Facts about Manny and Jmm

Pac-Boy the only Paccturd I respect. You're a floydiot, son. You get no respect. Now do tell us, schnuffty. What happened to your CW sig? What was it that prompted you to remove it:rofl:

The point of the thread is, that Marquez is as clean as Pacquiao until he fails a test. People accusing Marquez for doing what they didn't believe possible - with absolutely no proof, are the same as those who accused Pacquiao for doing what people didn't believe possible, but with no proof. If you went to bat for Pacquiao in the past, then afford the same courtesy to Marquez, or you're a hypocrite.

Juan had more kos then Manny-yet people act like he just found power Both have 1 stoppage at ww but Juan is the one being accused of juicing Juan never turned down drug testing,but Manny did..Manny was cleared and his fans said "LET THE COMMISSION DO THEIR JOBS" Juan was labeled a cheater even tho he never failed a test just like Manny fans screamed when Manny was accused of juicing So why is this?how can this be explained? Before you scream Memo remember Ariza use to work under Memo so if one is suspect then both are Floydiot! (Floyd no brain idiot fan). Why not just tell us Marquez hired a notorious PED dealer just to make cocktails of Marquez urine or carry his bags?

This means what? the more you fight a person do you not figure them out more each time? Juan has hurt Manny several times...That like saying why in the first Roy-Tarver fight was Roy not dropped but in the 2nd he was ko'd with 1 punch and hurt in the 3rd fight..makes no sense You do unless your name is Pacquiao. Then you keep falling for the same right hand fight after fight after fight after fight.

I think both were on the juice, Manny was on it at the start of his moving up in weight, Juan was on it in the 4th fight... The big thing about this topic is the simple fact that I have no proof either of them were on anything, same as u have no proof either of them weren't (Other than the fact they passed the drug tests, but do u know who else passed drug tests? Lamont Peterson vs Khan, Shane Mosley vs De La Hoya II)... So please don't jump on the high horse

you do know pac was eating punches from guys who were weighing 160+ on fight night while pac was weighing 148-150... and marquez just all of a sudden is able to bulk up no problem at age 39 when you're testosterone levels are much lower? pac^^^tard logic pac is KOING 160LBS and eating shots by 160 lbs....obviously pac not on roids. thats normal. marquez goes up in weight and does the same thing, pac was doing with 160 lbs and marquez is on roids. lets not forget pac went from lightweight to welterweight and koed oscar de la hoya. how did he do it...obviously not steroids... marquez goes from 135-140 to WW and koes pac and its obvious steroids. its not steroids its technique bro.

Floydiots switching back and forth with whatever suits their agenda. They used to say Pac is a monster. He beat the crap out of Cotto and Hatton, therefore he's juicing. Now they're saying the opposite because they've become JMM fans out of necessity. Hehe... Keep on making fools of yourselves.. hehe... Ive never said Pac is a monster , Ive always said he was a fake WW , and the proof is everywhere for all to see if you want to be real about it , Ive said the CWs and the made to order opponents are the reason he looked superman at WW , as soon as the healthy elite in form fighters were opposite him he lost and got KOed , now he is in with I will use Freddie Roaches description " 135 had a few at 140 but wont handle Mannys speed and power and will make us look good " in other words another made to order opponent !!!!!!! Its you that flip flos every second post , I also always said , you cant rag on Floyd and praise Manny , because Manny has done more in manipulating his fights than Floyd ever has , if you go point for point on a debate forum where people vote each point the Pac fanboys will do what they have always done , run ! We all know whats gone on with Manny he sells snake oil to retards lol .

I won't say a thing about PEDs, no end to that topic. But Manny always has more power than JMM. If Manny faced JMM's opposition could he have scored more KO? Probably. Could you say the same about Manny's opposition? With that said, JMM is the true winner of this saga. This is coming from a massive pacfan

Their hero got laid smooth the fuck for cherry picking the 40 year old blown up featherweight.

Floydiots switching back and forth with whatever suits their agenda. They used to say Pac is a monster. He beat the crap out of Cotto and Hatton, therefore he's juicing. Now they're saying the opposite because they've become JMM fans out of necessity. Hehe... Keep on making fools of yourselves.. hehe...

lots of stupid people with stupid questions. with simple ****en answers. how come pac did not get dropped in fight 1,2,3 vs fight 4. simple, 20 pounds or so of new muscle that marquez has now. it is as simple as that. fight 1-3 marquez was skinny and chubby, no real muscle growth. fight 3 started the beginning of muscle developed marquez. fight 4 marquez was more muscled out. PAC LOST CAUSE HE TAUGHT HE WAS FIGHTING THE SAME MARQUEZ but he was fighting a stronger & more powerful marquez. as simply explained by ariza. Pac retards are not interested in facts or timelines , Manny is God and he has rules that only apply only to him , Manny can go up and stop big WWs but Juan cant go up and stop him , the evidence against Manny is just overwhelming , everywhere Manny is being exposed , hindsight is just so enlightening .

lots of stupid people with stupid questions. with simple ****en answers. how come pac did not get dropped in fight 1,2,3 vs fight 4. simple, 20 pounds or so of new muscle that marquez has now. it is as simple as that. fight 1-3 marquez was skinny and chubby, no real muscle growth. fight 3 started the beginning of muscle developed marquez. fight 4 marquez was more muscled out. PAC LOST CAUSE HE TAUGHT HE WAS FIGHTING THE SAME MARQUEZ but he was fighting a stronger & more powerful marquez. as simply explained by ariza. you do know pac was eating punches from guys who were weighing 160+ on fight night while pac was weighing 148-150... and marquez just all of a sudden is able to bulk up no problem at age 39 when you're testosterone levels are much lower?

lots of stupid people with stupid questions. with simple ****en answers. how come pac did not get dropped in fight 1,2,3 vs fight 4. simple, 20 pounds or so of new muscle that marquez has now. it is as simple as that. fight 1-3 marquez was skinny and chubby, no real muscle growth. fight 3 started the beginning of muscle developed marquez. fight 4 marquez was more muscled out. PAC LOST CAUSE HE TAUGHT HE WAS FIGHTING THE SAME MARQUEZ but he was fighting a stronger & more powerful marquez. as simply explained by ariza.

Juan had more kos then Manny-yet people act like he just found power Both have 1 stoppage at ww but Juan is the one being accused of juicing Juan never turned down drug testing,but Manny did..Manny was cleared and his fans said "LET THE COMMISSION DO THEIR JOBS" Juan was labeled a cheater even tho he never failed a test just like Manny fans screamed when Manny was accused of juicing So why is this?how can this be explained? Before you scream Memo remember Ariza use to work under Memo so if one is suspect then both are Why have you been in a I hate Manny mode or something lately? And you are spewing stupid stuff dude, Ariza never worked under Memo, infact Ariza was the first to accuse Memo of being a roid dealer when he saw him on the first episode of Marquez Pacquiao 3 24/7, his tune only changed recently Ariza stopped bashing Arum and stopped talking crap recently too. Also The reason is he is 39 years old, his body changed, everyone thought Pacman would knock him out because he looked like sh1t against Floyd and his body was pudgey and he was slow with no power. When he got with Memo he outweighed Pacman in the ring at 152 pounds and he was bulked up not flabby, in the 4th fight he was shredded with huge traps and shoulders, and at 39 years old and he was able to drop Manny twice when in the previous fights he was never able to hurt Manny.

What fighter has Manny ko'd that would equal Juans ko of Manny? Yea Juan is was 39 so what..great fighter who have fundamentals and dedication can fight over 40 as far as Ariza and Memo http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=ariza+and+memo+worked+together&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CDkQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.*************.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D445997&ei=dgsHUsKQEefU2AWs4YCYCg&usg=AFQjCNGKGN6qAkQffwtWlwpEBjpUF06Z4w link isn't working for me

why the surprise at his power?he cant ko Manny yet Manny can move up and beat up on ww's?...Juan has the same amount of fights as Manny except more ko's and 0 ko loses LOL when your own trainer, a man who has been with you since you were 8 or somethin, training you from the ground up says "marquez is not a power-puncher, he is a very precise puncher, he lands 3 shots right on the chin and hurts you" then that's all that needs to be said, hilarious how we all just ignore the competition

If Pacquiao scored the KO his fans would not have said a word about PEDs. It sounded like Roach was worried ahead of time so why didn't they agree to random testing leading up to the fight? To be honest, I could care less if Marquez was juiced... He probably felt he needed an equalizer and it looked like the equalizer worked IMO.

-juan has had more tko's, against much, MUCH lesser fighters, he has fought much lesser fighters in general -pacquiao has no "KO's" at welterweight -pacquiao is/was not 39 but 29-30 -ariza and memo being former acquaintances have about as much weight as floyd mayweather testing positive 3 times but pacquiao did beat around the bush with floyd What fighter has Manny ko'd that would equal Juans ko of Manny? Yea Juan is was 39 so what..great fighter who have fundamentals and dedication can fight over 40 as far as Ariza and Memo http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=ariza+and+memo+worked+together&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CDkQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.*************.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D445997&ei=dgsHUsKQEefU2AWs4YCYCg&usg=AFQjCNGKGN6qAkQffwtWlwpEBjpUF06Z4w

why the surprise at his power?he cant ko Manny yet Manny can move up and beat up on ww's?...Juan has the same amount of fights as Manny except more ko's and 0 ko loses

Juan had more kos then Manny-yet people act like he just found power Both have 1 stoppage at ww but Juan is the one being accused of juicing Juan never turned down drug testing,but Manny did..Manny was cleared and his fans said "LET THE COMMISSION DO THEIR JOBS" Juan was labeled a cheater even tho he never failed a test just like Manny fans screamed when Manny was accused of juicing So why is this?how can this be explained? Before you scream Memo remember Ariza use to work under Memo so if one is suspect then both are -juan has had more tko's, against much, MUCH lesser fighters, he has fought much lesser fighters in general -pacquiao has no "KO's" at welterweight -pacquiao is/was not 39 but 29-30 -ariza and memo being former acquaintances have about as much weight as floyd mayweather testing positive 3 times but pacquiao did beat around the bush with floyd