Why does Pacman get criticized for being loyal to Arum but...

I just have to tune off this site, I just can't stand it. The abysmal ignorance is just too much. It's as if I was trying to explain the reason for rain to a 3 year old.

Actually both Marquez and Mosley were forced to sign with top rank in order to make a fight with pac. They weren't forced to sign anything. In case you don't know...and it seems as if you don't, boxing is a business and the name of the game is MONEy. They were made good enough offers that they just could not refuse. That's business...simpleton. And....by the way....nobody can force anybody to do ANYTHING in boxing...unless it's in the contract. Dumbo.

How about accompanying your lies with a few facts. It never stops and never will. The low level of intelligence of the average fan on this site is appalling. When I joined up there were many, indeed mostly intelligent and knowledgeable posters. They nearly all have been shoved out by the sweepings of the other sites. Arum has made Pacquiao a multi millionaire many times over with enough money and property for the next 10 generations, as well as given him ambition to make himself into something after boxing. Arum campaigned for him in the Philippines. Marvin Hagler the same-he was with Arum from the very beginning to the end. When Don King crept up to Hagler's wife to get him to sign with King, Hagler told her "...if you interfere with my business again I'll stop supporting your mother...". And that was that. Educate them edgarg!

After years on this site I'm still wondering if Pac-Boy and Check_hooks are master trolls or the most retarted boxing fans ever http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Charlie-Murphy-Laughing-Chappelles-Show-Prince.gif

Didn't Manny get BADLY screwed on money by Bob? He is one of the most popular boxers of all time and was supposedly hurting for money... How about accompanying your lies with a few facts. It never stops and never will. The low level of intelligence of the average fan on this site is appalling. When I joined up there were many, indeed mostly intelligent and knowledgeable posters. They nearly all have been shoved out by the sweepings of the other sites. Arum has made Pacquiao a multi millionaire many times over with enough money and property for the next 10 generations, as well as given him ambition to make himself into something after boxing. Arum campaigned for him in the Philippines. Marvin Hagler the same-he was with Arum from the very beginning to the end. When Don King crept up to Hagler's wife to get him to sign with King, Hagler told her "...if you interfere with my business again I'll stop supporting your mother...". And that was that.

Al Haymon is basically Floyd's boss. 50 cent said that he gives Floyd an allowance Bob Arum is a promoter which works for the fighter. Pacquiao is Bob Arum's boss. You mean bob arum the one that visionquest found is stealing from paquiao and has paquiaos adviser in his payroll? Lmfao! " hummm ahhhh i fight who my plomotel says hmmm ahhh " How sad, arum is pimping the future president of the pelepens...

same ole bs dissing al haymon just because floyd is aligned with him but protecting a man who famously said ''i was lying then but i'm telling the truth now'' if that isn't the most slimest thing i've heard i don't know what is. what's funny is bob arum refused to make the margarito, delahoya and cotto fight when floyd asked for it but floyd is the one who ducked them. You don't really know what "slimy" is until you've dug deep into boxing. You cretinous crappers keep digging up that "lying" yarn not realising that it was a quick off-the-cuff quip by Arum. You don't even know the cirsumstances because you don't really follow boxing, you follow Phoney Phloyd and Arum haters. Let me tell you what it was all about. After a long night out with a load of newspaper reporters who all, including Arum, got a good bit soused Arum told them a few inside stories but STRICTLY off the record. At a news gathering the next day Arum was asked something which was one of the "off the record" yarns and he denied it. The reporter, strictly against his promise said "...you said something different last night..." And Arum, instead of being held up and embarrassed as the reporter intended, quickly shot back, "...well, I was lying yesterday and telling the truth today...". It was pretty sharp of him but only garbage chasers like you keep digging it out. And it was about 25 years ago...maybe more.

Al Haymon is basically Floyd's boss. 50 cent said that he gives Floyd an allowance Bob Arum is a promoter which works for the fighter. Pacquiao is Bob Arum's boss. Pacquiao is Bob Arum's boss. After years on this site I'm still wondering if Pac-Boy and Check_hooks are master trolls or the most retarted boxing fans ever

i'm completely neutral when it comes to floyd and manny. i like them both. but it is undeniable that floyd is the one that always came up with **** to prevent the fight. if it wasn't leaving arum it was drug testing. if it wasn't that it was the purse split. i don't believe for second floyd was scared of him though. i just think he has a massive ego and doesn't want to give in on anything. but you can't treat pacquiao like you do victor ortiz or robert guerrero. pacquiao is a superstar in his own right.

It's okay for Floyd Mayweather to be loyal to that shady character Al Haymon? The truth is Pacman never said in order for me to make this fight with Floyd he has to leave Al Haymon, the only one here is making up an unreal demand is Floyd, why should Pac have to leave his promoter to make the fight? I never heard Floyd demand other fighters to leave their promoter, imagine of the shoe was on the other foot and Pacman said I will not do business with Floyd unless he leaves Haymon and golden boy and signs with Top Rank what type of responses would people have? Actually both Marquez and Mosley were forced to sign with top rank in order to make a fight with pac.

Floyd never demanded testing until Pacquiao and when the Pacquiao fight fell through he fought Marquez with no testing. If Pacquiao had agreed to the exact testing Mayweather wanted in 2010 then I believe Floyd with have put up some other roadblock to the fight. Later when Pacquiao agreed to be tested any way Floyd wanted Floyd demanded almost all of the money go to him. For whatever his reason it's clear to me that Mayweather never wanted to fight Pacquiao and he still doesn't want to fight him so the fight will never happen. Everybody else fought Pacquiao with no special testing.

It's okay for Floyd Mayweather to be loyal to that shady character Al Haymon? http://gamedayr.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/floyd-mayweather-cash-stacks-570x427.jpg

Why do people keep beating a dead horse? Both sides played a part in the fight not happening, you'd be a fool to believe otherwise. Since no one here actually took part in the negotiations or reviewed the official contracts, all of the information being quoted should be considered hearsay at best. The fight wouldn't mean much now anyway because if Mayweather wins people will say that Pac was damaged goods.

Floyd vs Manny.........AGAIN???? , i dont understand how/why people say Floyd is scared of this guy. Floyd has over 90 amateur fights, soon to be 45 pro fights, WTF is Manny gonna do that Floyd hasn't seen yet. How do u get to Floyd level being scared of anybody? Haymon is Floyds manager, jus like Cam Dunkin is Bradleys manager, Konz is Mannys manager. Floyd is his own boss. He works with GBP not for them. Thats why he can say **** Oscar and nothing can happen to him, let anyone signed to GBP say it and watch what happens to them Bottom line is Manny should've taken the 40 mil, before his dumb ass got KO'd, this fight couldve been made a long time ago. Nobody seems to remember Freddie Roach dumb ass sayin Floyd cant make 147 anymore and they wanted a stipulation for 1 mil per pound over 147, Floyd says cool, take this drug test, Manny whose had a million punches thrown at his head says i dont want to be stuck with needles that many times, ......But Floyd is scared of thiis guy, SMH........ Hey floydiot ALT, Offering Pac $40m without the ppv share is just like Floyd saying on VIDEOS "Pac you are next but I never said that." Think about this, Pac has Nike, HP, Henessy, etc... vs Floyd what? a LAME LOTTO SODA? LMAO! Not to mention Pac accomplishments inside and out (beloved congressman to his country, 8 divisions champ, 4 lineal champ, Fighter of the Decade) vs Floyd prison award for beating women? In fact, Pac should be the one offering Floyd $40m without the PPV shares. GTFO! Just pray Showtime will not lose money again in Floyd's remaining contract fights or lose to Canelo because you can kiss his ass goodbye with his boring style.

It's okay for Floyd Mayweather to be loyal to that shady character Al Haymon? The truth is Pacman never said in order for me to make this fight with Floyd he has to leave Al Haymon, the only one here is making up an unreal demand is Floyd, why should Pac have to leave his promoter to make the fight? I never heard Floyd demand other fighters to leave their promoter, imagine of the shoe was on the other foot and Pacman said I will not do business with Floyd unless he leaves Haymon and golden boy and signs with Top Rank what type of responses would people have? Simple. He was so terrified of Pac and made almost to impossible demands to kill this fight. Pea brain size floydiots though can't figure this out. "Pac you are next but I never said that but I know I'm a coward but rich coward." Pac will be Floyd's biggest money fight bigger than Oscar or against any fighter for an "easy money easy fight" according to him and the floydiots. Then why the hell he made all these ridiculous demands for what?

Floyd vs Manny.........AGAIN???? , i dont understand how/why people say Floyd is scared of this guy. Floyd has over 90 amateur fights, soon to be 45 pro fights, WTF is Manny gonna do that Floyd hasn't seen yet. How do u get to Floyd level being scared of anybody? Haymon is Floyds manager, jus like Cam Dunkin is Bradleys manager, Konz is Mannys manager. Floyd is his own boss. He works with GBP not for them. Thats why he can say **** Oscar and nothing can happen to him, let anyone signed to GBP say it and watch what happens to them Bottom line is Manny should've taken the 40 mil, before his dumb ass got KO'd, this fight couldve been made a long time ago. Nobody seems to remember Freddie Roach dumb ass sayin Floyd cant make 147 anymore and they wanted a stipulation for 1 mil per pound over 147, Floyd says cool, take this drug test, Manny whose had a million punches thrown at his head says i dont want to be stuck with needles that many times, ......But Floyd is scared of thiis guy, SMH........

It's okay for Floyd Mayweather to be loyal to that shady character Al Haymon? The truth is Pacman never said in order for me to make this fight with Floyd he has to leave Al Haymon, the only one here is making up an unreal demand is Floyd, why should Pac have to leave his promoter to make the fight? I never heard Floyd demand other fighters to leave their promoter, imagine of the shoe was on the other foot and Pacman said I will not do business with Floyd unless he leaves Haymon and golden boy and signs with Top Rank what type of responses would people have? Who says Floyd is serious about the offer? They look good on paper when in reality it's one of those millions of bluffs Floyd had thrown during the last three years. Every time Pacman calls his bluff, Floyd either flip flops or comes up with another. Just recently he was asked about it and said Pac blew his chance. "That's probably how I was feeling at that particular time," Mayweather said to writer David Mayo of Mlive. "I'm only human. Floyd Mayweather does contradict himself. I'm only human. I'm not perfect. I mean, I think we all do. How are things today? He's not going to get a chance to fight me. I was feeling that way weeks ago. Now, I'm feeling like I wouldn't even give him a chance. He had a chance, he blew it, so that's what it is." http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-no-shot-pacquiao-he-blew-his-chance--68731 :unitedsta

Goldenboy basically does as he says. I'm curious as to how you come to this conclusion???GBP>>>>Haymon & TMT

i never said anything against 50 cent after he and floyd's drama all that seemed to fake to me to even care. i diss arum because the guy is the one who is actually shady he's bribed the ibf president for christ sake!! he's been raided by the freaking fbi!!!! he's called mma fighters white skinheads and said they were homos rolling around. but here you are calling haymon the shady one lol name one shady thing haymon has done that compares? if you notice(or didn't) i stay out of most of floyd vs pac bs it's to much drama but to create this thread and defend arum like he's been unjustly attacked is laughable. Floyd bribed Manny, "I'll give your 40 million, thats it, no PPV. Just 40 million."

same ole bs dissing al haymon just because floyd is aligned with him but protecting a man who famously said ''i was lying then but i'm telling the truth now'' if that isn't the most slimest thing i've heard i don't know what is. what's funny is bob arum refused to make the margarito, delahoya and cotto fight when floyd asked for it but floyd is the one who ducked them. I do. "Pacquiao, you're next" "I never said that".