Do you think Canelo will be a dead man walking come fight night?

Even tho this will be the worst version of Canelo we've seen, Floyd still won't stop him. He makes Malinaggi's power look like Foremans

People who don't box and have to make weight don't understand how it feels. Secondly saying someone else is fine to lose and gain etc... is a joke right? Everyone has a different response with their body because we are different. Amen to that brother. I've had to lose 15lb in a short span of time in the past and rehydration just isn't the same. You feel like the strengths been sapped out of you if you don't do it right or if you go down too far and too fast. Look at RJJ, look at Dawson, look at Oscar, prime examples.

canelo will be fine. a lot of ppl compare him to dawson, cotto, dlh and all these guys but they are overlooking one very important and twice as obvious factor. age. these guys are in their 30's, canelo just turned 23. metabolism slows down with age as does the bodys ability to recuperate. several older fighters told me unless you are way under your natural weight making weight is easy when you are under 25, in some cases even on a poor diet. after that it starts getting harder and by the time you hit 30 its something entirely different. your body hits a certain weight and just doesnt lose any more no matter what you do, you have to watch everything you eat too or it will show on the scale and be hell to get back off. at 23 thats not the case, and being 22 myself and an amateur boxer i can vouch for it myself. theres been days when we have been working out outside and i forgot to bring water, lost over 10 pounds in a session and barely noticed. drank some water and trained the next day as if nothing happened. in fact nothing did happen, thats easy work for a young man. also despite what TS says canelo actually looked great in that picture, he clearly can lose a bit more weight and he will cut the rest. something he always does.

Canelo won't be a dead man walking, but he will be a dead man for sure.

No. Canelo is a pro and he knows his own body. He wants to win this fight and he would not agree to 152 if he thought it would weaken him. He will make weight by drying out and then he will rehydrate and eat in the 32 hours between the weigh in and the fight.He will be the best Canelo anyone has seen yet.

You posted that Pacquiao and Diaz were losing thirteen pounds and putting it back on in a 30 hour time span. Don't talk to me with your retarded logic. Its not retarded logic. Its done in boxing, MMA, and wrestling all the time. Of course everyone is different, and I dont know about the Pac, Diaz example. But people cutting 10 pounds or more of fluid in the days leading into the weigh in is not uncommon. And than gaining most and than some by event time. Of course this fu*ks with stamina when done wrong, or when going overboard. And from the looks of how much Canelo balloons up after weigh in, thats exactly what he does.

I too think Canelo will come in over at 154, I dunno just a hunch.

I'm actually worried now. I hope not. I'm surprised that you're worried.

If you are your a silly fck that cant read . You posted that Pacquiao and Diaz were losing thirteen pounds and putting it back on in a 30 hour time span. Don't talk to me with your retarded logic.

I'm actually worried now. I hope not. If you are your a silly fck that cant read .

I'm actually worried now. I hope not.

I don't think he'll make the weight if I'm honest. I think, in the end he will purposely not make it! Mark my words. He will come in 2-3 pounds heavy. I hope he does that, come in at 155lb and see the look on Floyd's face when he coughs up the fine and tsill manages to maintain the fight. But it won't happen.

At first 152lb didn't seem to bad a catchweight but now it looks as if Canelo is going to struggle to make this weight. Best post thus far, I didn't like Floyd's hypocrisy with regards to the cw but I always thought 2lb below the limit wasn't too bad but now that I think about it, Canelo has been on the verge of outgrowing the division for about a year now. For a guy only 5'7 he is pretty damn big and the fact that he is almost a smw a month before fight night just goes to show 154 would have been difficult for him, let alone the extra 2lb. Canelo will gas quicker than normal and won't be able to keep up the work rate and punching power needed to beat Floyd and the fight gets boring down the stretch, with Floyd unwilling to pull the trigger in fights.

I don't think he'll make the weight if I'm honest. I think, in the end he will purposely not make it! Mark my words. He will come in 2-3 pounds heavy.

no it applies to anyone but it's impossible to know for sure what effect it has, you could do a PhD on it and still not be 100%. It all comes down to the individual and how hard they making their preferred weight. Canelo doesn't seem like ripped guy so maybe he can just lose two more lbs of fat but that can effect some guys too as the body is less happy releasing glycogon to break down glucose stores in glycogen and triglycerides. The facts are that fighters ask other fighters to come down in weight because thRy believe it make them less effective. Otherwise why ask for it? So whether it's Floyd, Manny or Ward you have to expect to get less credit when making a guy come down in weight. I agree I don't like guys being forced to come down in weight because it often hurts the guy coming down , having said that what applys to Canelo must apply to others , so if Canelo will be weaker as you said then so must all the others be weakened . Now on the other side of the fence if a guy makes the weight correctly meaning with proper nutrition and training and the weight is within his " personal threshold " which is a range by the way , its not a set point , then the lower weight can benefit him in both speed and endurance and he will heat up less because there is less internal bodyfat around the organs , overall a better more refined athlete . All these things are relevant in deciding if a fighter is weight drained or not , and the only full proof way is to run a battery of tests at weighin then on fight night right before and within an hour after the fight , then you would have a comparison profile that would scientifically prove if he was weight drained or not . Other than that the only way for outsiders with no inside information to know is to watch the fight very closely , does the guy have no snap and is pushing punches , is the CW bigger guy pushed around by the smaller guy , is his resistance to shots lower , does the guy just fade out or he is lethargic from the start , add to that any relevant information that surfaces , like Margo and diuretics , Oscar and IV fluid infusions etc etc , those are big red flags that scream weight draining , and their performances on the night showed it . Canelo might be drained on the night , that is yet to be determined , and unless your living with him there is now way to know , the evidence right now and the weight he is says he is doing this the right way and looks to be the perfect a mth out , fighters have been losing 10-15 % of their bodyweight to make their division limits since weigh ins began , the real good trainers have it down to a fine art and it can be a huge advantage when done right .

Does that holds true for all guys that fought a CW , seems abit of BS that this only happens to Canelo , when Oscar Cotto and Margarito all had to lose a higher % of bodyweight than Canelo has to , using your scientific calculation they got to have less energy than Canelo right ? no it applies to anyone but it's impossible to know for sure what effect it has, you could do a PhD on it and still not be 100%. It all comes down to the individual and how hard they making their preferred weight. Canelo doesn't seem like ripped guy so maybe he can just lose two more lbs of fat but that can effect some guys too as the body is less happy releasing glycogon to break down glucose stores in glycogen and triglycerides. The facts are that fighters ask other fighters to come down in weight because thRy believe it make them less effective. Otherwise why ask for it? So whether it's Floyd, Manny or Ward you have to expect to get less credit when making a guy come down in weight.

canelo = rigo donaire = floyd No f*cking way. :lol1:

Does that holds true for all guys that fought a CW , seems abit of BS that this only happens to Canelo , when Oscar Cotto and Margarito all had to lose a higher % of bodyweight than Canelo has to , using your scientific calculation they got to have less energy than Canelo right ? where s this numbers breakdown? calculator stuck in neutral?

Does that holds true for all guys that fought a CW , seems abit of BS that this only happens to Canelo , when Oscar Cotto and Margarito all had to lose a higher % of bodyweight than Canelo has to , using your scientific calculation they got to have less energy than Canelo right ? still pushing bunk numbers? Canelo 172 last fight night, needs to make 152. That's 20lb, that's more than 8%. It's more than 12%, chump

it's hard to say but if he was pushing to make 154 there's only 2 ways to make 152. lose 2lbs of functional tissue which can't be bone or organs so will have to be muscle meaning a less strong Canelo. or keep the same body composition and dehydrate and rehydrate an extra 2lbs. Now the body is mostly water however it can only lose and replace so much in a short space of time. once you dehydrate that 2lbs too much you will also begin to lose stores of glycogen and creatine phosphate that bind to water as well as reduce the ability of the electron transport chain to reduce hydrogen ions and phosphorilate adp to energy rich atp. I other words Canelo will have less energy stores on fight night. Does that holds true for all guys that fought a CW , seems abit of BS that this only happens to Canelo , when Oscar Cotto and Margarito all had to lose a higher % of bodyweight than Canelo has to , using your scientific calculation they got to have less energy than Canelo right ?