitschko at his absolute best. That left hook was as good as they get and he had heart and stamina.
Personally, I think he would have done very well against the pre-Steward Wladimir and could have possibly stopped him.
That said, no way he's competitive vs. the current version of Wlad.
Vote. Discuss. Thanks.
I feel that sympathy for Tommy due to his passing may be clouding you're opinion. Vlad and Vitali are just better that Tommy on his best day. Now had you said prime Bowe I'd be interested.
I totally agree, but as you know, lesser fighters than Morrison were able to get to an earlier version of Wladimir. Maybe Tommy could have too. He was relentless and was a murderous puncher.
Brewster took every punch that Morrison couldn't and would've gotten knocked out against. Big difference.
Maybe, but maybe not. Morrison had pretty good head movement.
I feel that sympathy for Tommy due to his passing may be clouding you're opinion. Vlad and Vitali are just better that Tommy on his best day. Now had you said prime Bowe I'd be interested.
Three things stupid???? ..Hell you've said more than three things, goatboy!
Having respect for a man who just past comes from being raised with dignity and respect but I guess when your raised by goats you just don't understand.
.... is your real name Boxing Goatboy?
Is that supposed to be a Baaaaaaaadd name? I got something to dip in your gib you lil piece of crap!
insensitive moron!!! Goatboy! Ray.
I didnt see anything in the thread starters post disrespecting morrison. you know people are entitled to there opinions anyway. you really need to chill out
Three things stupid???? ..Hell you've said more than three things, goatboy!
Having respect for a man who just past comes from being raised with dignity and respect but I guess when your raised by goats you just don't understand.
.... is your real name Boxing Goatboy?
Is that supposed to be a Baaaaaaaadd name? I got something to dip in your gib you lil piece of crap!
insensitive moron!!! Goatboy! Ray.
I'm not sure what you took from this whole thread but it has clearly sailed right over your little brain filled noggin. Sorry to perplex you so, why don't you suck it up and go bother somebody else you smarta55 jerk.
Somebody who doesn't take themselves so seriously on a phucking website.
Three things stupid???? ..Hell you've said more than three things, goatboy!
Having respect for a man who just past comes from being raised with dignity and respect but I guess when your raised by goats you just don't understand.
.... is your real name Boxing Goatboy?
Is that supposed to be a Baaaaaaaadd name? I got something to dip in your gib you lil piece of crap!
insensitive moron!!! Goatboy! Ray.
I appreciate that.
Two things, I don't rule out the possibility of a Wlad win. Just some of the responses here undervaluing Morrison left a sour taste in my mouth. I wanna make that clear.
Regarding Lewis, that was partly how good Lewis was and just a poor game plan and lack of focus from Morrison. He stood outside way too much letting a prime Lewis tee off on him. I'm sure he'd would've liked to have done that one over.
I agree, Morrison could have done a lot better if he just weaved and rushed Lewis with combinations instead of trying to outbox one of the best heavyweight boxers of all time.
Great way to honor your favorite fighter!!! The man just lost his life and you drag his name through some bll **** comparison on a forum???? Thats real respectfull!!!! Rest in peace Tommy! Ray Corso
Three things stupid:
1) I never said Tommy was my favorite fighter.
2) I started the thread to see who all feels the same way about the situation as I do. If you have a problem with that, then see your way outta here.
3) I know who wrote your post so it's not really necessary to sign your screen name at the end dipsh*t.
Great way to honor your favorite fighter!!! The man just lost his life and you drag his name through some bll **** comparison on a forum???? Thats real respectfull!!!! Rest in peace Tommy! Ray Corso
I think Tommy blasts pre Steward Wlad out faster than Sanders did and I think he still has a legit shot at present day Wlad.Im not sure even todays Wlad could handle Tommys speed or power.
Tommy's problem was focus not talent. I really think the only fight he ever really, really trained for was Foreman.What a colossal waste. Could he have been a top ten all timer? No, probably not but he could have handled alot of the guys from the nineties and whitewashed every one of the bums fighting today save Vitali.
There seems to be too much emphasis being placed on a trainer here. Last I checked, Wlad got chin checked by Peter, Williamson and Brewster all while being trained by Steward. Emmanuel didn't improve Wlads defense, all he did was teach him to hold on for dear life and protect his weak chin and lack of heart.
Morrison was a dog. He knew how to bob and weave his way inside and hit like a truck. Wlad has a chance because he's strong, but Morrison was much more explosive and knew how to bust up weak chinned fighters like Wlad. Brewster was slower, fatter and nowhere near as good as Morrison and he kicked the **** out of Wlad.
Steward can't get in there and fight for him, so this is a dumb premise to hinge so much on.
Prime for prime its a 50/50 fight. Morrison's best chances are in the first five rounds, if Wlad survives that, then maybe he wins. But lets not pretend Wlad is better than he is or that Emmanuel Steward did anything but teach him how to fight safe. Wlad's opponents have been a joke anyway and he still goes 12 dull rounds with them. Tommy was a fast starter with a killer instinct. Very possible he sparks Wlad like Sanders did.
Given your opinion, and it is the first one that gives Morrison a real chance...How do you factor in the Lewis fight?
Thanx I really am curious because you say some interesting things and...I noticed watching film that when Morrison was young dumb and full of.... and fighting all those six rounders, he was figting guys who could really move, and he was indeed able to catch them easily.
You're off base here. Sure Tommy has a chance, which is my point, but only before Wlad really hit his stride. Todays version of Wlad would crush even the best Tommy I'm afraid. I have no problem admitting that. He's just too strong, too big, too skilled and too damn smart to get beaten by a good small heavyweight like Morrision was.
Now, whether it was the losses that wisened Wlad up or the trainer, it doesn't matter. There's no arguing the FACT that he's been perfect every since Brewster (Stewards 1st fight with Wlad) and has faced good top ten opposition most of the time since.
He's faced better top 10 comp than his overrated brother, that's for sure. Calling it good....that's pushing it! :lol1:
To me, he was a threat. Is Wlad a better fighter now? Definitely.
Was he better before? Yes, but he was vulnerable.
And so wasn't Morrison yet you keep looking past this to give Tommy a chance. As I've already said, any fighter has a punchers chance. But when you put this fight in its proper context its going to come down to Wlads jab controlling the fight and his heavy hands ending it. You of course don't want to debate this and it's understandable why.
There seems to be too much emphasis being placed on a trainer here. Last I checked, Wlad got chin checked by Peter, Williamson and Brewster all while being trained by Steward. Emmanuel didn't improve Wlads defense, all he did was teach him to hold on for dear life and protect his weak chin and lack of heart.
Morrison was a dog. He knew how to bob and weave his way inside and hit like a truck. Wlad has a chance because he's strong, but Morrison was much more explosive and knew how to bust up weak chinned fighters like Wlad. Brewster was slower, fatter and nowhere near as good as Morrison and he kicked the **** out of Wlad.
Steward can't get in there and fight for him, so this is a dumb premise to hinge so much on.
Prime for prime its a 50/50 fight. Morrison's best chances are in the first five rounds, if Wlad survives that, then maybe he wins. But lets not pretend Wlad is better than he is or that Emmanuel Steward did anything but teach him how to fight safe. Wlad's opponents have been a joke anyway and he still goes 12 dull rounds with them. Tommy was a fast starter with a killer instinct. Very possible he sparks Wlad like Sanders did.
You're off base here. Sure Tommy has a chance, which is my point, but only before Wlad really hit his stride. Todays version of Wlad would crush even the best Tommy I'm afraid. I have no problem admitting that. He's just too strong, too big, too skilled and too damn smart to get beaten by a good small heavyweight like Morrision was.
Now, whether it was the losses that wisened Wlad up or the trainer, it doesn't matter. There's no arguing the FACT that he's been perfect every since Brewster (Stewards 1st fight with Wlad) and has faced good top ten opposition most of the time since.
I agree Tommy's hugely dangerous against pre-Steward Wlad. But it could've just as easily been Wlad's night as Tommy's then. Way less dangerous against current Wlad. Still dangerous though. Wlad's defense was still better before Steward. You can't get accurate results though on a poll like this right after a guy dies probably.
This is my point, there are those who think Tommy had the tools to give pre-Steward Wlad real problems.
The timing of the poll is what it is. Like I said, in a way it's a tribute thread to Tommy. He was a murderous puncher and could close the gap on another fighter very quickly.
To me, he was a threat. Is Wlad a better fighter now? Definitely.
Was he better before? Yes, but he was vulnerable.
Lets not overrate Tommy just because he is dead,he would get his ass whopped
Maybe, but wasn't Tommy a better fighter than Brewster? He managed to beat a less disciplined Wlad.
morrison was clearly in lala land against bentt. that said...I think morrison beats bentt 9 out of 10 times. he hurt bentt so easilly but just got careless trying to finish him off and got caught walking in
He was buzzed enough to go down but the fight ended with him getting up. He wasn't hurt enough to have stopped him without the 3 kd rule.
morrisons stamina was the worst part of his game. he tended to get arm weary after just 3 or 4 rounds
He was always going for the kill. That's what fans wanted. He was a lot like Tyson, but to me, he had better stamina and didn't have a poor chin.
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