There is talk of A khan going up in weight and how this may improve his chin, so my question is- can this happen for a fighter? Are there any examples of where this has worked?
Hearns never really seemed to improve his chin going up in weight from what I remember.
if you are draining yourself to make weight absolutely. look at cotto moving up from 140 to 147.
i dont think thats the issue with khans chin though, as far as i know he doesnr kill himself to make 140 anyways. just a case of an average chin and really poor defense.
It depends, if a fighter moves up in weight, it can strengthen his legs and his neck, two things needed for a good "chin". Anybody who gets hit flush on the jaw/chin area by a big hitter is going down, how he recovers from that punch, can he get back up? can he stay on his feet without looking funny? That all comes down to fitness, strength of the fighters legs and neck and natural God given physique.
Guys like Hagler, Ali and prime Leonard could take HUGE shots and not even look like going down or go down flash but be back up. Khan in his recent fight was taking average shots and looked troubled every time, with him I do think it's a weight issue and who ever is conditioning him needs to work on his legs and neck area.
It's an interesting question, and I think some good possible answers have been given. I'm going to speculate that, in addition to what's already been said, a fighter's higher body mass allows more absorption of force to the head. I believe that a fighter's chin does improve as he goes up in weight. The trouble is that there are generally harder punchers at the higher weights.
It actually can improve your chin in two ways (one being the weight thing mentioned above).
Secondly, fighters in higher weight classes tend to be less explosive and slower than those in lower weight classes. You're less likely to get clipped with a shot you don't see as the punches slow down. Guys hit harder, sure, but not with the same dynamism of the lower weights. This alone can give the illusion of your chin improving, when it actually doesn't. Perceived improvement is still improvement though, especially in boxing.
I think Hayes chin got better at Heavyweight
he has been "down" unfficialy against ruiz and barett but i think they were slips more than anything else, but at CW he was getting splattered by Llenga Mock, now he took flush rights off Wlad
I don't think he was down vs Ruiz. I know some people say that, but I don't buy it. I'm not entirely sure on this one though, he's just way more cautious as a heavyweight than as a CW. As a cruiser, he wasn't afraid to get into a war. Generally ,he was the biggest guy 9/10 times and he was the hardest puncher as well. At heavy he's more cautious.
But you could see he had been working on his traps before the Wlad fight. They were huge. That normally helps your body absorb blows a bit better. But he didn't take too many clean shots vs Wlad, and if he did he would have gone down.
One thing about Haye though, he's never really been knocked down clean. Lolenga mock is probably the cleanest KD he's taken,
If a fighter is fighting at a weight that is way too light then moving up to a natural weight would probably improve their ability take head punches.Fighters make very low weights be drying out. Less fluids taken in means less fluids to cushion the brain from hard blows or so I have heard. In Khan's case I think he just has a weak chin no matter what weight class he fights in. As he goes up in weight he has to fight heavier harder punching guys so the chances of him being KOed increase.
It will help if the fighter has had trouble making the weight.
Hearns didn't have a bad chin though, I think that's a totally overblown myth. He got stopped more due to tiredness than a weak chin, imo. Ray Leonard didn't take him out until the 14th round, Hagler was a strong, hard punching guy who took him out in an all out war. Barkley... well, sometimes you just get caught with a big shot. I don't think his chin was bad at all.
Khan, the example you used, has already improved his chin by moving up. Although he seems to be getting wobbled by every taxi-driver he encounters these days, when he first moved up to 140 his chin was much better, imo. When he was at lightweight he got dropped hard by guys like Michael Gomez and Willie Limond, then he moves up to 140 and manages to survive an onslaught for Maidana. I think he drained himself to get to LW and weakened himself as a result, it could be that he has not outgrown 140 and needs to move up to 147.
His chin still won't be good though, he just won't be doing a chicken dance every time a strong gust of wind blows on his chin.
Maybe in the way that you're not draining yourself to make weight... but there are probably bigger punchers in the weight class above
^ what hougogi said.
I don't think it directly improves your chin, but if going up in weight means you're not dehydrating yourself, than you'll take punches better.
What they said ^^
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Maybe in the way that you're not draining yourself to make weight... but there are probably bigger punchers in the weight class above
^ what hougogi said.
I don't think it directly improves your chin, but if going up in weight means you're not dehydrating yourself, than you'll take punches better.
What they said ^^
^ what hougogi said.
I don't think it directly improves your chin, but if going up in weight means you're not dehydrating yourself, than you'll take punches better.