I know that some will automatically say that this post makes me a Joe "hater", and I honestly am not, but I can scarcely believe that even 23 Brits (or mostly) clicked on the "Calzaghe" option. :sad6:
I'm with your "humble opinion". :werd:
yeah I mean thats not anti-joe at all, I just respect people who try to do the deed, you know, its the way I was brought up. People in my youth used to go and do things and not hide and use social media to big themselves. I just don't get not doing it, its a lack of self respect.
Personally I respect Hatton more, at least he tried to face the best. actually trying is more valuable than not trying, IMHO.
I'm with your "humble opinion". :werd:
better comparison would be Joe to Mayweather if Floyd had fought no one big except Cotto and DLH (to equate to Kessler and Bhop).
if you replaced all the other elites and top fighters on Floyds resume with nobodies and middlers, then theres a realistic comparison.
Personally I respect Hatton more, at least he tried to face the best. actually trying is more valuable than not trying, IMHO.
He wasn't there.
He was unranked when Calzaghe fought him.
that's impossible, why would a world title be fought with an unranked opponent. Surely that cant be allowed.
As someone who has no problem defending the proposition that Calzaghe was a great fighter in his own right, there is a pretty sizable gap favoring Mayweather in this conversation. He's just accomplished so much more and faced a greater depth of opposition.
Yeah I just looked up the annual rankings. Strange.
He'd been in the mix a year or two before, but the couple of no names he beat prior to Calzaghe probably wouldn't warrant a place in the top 10. nevertheless, he was there.
Could look at boxrec as well.
He wasn't there.
He was unranked when Calzaghe fought him.
Eubank wasn't ranked in the Top 10 when Calzaghe fought him. Believe me.
I just looked at the annual rankings to double check despite being 100% sure he wasn't in the top 10 as I remeber vividly that he wasn't but I see they put him at #9 after the fight (for what reason I have no idea) but that would be why you think he was ranked #9 when they fought. He wasn't. He was unranked and rigtfully so. He'd done nothing in years at that point.
Yeah I just looked up the annual rankings. Strange.
He'd been in the mix a year or two before, but the couple of no names he beat prior to Calzaghe probably wouldn't warrant a place in the top 10. nevertheless, he was there.
Could look at boxrec as well.
Hey, when you only have 3, 1 counts!
The ring had him ranked at the time of the fight. I don't know why, but they did. Still, 11 top 10 is good I think. Especially seeing as Calzaghe was kind of inbetween eras when he came through. And he went on to beat an ATG in his backyard. Would like to see Floyd go the the philis and beat Pacquiao there!
Eubank wasn't ranked in the Top 10 when Calzaghe fought him. Believe me.
I just looked at the annual rankings to double check despite being 100% sure he wasn't in the top 10 as I remeber vividly that he wasn't but I see they put him at #9 after the fight (for what reason I have no idea) but that would be why you think he was ranked #9 when they fought. He wasn't. He was unranked and rigtfully so. He'd done nothing in years at that point.
Oh sorry :lol1: 4 then, not 3.
I'm not sure what rankings you're going off on Chris Eubank because he hadn't had a legitimate win at 168 in about 3 years and was unranked at 168 when they fought.
Hey, when you only have 3, 1 counts!
The ring had him ranked at the time of the fight. I don't know why, but they did. Still, 11 top 10 is good I think. Especially seeing as Calzaghe was kind of inbetween eras when he came through. And he went on to beat an ATG in his backyard. Would like to see Floyd go the the philis and beat Pacquiao there!
That's not true.
Calzaghe fought:
Eubank #9 (ring)
Woodhall #8 (ring)
Reid #9 (ring)
Brewer #5 (ring)
Mitchell #6 (ring)
Kessler #2 (ring)
Lacy #3 (ring)
Manfredo Jr #10 (ring)
Sakio Bika #8 (ring)
Hopkins- Champ
Jones jr #7 (ring)
I count 4. Regardless, you know there's a difference between staying at 1 (2) weight classes for your whole career and jump up and down between 6 weightclasses.
Oh sorry :lol1: 4 then, not 3.
I'm not sure what rankings you're going off on Chris Eubank because he hadn't had a legitimate win at 168 in about 3 years and was unranked at 168 when they fought.
Calzaghe in his entire career fought 3 fighters ranked in the Top 5 in his division.
Mayweather fought (so far) close to 15 and is still going.
Not even close to debatable.
That's not true.
Calzaghe fought:
Eubank #9 (ring)
Woodhall #8 (ring)
Reid #9 (ring)
Brewer #5 (ring)
Mitchell #6 (ring)
Kessler #2 (ring)
Lacy #3 (ring)
Manfredo Jr #10 (ring)
Sakio Bika #8 (ring)
Hopkins- Champ
Jones jr #7 (ring)
I count 4. Regardless, you know there's a difference between staying at 1 (2) weight classes for your whole career and jump up and down between 6 weightclasses.
Calzaghe in his entire career fought 3 fighters ranked in the Top 5 in his division.
Mayweather fought (so far) close to 15 and is still going.
Not even close to debatable.
So Oscar absolute prime was 1997 if I comprehended that correctly; so that means he shot for the Trinidad fight now I see thats why he lost thanks for clearing that up
Oscar's prime was from the Chaves fight to the second Mosley fight at best. He topped the P4P ratings in 97 and 98 so, yeah, I would say that was his prime.
If you think he was prime for Mayweather then you don't know wtf you are talking about.
Please don't big up that win for Floyd.
Oscar was merely a shadow of himself, 10 years past his prime and came off a very inactive and unimpressive run.
So Oscar absolute prime was 1997 if I comprehended that correctly; so that means he shot for the Trinidad fight now I see thats why he lost thanks for clearing that up
Sir Joe owns Floyd at every turn......
"44 have tried, 44 have failed" - Floyd Mayweather
"Yeah but at the end of the day, 46 have tried, 46 have failed"- Joe Calzaghe
"Every undefeated fighter I faced took a loss" - Floyd Mayweather
"Yeah but at the end of the day, you only faced 2 undefeated fighters, I faced 5 at the end of the day"- Joe Calzaghe
hahahahahhahaha!!! :alcoholic
ok dude,, i hate to do this to you cuz i like you but im gonna have to do the unthinkable and put you on blast and defend floyd...
1. corrales is a much better fighter than lacy ever was,,,, Lacy is calzaghe 2nd or 3rd best win,,,
2. Hatton is a hall of famer and was a great fighter in his prime,, that was a good win for floyd and equal to the kessler win for joe,, which is another top 3 win for joe...
3. Castillo was a great fighter of his era,, not an ATG but def HOFer and best lightweight resume of the past 10-15 years or since mosely,,,
floyd beat him twice, yes the 1st won was close and could have gone either way but the rematch settled all doubts,,,, Another great win for floyd...
4. Hopkins for calzaghe was a great win,,, just like oscar was a great win for floyd,, both about even because it was aging champs on the last hurrah but still really good fighters,,,,, If oscar would have kept fighting at 154 he could have picked up some more belts just like hopkins has,,,,
I think these wins are about even...
5. but then you have to consider that floyd has also beaten genaro, who was a great champ, and mosely, cotto, zab, and lineal champ baldomir,,,
6. floyd just has more depth at his resume,,, i havent even talked about the manfredy fight, or ortiz and ghost,,, canelo........
7. floyd's resume is superior to joe's.... i dont even know how this is debatable,,, Joe was a great fighter and one of my favorites, but it would make me an idiot fanboy to think joe's resume compares to floyd.....
I hope you understand now
Please don't big up that win for Floyd.
Oscar was merely a shadow of himself, 10 years past his prime and came off a very inactive and unimpressive run.
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