The only problem is Manny Pacquiao is in Jack Johnsons shoes and the black power boxing fan has now replaced those white supremacists, before the whites called for a white hope, now many blacks boast of being the best, B hop said Pacman cant handle a slick black, many others said that as if being slick and black means you are superior.
Pacman is the Jack Johnson of our time, they hate to see an Asian man on top. Their best guy wont even fight him even at his washed up state for the biggest paycheck of his career. So they have to justify and defend him unconditionally like most insecure people who pride themselves in racial superiority do.
Never saw it that way. Good post.
People add the racial element historically back to Jack Johnson.
Everyone wants to see a black fighter lose at his peak to a non black fighter.
It would be a joyous occasion for many people for some reason. What do
Black Rican Cuban Latin Mexican fighters have to prove on that level?
Floyd set Manny up with the initial offer cause he KNEW Manny wouldn't test.
What happen after all that is a thousand smoke screens but he let Floyd get
too far ahead at this point and is now scheduled to fight a 140lb face first
brawler. Thats sad ****.
The only problem is Manny Pacquiao is in Jack Johnsons shoes and the black power boxing fan has now replaced those white supremacists, before the whites called for a white hope, now many blacks boast of being the best, B hop said Pacman cant handle a slick black, many others said that as if being slick and black means you are superior.
Pacman is the Jack Johnson of our time, they hate to see an Asian man on top. Their best guy wont even fight him even at his washed up state for the biggest paycheck of his career. So they have to justify and defend him unconditionally like most insecure people who pride themselves in racial superiority do.
Floyd fans can't even acknowledge that a Pac fight is still far bigger than any other fight Floyd takes. It's either they'd rather see the fight in fantasy land or to justify the ducking.
saying lucky punch and implyng ped use is not taking it like a champ, no matter how positively his fans interpret what he says.
You are correct, floyd has used social media negatively far more than manny. wax when was the last floyd youtube rant? you move on from things manny did (example 2009) you should do same for floyd.
that "lucky punch" nonsense seems to be a recent thing... i remember pac eating humble pie after the KO. but i definitely dont agree with this nonsense now, i think its just bait to get jmm to sign on to a 5th.
real talk, i bash BOTH if they deserve it. i commend BOTH if they deserve it. if i seem to be rough on floyd, its simply because i am not down with his nonsense.... same with broner, i am a FAN of his, but its hard to back some of his crap. simply put, pac stays off the grid... where as floyd kinda sets himself up. theres really no debate...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Snz_mKiPPho&feature=player_embedded
Of course he is challenging Mayweather to a fight. When it is all said and done, Mayweather is going to get a $40 million guarantee and will walk away with about $60 million for his next fight. His opponent, Alvarez, is going to make twice as much money as Pacquaio is being paid as the main attraction in his next fight against Rios. That brutal knockout he suffered against Marquez knocked some sense into Pacquaio and made him realize that the $40 million that Mayweather offered him for one fight is more than he will make for the rest of his career.
Pacquaio's challenge is more like the Shane Mosley I screwed up before when I turned the fight down; please fight me Floyd plea.
Floyd would seriously hurt Manny Pacquiao at this point.:wtf1:
Even if they were neck and neck at one point Manny fell off took off and got knocked out so its not the same no matter how you look at it at this point.
The way Floyds legs looked against Guerrero he is very unbeatable at this point in his career. I really think he was motivated by all the hateful comments some of u made about him. So some if u all being nasty created this monster.
floyd turned the clock back for real. i appreciated the cotto & guerrero fights. i thought he lost his legs, he proved alot of us wrong. also appreciated how he put his punches together.
i think pac looked great until he got dropped... he looked hungry and was looking like vintage pac. its easy to say pac is done at this point. really curious to see how pac takes punishment & whether or not he is now gun-shy.
manny is no victim. he takes his losses and robberies like a champ... reporters ask him his thoughts on people calling him a has-been, he smiles and says, "we'll see"... they ask him about floyd, he say's "lets fight". theres really nothing more to it. whether its genuine or not, pac keeps his cool. and i think that REALLY bothers you guys.
false accusations, personal attacks, insults, racist videos, career discrediting... theres only one fighter dishing those out.... and the other is receiving. if that makes pac the "victim", then lets leave that for your own interpretation... but he certainly DOESNT "act" like a victim...
speaking of "victim", i recall NUMEROUS videos captured of a certain fighter going off on multiple rants about people not giving him any credit... among other complaints. i mean, there are plenty of threads on NSB of his fans crying about the unjust treatment he gets... hmmmmm.
it is what it is. no need to drag a dudes name in the mud just to justify another's bad choices & actions.
saying lucky punch and implyng ped use is not taking it like a champ, no matter how positively his fans interpret what he says.
You are correct, floyd has used social media negatively far more than manny. wax when was the last floyd youtube rant? you move on from things manny did (example 2009) you should do same for floyd.
I've always got that impression. They're celebratory ''phew risk averted!'' mindset after Pac got KO'd gives the impression that they want Floyd to duck Pac for as long as possible. They want the black man to remain the face of boxing and will see it as a huge embarrassment for their people if Floyd got whooped by the little asian.
People add the racial element historically back to Jack Johnson.
Everyone wants to see a black fighter lose at his peak to a non black fighter.
It would be a joyous occasion for many people for some reason. What do
Black Rican Cuban Latin Mexican fighters have to prove on that level?
Floyd set Manny up with the initial offer cause he KNEW Manny wouldn't test.
What happen after all that is a thousand smoke screens but he let Floyd get
too far ahead at this point and is now scheduled to fight a 140lb face first
brawler. Thats sad ****.
Floyd would seriously hurt Manny Pacquiao at this point.:wtf1:
Even if they were neck and neck at one point Manny fell off took off and got knocked out so its not the same no matter how you look at it at this point.
The way Floyds legs looked against Guerrero he is very unbeatable at this point in his career. I really think he was motivated by all the hateful comments some of u made about him. So some if u all being nasty created this monster.
please stop with the manny as victim stuff. they both answer questions regarding the other. Manny lets Koncz and Bob speak for him. Floyd at least speaks for himself.
manny is no victim. he takes his losses and robberies like a champ... reporters ask him his thoughts on people calling him a has-been, he smiles and says, "we'll see"... they ask him about floyd, he say's "lets fight". theres really nothing more to it. whether its genuine or not, pac keeps his cool. and i think that REALLY bothers you guys.
false accusations, personal attacks, insults, racist videos, career discrediting... theres only one fighter dishing those out.... and the other is receiving. if that makes pac the "victim", then lets leave that for your own interpretation... but he certainly DOESNT "act" like a victim...
speaking of "victim", i recall NUMEROUS videos captured of a certain fighter going off on multiple rants about people not giving him any credit... among other complaints. i mean, there are plenty of threads on NSB of his fans crying about the unjust treatment he gets... hmmmmm.
it is what it is. no need to drag a dudes name in the mud just to justify another's bad choices & actions.
this is the ABSOLUTE truth.
pac never ONCE initiated any BS... he simply ignores it and lives his life. only talks about floyd if asked during a training camp or media tour... pac ALWAYS has an air of confidence and power. completely unfazed.
floyd CONTINUES to trash pac. whether on retirement or not, fight coming up or not, its clear who has issues with insecurity. im sure it comes with the territory of playing the villain, but deep down floyd looks hurt. floyd carries ALOT of hatred for pac. the only person that probably carried more hatred for pac was jmm. LOL.
im a fan of both in the ring, but floyds antics and attitude are just too much to bear sometimes.... now we got broner, who is twice as bad... although i actually find broner genuinely funny, where as floyd just comes off conflicted & angry.
please stop with the manny as victim stuff. they both answer questions regarding the other. Manny lets Koncz and Bob speak for him. Floyd at least speaks for himself.
Its just funny at how when presented with questions about Floyd, pac just laughs it off and says that Floyd doesn't want to fight him so what can he do?
When presented with questions about pacquiao, Floyd goes into a hysteria, curses, slanders pac, and has even canceled TV show appearances because they wanted to ask him about fighting pacquiao.
Its because Pacman is a boss. Floyd is a sensitive effeminate insecure girly man cry baby.
If you notice the majority of the ones who still defend Floyd unconditionally are those who are mainly pro black? Its a racial thing they don't want their brother to look like a coward. And they call other black people who call Floyd out on his cowardice and girly cry baby nature UT's and sell outs.
Its a shame everything has to be about racial pride iwth them. This is when they don't use logic, because they put their support for their own kind before anything else. Also if you criticize Floyd they call you a racist but its okay for them to criticize Pacquiao? you never see anyone call them racist with their hate for Manny. Its pathetic they make everything about race.
But us who don't see the race and or care about a fighters race, will clearly see Floyd is scared. He goes into fits when Pac is brought up, he didn't want to negotiate after the first round, he said he was rich scared coward, he said his health is first and self preservation when Pac's name is brought up, he gave ridiculous offers.
If Pacman was black I guarantee you they would be calling Floyd a coward, why you ducking this brotha floyd? you know you scared dog! Its true.
Its just funny at how when presented with questions about Floyd, pac just laughs it off and says that Floyd doesn't want to fight him so what can he do?
When presented with questions about pacquiao, Floyd goes into a hysteria, curses, slanders pac, and has even canceled TV show appearances because they wanted to ask him about fighting pacquiao.
this is the ABSOLUTE truth.
pac never ONCE initiated any BS... he simply ignores it and lives his life. only talks about floyd if asked during a training camp or media tour... pac ALWAYS has an air of confidence and power. completely unfazed.
floyd CONTINUES to trash pac. whether on retirement or not, fight coming up or not, its clear who has issues with insecurity. im sure it comes with the territory of playing the villain, but deep down floyd looks hurt. floyd carries ALOT of hatred for pac. the only person that probably carried more hatred for pac was jmm. LOL.
im a fan of both in the ring, but floyds antics and attitude are just too much to bear sometimes.... now we got broner, who is twice as bad... although i actually find broner genuinely funny, where as floyd just comes off conflicted & angry.
Its just funny at how when presented with questions about Floyd, pac just laughs it off and says that Floyd doesn't want to fight him so what can he do?
When presented with questions about pacquiao, Floyd goes into a hysteria, curses, slanders pac, and has even canceled TV show appearances because they wanted to ask him about fighting pacquiao.
Guys if you go through this thread Dunn is probably the biggest Floyd butt kisser here. He defends his cowardice with a ferver only a woman who loves her pimp would do. its getting pathetic.
The reason why guys like Dunn are repetitious and keep ignoring responses only to reply with the same rhetoric over and over is because they put all their eggs in one basket, they went hard and bold with their first prediction that Floyd is not ducking so their PRIDE whether it is racial or just for not being wrong or combined with both is so strong that they will even ride with their initial response regardless, even if Floyd came out and said Im a coward they will justify it and say you guys misunderstood his words
They cant say you know what maybe I was wrong! Floyd is coming off like a coward. They can;t I hate prideful idiots, this is what you call FOOLISH pride, not true pride or honorable pride. This is the pride of a sucker who can't even apologize true insecurity.
THe reason I repeat the same thing is because when go with the truth you don't change it. When I am wrong I say so, when I'm not I don't.
Besides, reading this post and the your infamous "black power *****" post its clear what your problem is-you hate that floyd occupies a position higher than manny's. you never complain when manny exercises economic power over JMM or other opponents yet you have a fit when floyd does it to manny.
Sorry, I don't feel bad for someone who abuses their power and then gets mad when someone bigger abuses theirs.
Because a cut of date wasn't agreed on , WTF do you realize what you are just glossing over , how do you have a pre known cut of date for random testing , first Mannys says testing is ok and then starts with we want cut of dates , you got to be thick as a brick to think that could fly , and you fools go along with it .
You guys are the most gullible people Ive ever had anything to do with , Manny DUCKED the fight over a PEDS test , the same test he now wants B grade bums to take , Manny is the biggest cherry picker in boxing , Teddy Atlas was dead right , his rise was built on made to order opponents , just like Rios is .
The cut off was always in with the negotiation. It's not like manny just decided to bring that up. When Floyd requested for ost team PAC agreed and requested for a cut off date. Team mayweather wanted a certain day while team PAC didn't. The fight fell off After this. Funny how u ignored all the other demands from Floyd lol.
Amazing how this circus (Floyd/Manny) can still incite 14 pages. Especially for a fight that has 5% chance of happening yet idiots still eat it up. :spank:
If u guys wanna say its PAC who is ducking. Ok let's see PAC only decline ost at first and that was because a cut off date wasnt agreed upon. PAC never and I repeat never flat out refuse ost, it was the cut off date. A lot of u Floyd fans seems to wanna ignore that part.
Now with Floyd, first he request ost for the first time in his whole boxing career and its for a guy who he claims is easy work (okayyyy???) Then PAC can't train in the Philippines, one of Floyd's rep needs to be the wildcard gym when PAC is training there. Then yes manny u're next, the next day, oh I only said that cuz that's what the people wanted to hear. Then my health comes first, nobody is gonna force me to take a fight I don't want. Then no 50/50 split and no ppv share and then now PAC needs to leave arum and sign with tmt and give me a few fights under tmt. Come on s0n!!!! Even ray Charles can see thru this!!!
Because a cut of date wasn't agreed on , WTF do you realize what you are just glossing over , how do you have a pre known cut of date for random testing , first Mannys says testing is ok and then starts with we want cut of dates , you got to be thick as a brick to think that could fly , and you fools go along with it .
You guys are the most gullible people Ive ever had anything to do with , Manny DUCKED the fight over a PEDS test , the same test he now wants B grade bums to take , Manny is the biggest cherry picker in boxing , Teddy Atlas was dead right , his rise was built on made to order opponents , just like Rios is .