If Cunningham didnt drop Fury....

Come to think about it Haye has not been knocked down since he moved to heavyweight and he did take some hard punches from huge puncher Wlad.Haye should win this fight by KO. I sure hope he does because I am sick of hearing Fury's over the top bragging on himself. Haye is a modest, humble guy compare to Fury. Fury is sloppy and his wrestling, mauling, holding and hitting tactics are borderline illegal. he was knocked down by both ruiz and monte barrett but they were ruled "slips" wlad's a "huge puncher" when he has sitting ducks in front of him. it's no surprise wlad didn't knock him down. wlad only knocks his fat out of shape opponents out when they are completely gassed and stand right in front of him. haye didn't gas and stand in front of him.

Haye's chin at HW doesn't seem nearly as bad as it was at Cruiserweight. He took some bombs from Wlad in that fight, and hardly seem phased by themCome to think about it Haye has not been knocked down since he moved to heavyweight and he did take some hard punches from huge puncher Wlad.Haye should win this fight by KO. I sure hope he does because I am sick of hearing Fury's over the top bragging on himself. Haye is a modest, humble guy compare to Fury. Fury is sloppy and his wrestling, mauling, holding and hitting tactics are borderline illegal.

People say oh well fury got dropped by cunningham yeah well Haye got dropped by Mock http://www.europeboxing.com/Boxeadores/Lolenga_Mock.JPG this guy People also say Wlad couldn't drop Haye, so how is Fury going to? But Haye wasn't taking chances against Wlad and spent a lot of the fight trying not to be ko'ed by Wlad, therefore Haye was off balance for periods of the fight, unable to counter Wlad. with anything meaningful. Haye will take more chances against Fury im sure of it, and be ripe for a sucker punch. Once Fury goes down usually he usually can make adustments. So he will hold haye, lean on him and do whatever it takes to survive if knocked down.

I think haye may well drop Fury at some point, but I don't think he'll stop him. I expect Fury to drop Haye as well if the fight goes on long enough.

He also got dropped by another dude, forgot his name.

I would still pick Haye, Fury just isn't very good or talented. Yup pretty much this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

of course. no matter if he hurt him or not cunningham was still hitting fury at will early in the fight and taking him to school. nobody can get away with that against haye for long, so his only chance would be to catch haye first. but haye has very good defense himself by HW standards and just like fury couldnt get out of the way of steves shots he couldnt land his own. even if i overlook the fact that cunningham dropped him i just dont see how he is gonna catch haye, avoid hayes shots or take them well. the fact that cunningham actually hurt him when he landed just makes me think the KO will be more brutal. I'm sure i'm nitpicking here, but Haye's defence isn't anything special - he keeps his left hand really low most of the time. It's his phenomenal (especially for a HW) head and lateral movements which keep Haye almost unhittable for most of the round.

Haye is better,faster and more skilled then Fury who is not that good at all,thats why people are picking Haye by ko

I might give Fury a better chance if he had not been dropped and hurt by an average puncher. I would still pick Haye.I don't believe Fury went down because he did not expect a hard punch. The fact that he knows Haye hits hard won't save him from getting KOed in my opinion. You can either take a hard punch or you can't. You can't just decide you won't get hurt or go down because you expect a hard punch. Cunningham showed that Fury can be hurt and Haye hits much harder and faster than Cunningham.When Haye catches him with bombs I believe he will go down and out whether he is expecting to get hit hard or not.He could always knock Haye out first. Haye does not have a real good chin. Haye's chin at HW doesn't seem nearly as bad as it was at Cruiserweight. He took some bombs from Wlad in that fight, and hardly seem phased by them

of course. no matter if he hurt him or not cunningham was still hitting fury at will early in the fight and taking him to school. nobody can get away with that against haye for long, so his only chance would be to catch haye first. but haye has very good defense himself by HW standards and just like fury couldnt get out of the way of steves shots he couldnt land his own. even if i overlook the fact that cunningham dropped him i just dont see how he is gonna catch haye, avoid hayes shots or take them well. the fact that cunningham actually hurt him when he landed just makes me think the KO will be more brutal.

It's not just the KD he suffered; it's the fact he was open to the overhand right all night. He's also been dropped in the past by the same punch, so the Cunningham KD wasn't just a fluke. I think Fury has a chance if he makes it through the first 4 - 6 rounds, but with his defensive lapses and Hayes speed and power combination, I doubt Fury's still standing by round 6.

I might give Fury a better chance if he had not been dropped and hurt by an average puncher. I would still pick Haye.I don't believe Fury went down because he did not expect a hard punch. The fact that he knows Haye hits hard won't save him from getting KOed in my opinion. You can either take a hard punch or you can't. You can't just decide you won't get hurt or go down because you expect a hard punch. Cunningham showed that Fury can be hurt and Haye hits much harder and faster than Cunningham.When Haye catches him with bombs I believe he will go down and out whether he is expecting to get hit hard or not.He could always knock Haye out first. Haye does not have a real good chin.

Win win situation for fury. when he loses, it was expected, If he somehow won, caravans all over the uk would celebrate yea,,,haye has alot more to lose than fury. I doubt hes very worried about it tho

Yep. It has nothing to do with the Cunningham fight, Fury simply isn't half as good as Haye....the lightning fast/huge punching style is also all wrong for him.

Yes. Fury was shook by Chisora and KD vs that canadian guy. The guy is made for a Hayemaker.

Would you still be picking Haye via KO? This is for everyone picking Haye by KO/TKO. I think a lot of you are only picking Haye because of the knockdown in Tyson/cunninham. Tyson knows Haye hits hard, he'll expect the power punches. He wasn't expecting that with Steve. hes looked vulnerable in other fights against light hitters. Id be very surprised if he was able to last more than 4 rounds with haye. its a shame his chin is so bad as he can box a fair bit for such a big guy

I think a lot of it has to do with the following - Hayes Power - Fury just can't keep concentration for the full 3 minutes of a round - Fury was also down against Pakjic who has a 27% KO record

Cunningham wouldn't have gassed and kept up his Jean Pascal impersonation longer on a side note Fury was floored by some canadian bum with 16 wins and 4 ko's if I'm not mistaken and barely made it off the floor