Is PBF ATG? 10 best wins

You had to have actually watched boxing in 1998 to know who he is. or at least research the sport, watch videos and form your own opinion. This is the cyber era ya know....some people are bad at trolling

Where is Genaro Hernandez?. he never heard of him....also he probably never seen him fight, and just started following boxing 3 years ago or less...I think he left off Jose Luis Castillo as well....dude DKSAB...sad sad attempt at trolling...for the people that voted no...if Floyd Mayweather isnt an all time great their isnt very many considering in 44 fights he has done more than fighters in the past with 80 or more fights under their belt.

Where is Genaro Hernandez?. You had to have actually watched boxing in 1998 to know who he is.

Not in that particular order. DLH - Oscar was old and Pac demolished him easily. Just went though him like knife goes through butter. Mayweather went life and death with him and won only when DLH got tired and stopped jabbing in the last couple of rounds. So so win. Juda - ok win, but beating Juda doesn't make you an ATG - light welterweight Hatton - good fighter, but again, not great. B+ maybe, also fought at light welterweight mostly. Baldomir - Baldomir is ok fighter, pretty limited, B fighter at best. Mitchell - eh, not that good, was KOed by Zoo and Williams Corrales - very good fighter, but a super feather weight. It same as Vitaly defeating Gomez or Adamek, pretty much. Mosley - even though he was very very old, Shane got PBF in the first and if he was 50 years younger Floyd would have been KOed. Great job for a defensive wizard and the best defensive fighter of this generation. Getting almost KOed against old man 10 years past his prime. Gatti - beating Gatti doesn't make you an ATG. Cotto - was shot and got destoyed by Paquiao. Lost to Trout. ATG win for Floyd though lol Marquez - was coming up in weight for the fist time and didn't adjust yet, and PBF didn't even make the limit. No great wins. Pretty weak 10 best wins for so called ATG. Mostly old guys and lightweights. He didn't beat any good bigger guys at all. He did beat a lot of super feather weights, but did not that well in a big leagues. Is Rigo ATG? he can't even get HBO deal. People PBF could have fought to become ATG, but avoided to save his 0: Paul Williams, Pac, Prime Cotto, younger Mosley, Margarito, Martinez at 154, GGG at 154. Great fighter? no, good fighter? yes. Not in the same league as Hearns, Leonard, Duran, Sweet Pea, Hagler. Floyd would probably avoid them like he avoided Pac. :wtf1: Sad attempt at trying to discredit a fighters resume when leaving out details and other big wins and accomplishments. Floyd Mayweather 44-0 (26 kos) title fights 22-0 current, future, and past titlists champions defeated: 17, 18 if you in clude the WBO (Corley) Titles: 3 lineal next fight will be for his fourth in 5 weight classes he has won title belts 1) De La Hoya...past prime still dangerous coming off a big win, winning a title and called all the shots...ring size, gloves, etc...considering Mayweather just moved to welterweight a year prior, and impressive feat winning a title at 147 2) Genero " Chicanto" Hernandez....only lost to a much larger de La Hoya in an attempt to win a belt a lightweight....was the junior lightweight champion undefeated at the weight at the time with wins over Azumah Nelson, James Leija and several defense arguably a top ten champ at 130....Mayweather beat him at 21, his 18th pro fight for a lineal title...very few fighters have won lineal titles at a younger age or fewer fights 3) Jose Luis Castillo....was the best lightweight of the past era...lost a disputed first fight and was thoroughly dominated by Mayweather and went on to recapture the title and fight one of the greatest title fights of all time against Diego Corrales. Casillo holds wins over Corrales, Julio Diaz, Cesar Bazan, Casamayor, Steveie Johnston, Jorge Paez and cleaned out lightweight 4) Ricky Hatton...undefeated junior lightweight champion...won the wba welterweight championship and moved down to retain previous title at 140. Hatton was a very good fighter in his prime, hungry and gave his all. Mayweather adjusted and kayoed him. Also althought he held a title at a lower weight Mayweather started at 130 and weighed less on the same day weight in...he was taller but Hatton was bigger. 5) Miguel Cotto: A fight Arum prevented from happening, when Cotto left him it happened immediately...both fighters were past prime and Cotto had suffered some previous setbacks but was on a resurgence in his career winning the title from Yuri Foreman, defeated Mayorga and Margarito before the fight 6) Diego Corrales: was undefeated favored to win and the hardest puncher at 130 had seen in a decade or more....some say he was weight drained but consider he regained titles at the weight after an incarceration and a 2 year lay off...after losing to Mayweather he went a good run regained titles at 130 and won the lineal lightweight title in an ATG affair with Castillo 7)Mosely: Both fighters past prime and fight long offer due. Happened after Mosley completely annihilated Margarito for possibly the best win of his career. Mayweather dominated 8)Marquez: lightweight champion at the time fight at a catweight, p4p number 3....didnt beat him with size but skill had they fought at 130 when Mayweather was their and Marquez was at 126 would have been the same outcome 9)Judah 10) Baldomir

Floyd is an ATG,,, where he ranks is highly debatable,,, But to think that floyd is some ordinary fighter is crazytalk.... You dont win that many fights without being special,,,

Where is Genaro Hernandez?.

Not in that particular order. DLH - Oscar was old and Pac demolished him easily. Just went though him like knife goes through butter. Mayweather went life and death with him and won only when DLH got tired and stopped jabbing in the last couple of rounds. So so win. Juda - ok win, but beating Juda doesn't make you an ATG - light welterweight Hatton - good fighter, but again, not great. B+ maybe, also fought at light welterweight mostly. Baldomir - Baldomir is ok fighter, pretty limited, B fighter at best. Mitchell - eh, not that good, was KOed by Zoo and Williams Corrales - very good fighter, but a super feather weight. It same as Vitaly defeating Gomez or Adamek, pretty much. Mosley - even though he was very very old, Shane got PBF in the first and if he was 50 years younger Floyd would have been KOed. Great job for a defensive wizard and the best defensive fighter of this generation. Getting almost KOed against old man 10 years past his prime. Gatti - beating Gatti doesn't make you an ATG. Cotto - was shot and got destoyed by Paquiao. Lost to Trout. ATG win for Floyd though lol Marquez - was coming up in weight for the fist time and didn't adjust yet, and PBF didn't even make the limit. No great wins. Pretty weak 10 best wins for so called ATG. Mostly old guys and lightweights. He didn't beat any good bigger guys at all. He did beat a lot of super feather weights, but did not that well in a big leagues. Is Rigo ATG? he can't even get HBO deal. People PBF could have fought to become ATG, but avoided to save his 0: Paul Williams, Pac, Prime Cotto, younger Mosley, Margarito, Martinez at 154, GGG at 154. Great fighter? no, good fighter? yes. Not in the same league as Hearns, Leonard, Duran, Sweet Pea, Hagler. Floyd would probably avoid them like he avoided Pac. If you seriously think Floyd isn't ATG, you shouldn't be posting about boxing, let alone making stupid threads like this. Your description for each fighter he has faced is biased and trolly and I can pick apart your idiotic reasonings for each with ease but I don't want to debate with trolls. Again, if you don't think Floyd is ATG.. boxing isn't for you.

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Boxing works n mysterious ways sometimes. It's a sport that all about what have you done for me lately. If Floyd was to lose to Canelo then must of these articles about him being the best would disappear, just liked they disappeared when Manny lost. But to answer you question, I would have to say Floyd has ATG skills but not an ATG resume, that's one of the reason I don't hold him to such high standards as I do Manny and Hopkins because his resume is shallow compared to theirs. Also I would replace Mitchell with JLC on Floyd's best wins, I mean Mitchell shouldn't ever b the best win on any great fighters's resume.

DLH - Oscar was old and Pac demolished him easily. I stopped reading here

I count at least 5 HOF/Future HOF fighters there. How terrible...........

Really? The brutal beating he suffered against Margarito, then Pacquiao, were just beatings to shake off the rust for his Primed self........LOL I never said he was prime, not being shot does NOT equal prime. Cotto was att he time the best LMW on the planet, who was better? A pre-Trout Canelo? a pre-Cotto Trout? na man, be real. Cotto was post-peak and on the wrong side of 30 but he wasn't shot, a shot fighter is what we saw Spinks fight in Ali, or Leonard and Norris or Benn and Calzaghe, those were shot fighters. Cotto still had some gas left in him and he gave Floyd a hell of a fight.

Everyone knows I'm not a massive Floyd fan, haven't liked him for a while now and I do believe he has ducked a number of fighters but your assessment of his best wins are a bit off. The DLH win, very close fight but was impressive considering DLH was fighting at 154, something he was always more comfortable at then 147. Cotto wasn't shot, I still think he was a legit champion at 154 although he wasn't as good as he had been 3-4 years earlier, Floyd had a tough time with him but got another good win. I can't really defend him fighting the likes of Baldomir, Guerrero or Ortiz. I know those names aren't listed on your list but still, Corrales and Mitchell were both good fighters close to their best at the time BUT they weren't tremendously good. That's what Floyd's resume is, filled with the odd elite fighter and a tonne of decent level opposition. What makes him great isn't resume alone but the fact that he is supremely gifted, very good speed and reflexes and heaps load of skill. Definitely the most skilled counter puncher over the last 15 years or so. A top 50 ATG for sure, no higher than 40 IMO. Manny and Hopkins are guys who should make it into any and every bodies top 20 though and that's the difference between my opinion of Floyd and the two other ATG fighters of his generation. Really? The brutal beating he suffered against Margarito, then Pacquiao, were just beatings to shake off the rust for his Primed self........LOL

Not in that particular order. DLH - Oscar was old and Pac demolished him easily. Just went though him like knife goes through butter. Mayweather went life and death with him and won only when DLH got tired and stopped jabbing in the last couple of rounds. So so win. Juda - ok win, but beating Juda doesn't make you an ATG - light welterweight Hatton - good fighter, but again, not great. B+ maybe, also fought at light welterweight mostly. Baldomir - Baldomir is ok fighter, pretty limited, B fighter at best. Mitchell - eh, not that good, was KOed by Zoo and Williams Corrales - very good fighter, but a super feather weight. It same as Vitaly defeating Gomez or Adamek, pretty much. Mosley - even though he was very very old, Shane got PBF in the first and if he was 50 years younger Floyd would have been KOed. Great job for a defensive wizard and the best defensive fighter of this generation. Getting almost KOed against old man 10 years past his prime. Gatti - beating Gatti doesn't make you an ATG. Cotto - was shot and got destoyed by Paquiao. Lost to Trout. ATG win for Floyd though lol Marquez - was coming up in weight for the fist time and didn't adjust yet, and PBF didn't even make the limit. No great wins. Pretty weak 10 best wins for so called ATG. Mostly old guys and lightweights. He didn't beat any good bigger guys at all. He did beat a lot of super feather weights, but did not that well in a big leagues. Is Rigo ATG? he can't even get HBO deal. People PBF could have fought to become ATG, but avoided to save his 0: Paul Williams, Pac, Prime Cotto, younger Mosley, Margarito, Martinez at 154, GGG at 154. Great fighter? no, good fighter? yes. Not in the same league as Hearns, Leonard, Duran, Sweet Pea, Hagler. Floyd would probably avoid them like he avoided Pac. Everyone knows I'm not a massive Floyd fan, haven't liked him for a while now and I do believe he has ducked a number of fighters but your assessment of his best wins are a bit off. The DLH win, very close fight but was impressive considering DLH was fighting at 154, something he was always more comfortable at then 147. Cotto wasn't shot, I still think he was a legit champion at 154 although he wasn't as good as he had been 3-4 years earlier, Floyd had a tough time with him but got another good win. I can't really defend him fighting the likes of Baldomir, Guerrero or Ortiz. I know those names aren't listed on your list but still, Corrales and Mitchell were both good fighters close to their best at the time BUT they weren't tremendously good. That's what Floyd's resume is, filled with the odd elite fighter and a tonne of decent level opposition. What makes him great isn't resume alone but the fact that he is supremely gifted, very good speed and reflexes and heaps load of skill. Definitely the most skilled counter puncher over the last 15 years or so. A top 50 ATG for sure, no higher than 40 IMO. Manny and Hopkins are guys who should make it into any and every bodies top 20 though and that's the difference between my opinion of Floyd and the two other ATG fighters of his generation.

Who did Mayweather beat to become ATG? 50 year old Shane Mosley? lol

Not in that particular order. DLH - Oscar was old and Pac demolished him easily. Just went though him like knife goes through butter. Mayweather went life and death with him and won only when DLH got tired and stopped jabbing in the last couple of rounds. So so win. Juda - ok win, but beating Juda doesn't make you an ATG - light welterweight Hatton - good fighter, but again, not great. B+ maybe, also fought at light welterweight mostly. Baldomir - Baldomir is ok fighter, pretty limited, B fighter at best. Mitchell - eh, not that good, was KOed by Zoo and Williams Corrales - very good fighter, but a super feather weight. It same as Vitaly defeating Gomez or Adamek, pretty much. Mosley - even though he was very very old, Shane got PBF in the first and if he was 50 years younger Floyd would have been KOed. Great job for a defensive wizard and the best defensive fighter of this generation. Getting almost KOed against old man 10 years past his prime. Gatti - beating Gatti doesn't make you an ATG. Cotto - was shot and got destoyed by Paquiao. Lost to Trout. ATG win for Floyd though lol Marquez - was coming up in weight for the fist time and didn't adjust yet, and PBF didn't even make the limit. No great wins. Pretty weak 10 best wins for so called ATG. Mostly old guys and lightweights. He didn't beat any good bigger guys at all. He did beat a lot of super feather weights, but did not that well in a big leagues. Is Rigo ATG? he can't even get HBO deal. People PBF could have fought to become ATG, but avoided to save his 0: Paul Williams, Pac, Prime Cotto, younger Mosley, Margarito, Martinez at 154, GGG at 154. Great fighter? no, good fighter? yes. Not in the same league as Hearns, Leonard, Duran, Sweet Pea, Hagler. Floyd would probably avoid them like he avoided Pac. I rank Pacquiao higher than Floyd, everyone like to hate on Manny, but he's achieved more in the sport, his legacy is set in stone.

Floyd is easily an ATG..knocking on top 20 status,how is this even up for debate? Floyd Manny Hopkins are 3 active fighters who are are certified ATG'S Hopkins has good victories, Manny has good victories, Floyd doesn't. He beat nobody. Only old ppl and feather weights. His record is fabricated. How is he easily ATG? Who else, Brian Nielsen is ATG too? lol His fans say he is ATG, but look at his top 10 wins. That's pathetic. John Ruiz has better resume. Floyd is solid, but not great at all.

Floyd is easily an ATG..knocking on top 20 status,how is this even up for debate? Floyd Manny Hopkins are 3 active fighters who are are certified ATG'S

Not in that particular order. DLH - Oscar was old and Pac demolished him easily. Just went though him like knife goes through butter. Mayweather went life and death with him and won only when DLH got tired and stopped jabbing in the last couple of rounds. So so win. Juda - ok win, but beating Juda doesn't make you an ATG - light welterweight Hatton - good fighter, but again, not great. B+ maybe, also fought at light welterweight mostly. Baldomir - Baldomir is ok fighter, pretty limited, B fighter at best. Mitchell - eh, not that good, was KOed by Zoo and Williams Corrales - very good fighter, but a super feather weight. It same as Vitaly defeating Gomez or Adamek, pretty much. Mosley - even though he was very very old, Shane got PBF in the first and if he was 50 years younger Floyd would have been KOed. Great job for a defensive wizard and the best defensive fighter of this generation. Getting almost KOed against old man 10 years past his prime. Gatti - beating Gatti doesn't make you an ATG. Cotto - was shot and got destoyed by Paquiao. Lost to Trout. ATG win for Floyd though lol Marquez - was coming up in weight for the fist time and didn't adjust yet, and PBF didn't even make the limit. No great wins. Pretty weak 10 best wins for so called ATG. Mostly old guys and lightweights. He didn't beat any good bigger guys at all. He did beat a lot of super feather weights, but did not that well in a big leagues. Is Rigo ATG? he can't even get HBO deal. People PBF could have fought to become ATG, but avoided to save his 0: Paul Williams, Pac, Prime Cotto, younger Mosley, Margarito, Martinez at 154, GGG at 154. Great fighter? no, good fighter? yes. Not in the same league as Hearns, Leonard, Duran, Sweet Pea, Hagler. Floyd would probably avoid them like he avoided Pac. Wtf are u talking about?

Diego Corrales was a massive superfeatherweight and is 5'11 and always looked zombified ghost like at the weigh ins struggling to make the weight , while Floyd is about 5'8 so it was not really comparable to Mayweather being this Vitali Klitschko big man and Corrales being this Tomasz Adamek cruiserweight, makes no sense.