If Manny demands drug testing for Jmm-Manny5 and Juan declines

Floydiots are always on the lookout for gotcha moments as exemplified by this thread and others. Sad to say that they won't find any. Hehe... They can't accept that their hero is an unusual guy. There's nothing normal about him. How many so-called stringent testing procedures currently being conducted, including Mayweather's, match what Manny agreed to? VADA catches cheaters by urine samples. They probably don't even take blood tests. USADA does it for showmanship purposes only. What are the testing specifics in the Bradley/Marquez fight? One blood test. Who knows? Nobody cares. did you just say vada doesnt take blood?wow you really have no idea what you are talking about..usada is no different then vada

That fight will not happen because Marquez will retire once he beats Bradley. This is a pac+ard thread.

They'd fight him regardless. Hopefully, there are better fights out there. Waste of a Pacquiao fight to do Marquez again. Get the young guns in that ring!

The bold is a lie and you know it. If your gonna use words like memory, make sure yours is intact homie. Floyd wanted random all the way up til the fight from day 1, Manny wanted 28-30 days. He got caught lying when on the hatton/pac 24/7 it showed pac testing 20 something days (i believe 21) before the fight so then team pac said 21. Floyd said no. They went into mediation with a judge who was NEUTRAL to both parties (nobody seems to remember this) Team floyd agreed to 14 days (2 weeks) and for whatever reason team pac said no and walked. Go read the rest of my posts. I clarified it for you and the other poster. We all know what happened. They negotiated. Right? They couldn't agree on which cutoff date .... but whatever Floyd says and whenever Floyd changes his mind, which is often, it's always cool for all his Floyd fans ..... Most of Manny and Floyd fans agreed in a poll here that the two should agree on 14 days cutoff just to get the fight on .... but once Floyd changed his mind, so did Floyd fans ..... Why? They don't care about getting the fight on anymore? Sorry, but if Floyd says "Manny YOUR NEXT!" then he keeps on back-pedaling with roadblocks after roadblocks then that for me is not a fighter that is really interested in the fight.

From Day 1 Manny accepted more than "commission rules". Floyd and Manny initially just didn't agree on the cut-off dates. Then when Manny went even further than that and accepted with no cut-off dates, Floyd added new roadblocks. Unfortunately, some of you Floyd fans have a bad memory of what happened. That is why your logic is totally flawed! How you can call a guy that agreed to going beyond the commision rules from Day 1 and completely agree to Floyd's made up rules a hypocrite, is just plain crazy but some Floyd fans logic is to "protect my hero at all costs". Even most Manny fans were all in agreement at the beginning for Manny to accept the 14 day cutoff to just get the fight on .... but then when Floyd put roadblocks, that cut-off was off the table for not just Floyd but his fans too ..... talk about being hypocritical! That poll speaks for itself on who the hypocrites are. Speaking of hypocrites, how is Floyd doing with that CW in his next fight? The bold is a lie and you know it. If your gonna use words like memory, make sure yours is intact homie. Floyd wanted random all the way up til the fight from day 1, Manny wanted 28-30 days. He got caught lying when on the hatton/pac 24/7 it showed pac testing 20 something days (i believe 21) before the fight so then team pac said 21. Floyd said no. They went into mediation with a judge who was NEUTRAL to both parties (nobody seems to remember this) Team floyd agreed to 14 days (2 weeks) and for whatever reason team pac said no and walked.

Zip it, lame. There was only 2 rounds of negotiations. 09 and 10, manny refused the demands during both now piss off Works both ways bud .... Floyd didn't accept Manny's cutoff dates and Manny didn't accept Floyd's dates. Then when Manny accepted, Floyd went on vacations, fought other opponents without trying to negotiate with Manny, wanted ALL PPV money and now he wants Manny part of Floyd promotions or no fight ..... anyone would be laughing if they were told "Floyd really really wants to fight Manny ..... I'm serious ...... why are you laughing! :rofl:

Gobble gobble gobble , so you step over the crucial fact that in the very first place Manny wanting a ridicules cut of date , and then step over the fact that Floyd tried to compromise which you conveniently spun to Floyd demanding a cut of date ...... Go away kid your full of crap , Manny is and was a WW fake and its easy to prove , stay in denial if you like with the evidence that's in front of your face you must be a bit slow on the uptake , you will face reality one day . :pat: I know it's incredibly hard for you to understand but it was a negotiation bud. You are OK with whatever Floyd states but if Manny says the same exact thing as Floyd then it's a bad thing. Similarly, if Manny does something then it's bad and you go on a crusade against him but as soon as Floyd does the same (eg. CWs) then you are OK with it. Poor Reloaded, you lost your CW crusade so now you are going back in time and bringing back the PED issues ..... :rofl: Manny accepted but Floyd put other roadblocks.

it's apples and chicken. pacman agreed to unlimited urine testing, 3 blood tests which included one after signing and one immediately after the fight. which was far and above the current commission rules. and even better than current vada. pederson and berto got caught based on urine samples which were taken about three months before their respective fights. mayweather never went beyond 14 days cut off in all of his so-called random testing crap. he got 19 days cut off in the mosley fight, he got 18 in the ortiz and only 2 blood tests. there were barely any detail in the cotto and guerrero fight. and mayweather still said, "no it's not enough," adding to the fact that floyd is a roider himself. that's why he's a chicken. there's no comparison. so stop this nonsense. people aren't that stupid. :bigeyes: Floydiots are always on the lookout for gotcha moments as exemplified by this thread and others. Sad to say that they won't find any. Hehe... They can't accept that their hero is an unusual guy. There's nothing normal about him. How many so-called stringent testing procedures currently being conducted, including Mayweather's, match what Manny agreed to? VADA catches cheaters by urine samples. They probably don't even take blood tests. USADA does it for showmanship purposes only. What are the testing specifics in the Bradley/Marquez fight? One blood test. Who knows? Nobody cares.

How many more of these crap floydiot bumsniffer threads are you going to make? Why dont you just go and cry in a corner or something?:nonono: talk about obsessed

When I say he demanded 14 days it's because he demanded that over what Manny wanted. the point: but you were OK Floyd's 14 day cut-off ...... then when Manny said OK to 14 then 7 days cut-off you changed it to "cut-off dates are crazy" Just like you did with CWs ..... bad when Manny requests them but now they are OK since Floyd requested them .... lol! Gobble gobble gobble , so you step over the crucial fact that in the very first place Manny wanting a ridicules cut of date , and then step over the fact that Floyd tried to compromise which you conveniently spun to Floyd demanding a cut of date ...... Go away kid your full of crap , Manny is and was a WW fake and its easy to prove , stay in denial if you like with the evidence that's in front of your face you must be a bit slow on the uptake , you will face reality one day .

Another delusional double talk , Floyd didn't demand 14 days , he compromised to try and make the fight . Games up kid , we all know ! When I say he demanded 14 days it's because he demanded that over what Manny wanted. the point: but you were OK Floyd's 14 day cut-off ...... then when Manny said OK to 14 then 7 days cut-off you changed it to "cut-off dates are crazy" Just like you did with CWs ..... bad when Manny requests them but now they are OK since Floyd requested them .... lol!

The facts is what is kicking your butt all over the forum , don't you get it people are on to Manny now , hindsight is 20/20 vision , now all the information is out and the timeline is as clear as day , its obvious Manny ducked that fight at the time , then after milking his hype train to the fullest or until it ran out of CWs and then guys started beating him , the struggles of all Mannys other fights were back and we just had a tough action fighter that we always had , Now he is fighting B grade losers , demanding PED tests , accusing others of PEDS with no proof and now wants to agree to a Floyd fight as the last big pay off .. Manny was a fake , good fighter but a fake WW . Nice try but there have been plenty of polls here that has had Floyd ducking at several stages of his career. If Manny is a ducker then why did he accept Floyd's request of testing and why did Floyd continue with his roadblocks? If you really want the fight, you would not be placing all those roadblocks.

Like I said, for some Floyd fans, 14 days cut-offs are good only when Floyd requests that cut-off date ....else it's a bad thing! You guys are too funny! There was nothing wrong with that or any cut-off dates as that is how they were negotiating but the best is no cut-off dates 365 days a year. Another delusional double talk , Floyd didn't demand 14 days , he compromised to try and make the fight . Games up kid , we all know !

What the heck you talking about. Floyd never wanted cutt off. The only reason there were talks about cutt offs is because of Manny's sudden fear of needles. Floyd was just being sepathetic to Manny menstrual cycle and having to give blood and was offering cutt off to make the fight. Floyd could had said no cutt offs period but really wanted the fight. Manny said just not on the day of so Floyd budge to 14 days and Manny walked after Manny's last penalty bluff was called.:rofl: 14days is not on the day of the fight so why wasn't 14 days not good enough?! Like I said, for some Floyd fans, 14 days cut-offs are good only when Floyd requests that cut-off date ....else it's a bad thing! You guys are too funny! There was nothing wrong with that or any cut-off dates as that is how they were negotiating but the best is no cut-off dates 365 days a year.

Your sounding like a sour graping turd hiding behind a formality. The fact that Manny is even thinking about testing and not just testing equally but just having Marquez testing alone has to one of the most cry baby, arrogent and disgraceful sportsmenship. You are a joke if you actually believe what you wrote/

You guys are like a washing machine ....wash, rinse, repeat. Unfortunately, you don't want to realize what the actual facts were. You need to discuss testing during negotiations BEFORE you sign the contract. After you sign, it's just talk and that is what you are discussing .... just talk! The facts is what is kicking your butt all over the forum , don't you get it people are on to Manny now , hindsight is 20/20 vision , now all the information is out and the timeline is as clear as day , its obvious Manny ducked that fight at the time , then after milking his hype train to the fullest or until it ran out of CWs and then guys started beating him , the struggles of all Mannys other fights were back and we just had a tough action fighter that we always had , Now he is fighting B grade losers , demanding PED tests , accusing others of PEDS with no proof and now wants to agree to a Floyd fight as the last big pay off .. Manny was a fake , good fighter but a fake WW .

BOTH Floyd and Manny agreed to cut-off dates but they couldn't agree to which ones so the fight didn't happen. So I guess you felt the same about Floyd when he was saying "with cut-off dates". You make it sound like "Floyd testing rules" is the best way but it's far from being the way to go. It should be done all year round. Still not full proof (ask Lance Armstrong) but that is the way to go. What the heck you talking about. Floyd never wanted cutt off. The only reason there were talks about cutt offs is because of Manny's sudden fear of needles. Floyd was just being sepathetic to Manny menstrual cycle and having to give blood and was offering cutt off to make the fight. Floyd could had said no cutt offs period but really wanted the fight. Manny said just not on the day of so Floyd budge to 14 days and Manny walked after Manny's last penalty bluff was called.:rofl: 14days is not on the day of the fight so why wasn't 14 days not good enough?!

You guys are like a washing machine ....wash, rinse, repeat. Unfortunately, you don't want to realize what the actual facts were. You need to discuss testing during negotiations BEFORE you sign the contract. After you sign, it's just talk and that is what you are discussing .... just talk! Your sounding like a sour graping turd hiding behind a formality. The fact that Manny is even thinking about testing and not just testing equally but just having Marquez testing alone has to one of the most cry baby, arrogent and disgraceful sportsmenship.

Its always brought up because it was the very reason the fight never happened when it was 50/50 and both fighters peaking , the only real negotiation and Manny refused the fight on the back of PED testing that he now demands of B grade losers . Don't come with but he only wanted cut of dates because that came after saying Yes initially then that changed to NO then it changed to cut of dates > Cut of dates is as good as saying NO TESTING , how the fck you have random testing and a pre known cut of dates , fck me you Manny fans are gullible . BOTH Floyd and Manny agreed to cut-off dates but they couldn't agree to which ones so the fight didn't happen. So I guess you felt the same about Floyd when he was saying "with cut-off dates". You make it sound like "Floyd testing rules" is the best way but it's far from being the way to go. It should be done all year round. Still not full proof (ask Lance Armstrong) but that is the way to go.

What's even more hilarious is that team Pac wanted Marquez to go through testing alone but as soon as Marquez said as long as Pacquie test also he(Marquez) would do it. Pac's handlers immediately dropped their testing request:rofl: You guys are like a washing machine ....wash, rinse, repeat. Unfortunately, you don't want to realize what the actual facts were. You need to discuss testing during negotiations BEFORE you sign the contract. After you sign, it's just talk and that is what you are discussing .... just talk!