Why when Floyd demanded testing he was a coward?

wax-manny KTFO hatton floyd sr says he's on PED's. JMM KTFO Manny, fringe Manny fans say JMM is on PED's. JMM has memo, manny has Ariza. The defense can't be ariza isn't as bad as memo. Thats as crazy as ben johnsonn saying well I wasn't on that steroid I was on this one. there is an equal standard of proof being applied. you can't justify one and not the other. manny KO hatton = hatton KO'd by floyd previously & wobbled by collazo. hatton not known to be granite-chinned anyway. jmm KO pac = jmm RARELY hurt pac previously. suddenly puts him to sleep. bigger punchers couldnt replicate that. although i credit that KO to planning & pac's recklessness. memo = on record to be tied with PEDs. ariza = speculation, im not an ariza historian but i never read SOLID proof linking him to supplying. equal standard of proof is a stretch, IMO. but i see your angle.

simple. team mayweather's accusations were baseless. pac's performances or physique wasnt unnatural or superhuman. all this PED nonsense arose after cotto & hatton.... pac's physique changed gradually as he worked his way up. and he always had great conditioning. many people claimed cotto was "damaged goods", so what was so surprising that pac whooped him? wasnt hatton "ruined by floyd" as well?? so what was so impressive or demonstrative of PED use? ariza shakes? c'mon. those accusations were CLEARLY a tactic to derail pac's career and deflect the possible fight. jmm, on the other hand, hires a KNOWN drug peddler. then shows up looking like the mexican hulk.... eats pac's punches like skittles.... and puts pac to sleep..... jmm's physique alone made alot of people scratch their heads. who bulks up like that at this age and stage of their career? imagine if b-hop showed up looking like jeff lacy for his next fight? wouldnt you be a little curious????? either way, pac STILL fought jmm (had no choice). even with all those suspect "signs" in the jmm camp. for the record, i would never accuse without proof. so as far as jmm goes, ive seen my friends bulk up naturally doing crossfit... so if memo focused on strength & explosiveness, it makes complete sense jmm's physique would change. but im not gonna lie, initially, i was like whoa.... wax-manny KTFO hatton floyd sr says he's on PED's. JMM KTFO Manny, fringe Manny fans say JMM is on PED's. JMM has memo, manny has Ariza. The defense can't be ariza isn't as bad as memo. Thats as crazy as ben johnsonn saying well I wasn't on that steroid I was on this one. there is an equal standard of proof being applied. you can't justify one and not the other.

Who was Floyd at that time to make demands on Pac? Pac was regarded as the best P4P fighter in the world. He had awards left and right and was not only recognized in America but had fans in all corners of the earth. Hollywood was in to Manny Pacquiao. He was earning American millions and was a billionaire in his peso Philippines. Why the fck would someone like Pac kneel before Zod, I mean Floyd? Why would someone who was as proud as Pac of his accomplishments give way to Floyd and his family of thugs who ruined his hard earned reputation just because he was an Asian boxer doing great in America? Never mind that no one in boxing history has asked what Floyd was asking Pac to do. No one! Pac compromising to Floyd's capricious demands was enough proof he really wanted to fight. Whereas Floyd came out with changing and increasing demands over time. Go fuc yourself, you dimwit.

Who was Floyd at that time to make demands on Pac? Pac was regarded as the best P4P fighter in the world. He had awards left and right and was not only recognized in America but had fans in all corners of the earth. Hollywood was in to Manny Pacquiao. He was earning American millions and was a billionaire in his peso Philippines. Why the fck would someone like Pac kneel before Zod, I mean Floyd? Why would someone who was as proud as Pac of his accomplishments give way to Floyd and his family of thugs who ruined his hard earned reputation just because he was an Asian boxer doing great in America? Never mind that no one in boxing history has asked what Floyd was asking Pac to do. No one! Pac compromising to Floyd's capricious demands was enough proof he really wanted to fight. Whereas Floyd came out with changing and increasing demands over time. when you are the smaller draw you make concessions to fight the bigger star. when you don't it means you don't want to fight. JMM, tim, canelo, floyd, shane, hatton, holyfield (bigger star than manny) etc etc have all done this. Manny is no different. His FOTD, FOTY, sure HOF status or wins at 126 etc have no bearing on a business negotiation in 2009. He isn't special. He treats his opponents the same way floyd treats him. How can that possibly bother you?

Now the same fans who called him a coward are now accusing JMM of using steroids and demanding he be tested? what ever happened to "LET THE COMMISSION DO THEIR JOBS"??? I am completely lost,now commission testing isn't good enough? but drug testing is the reason Manny walked from the table with Floyd in 2010 and ya'll backed him up for it? simple. team mayweather's accusations were baseless. pac's performances or physique wasnt unnatural or superhuman. all this PED nonsense arose after cotto & hatton.... pac's physique changed gradually as he worked his way up. and he always had great conditioning. many people claimed cotto was "damaged goods", so what was so surprising that pac whooped him? wasnt hatton "ruined by floyd" as well?? so what was so impressive or demonstrative of PED use? ariza shakes? c'mon. those accusations were CLEARLY a tactic to derail pac's career and deflect the possible fight. jmm, on the other hand, hires a KNOWN drug peddler. then shows up looking like the mexican hulk.... eats pac's punches like skittles.... and puts pac to sleep..... jmm's physique alone made alot of people scratch their heads. who bulks up like that at this age and stage of their career? imagine if b-hop showed up looking like jeff lacy for his next fight? wouldnt you be a little curious????? either way, pac STILL fought jmm (had no choice). even with all those suspect "signs" in the jmm camp. for the record, i would never accuse without proof. so as far as jmm goes, ive seen my friends bulk up naturally doing crossfit... so if memo focused on strength & explosiveness, it makes complete sense jmm's physique would change. but im not gonna lie, initially, i was like whoa....

Who was Floyd at that time to make demands on Pac? Pac was regarded as the best P4P fighter in the world. He had awards left and right and was not only recognized in America but had fans in all corners of the earth. Hollywood was in to Manny Pacquiao. He was earning American millions and was a billionaire in his peso Philippines. Why the fck would someone like Pac kneel before Zod, I mean Floyd? Why would someone who was as proud as Pac of his accomplishments give way to Floyd and his family of thugs who ruined his hard earned reputation just because he was an Asian boxer doing great in America? Never mind that no one in boxing history has asked what Floyd was asking Pac to do. No one! Pac compromising to Floyd's capricious demands was enough proof he really wanted to fight. Whereas Floyd came out with changing and increasing demands over time.

So they agree to change the weight of the fight threedays before the fight and you who claims to be a real boxing fan will say this isn't considered missing weight. Just face it Floyd missed weight they agreeded to weight to a weight limit 10 weeks before the fight but since Floyd couldn't make the weight they changed the rules just three days before the fight so Floyd would't get punished by the commision. He still payed Marquez for missing weight, the originally agreeded upon weight, not no bull**** weight Floyd pull out his behind at the last minute. Simply put Floyd missed the contracted weight limit, he got a pass on it by the commision because he notified them, not even on time however, about not being able to make weight. cmon son ... he could have lost two pounds in three days, he didnt miss a thing

Now the same fans who called him a coward are now accusing JMM of using steroids and demanding he be tested? what ever happened to "LET THE COMMISSION DO THEIR JOBS"??? I am completely lost,now commission testing isn't good enough? but drug testing is the reason Manny walked from the table with Floyd in 2010 and ya'll backed him up for it? You type in such an uneducated manner.

Pac disagreed with Floyd's brand of testing initially, but he agreed eventually in the second negotiation, at which point Floyd was saying he's going a long vacation. Then terms changed and although testing was no longer an issue, Floyd kept saying it was. There's no reason on earth why the fight don't happen if you really want it. Disagreements happen in negotiations. The world don't end after the first negotiations. If it failed the first time, you can always have a second one, or a third and so on. Pacman never agreed to any testing and he said he was afraid of needles lol also telling the media you agreed and not signing the contract are two different things people including myself dont like floyd as a person but he agreed to all of pacs ridiculous demands he only had one and they turned it down the first time and the second time pac turned it down over 50 - 50 which was mayweathers second demand only two demands to multiple demands on pac mans behalf again im sure its not pac he fights who the match makers pick but they didnt pick floyd

Now the same fans who called him a coward are now accusing JMM of using steroids and demanding he be tested? what ever happened to "LET THE COMMISSION DO THEIR JOBS"??? I am completely lost,now commission testing isn't good enough? but drug testing is the reason Manny walked from the table with Floyd in 2010 and ya'll backed him up for it? Do you ever stop whining? Floyd dipped out. Get over it.

Floyd's duckage of Pacquiao is one of the most embarrassing ducks in the annals of boxing history. You can just imagine reading some highlights of it in a book. I could see a group of people in a conference room haggling in a contentious atmosphere. There was Arum, Weinstein the mediator and a PED expert all, including Hoya and Scaefer, trying to convince Floyd that what Pacquiao proposed was good enough and it's okay to go ahead with the fight. Just imagine how scared Floyd was.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlYH_HqbVhw

Floyd isn't a coward, he just didn't want to get knocked out by Manny. It's perfectly fine for one to care about their health.. So Marquez and Morales can not only avoid Getting knocked out, but clearly outbox Manny, but Floyd who is a far better boxer, w/much better defense is worried about Pac KO'ng him? Got it!:fing02: Also Manny agreeded to the drug testing with a 14 day cut off period the first go round. Floyd is the one who walked and said no fight but turned around and fought Mosley with a 19 day caught period. No wonder your siding w/Pac. It's because you're wrong on all the facts(or lying). Pac DID NOT accept 14 days on the first go around. THAT IS WHY THE FIGHT DIDN'T HAPPEN! He waited until Floyd said the offer was off the table, THEN HE ACCEPTED! If you'd like, I can post the link where Arum says "WE ARE WALKING AWAY". And there was NO cutoff period in the Mosley fight. That is the idea of "random", you don't know when it will end, up to the fight. It's called a D-E-T-E-R-R-E-N-T. Incredible!!! It's like teaching kindergarten.

So they agree to change the weight of the fight threedays before the fight and you who claims to be a real boxing fan will say this isn't considered missing weight. Just face it Floyd missed weight they agreeded to weight to a weight limit 10 weeks before the fight but since Floyd couldn't make the weight they changed the rules just three days before the fight so Floyd would't get punished by the commision. He still payed Marquez for missing weight, the originally agreeded upon weight, not no bull**** weight Floyd pull out his behind at the last minute. Simply put Floyd missed the contracted weight limit, he got a pass on it by the commision because he notified them, not even on time however, about not being able to make weight. You are showing your fanboydom. Tell me how does it matters if it was 10 weeks, 3 days, 15 mins before weigh in? THE CONTRACT WAS CHANGED AND AGREED TO! Cotto didn't want to put his belt on the line at a catchweight, but was pressured to. Does the fact the he didn't want to, to that it was at a catchweight change the fact that he lost it? NO! Really? You've never heard of RENEGOTIATING A CONTRACT? Let me give you an example that HOPEFULLY, you will understand. Google plans a merger with a smaller company. All the contracts are signed, but later, the company realized it can't meet the all of terms. They offer to pay a penalty to Google for not meeting the terms, to alter the terms and to continue with the deal. Google agrees and they both sign the RENEGOTIATION. After the new contracts are signed, is either party still held to the previous contract? Should the company be penalized for not meeting the original terms. My answer and I'm sure most of the rest of the worlds would be "NO". Tell me, what is the answer in Pac Fanboy world? By the way, Pac have been over the legal weight limits, IN TWO TITLE FIGHTS, so who was he to demand this in the first place?

Say what? According to whom that Manny is the B side of the fight because from where I stand neither man has a right to that claim. But if one did it would have been Manny since he was regarded as the best fighter in the world at the time, and selling millions on Pay Per View. Manny was the " best fighter in the world" only because of Floyds retirement. Floyd was the best fighter in the world when he fought ODH, but still the B side. Floyd was still the bigger draw. Also you call me a Manny fan but aren't you just as much as a Floyd fan. The funny thing is you don't even understand what's going on, we both have picked a side to agree with but you seem to believe since I chose opposite of you I'm not a "real boxing fan", whatever that means. I am a fan of Floyd skills an boxing. Not him as a man or icon or any of that jazz. There is a HUGE DIFFERENCE between us my friend. I am using facts to tell my story and to show the right AND wrong on both sides. You are using opinion, rumor, and siding with "your fighter" even when he contradicts himself, you still don't stand up and make excuses for him. If Floyd asks for tests, it's a duck. If Pac asks for test AFTER he has already made every excuse in the wold why he can't, all you hear is deflection and crickets. Manny looks like superman and hurts bigger fighters and he's not on anything, Floyd looks like the same Floyd from previous weights and does SOME OSDT, yet Floyd should be suspected, not Manny. Pac still wants 50/50 after he is clearly the lesser draw? Floyds ducking. Pac/Arum makes fighters sign w/ Top Rank to get a fight with him, it's reasonable. Floyd suggests the same, more roadblocks. What is a real boxing fight, I watch every show that comes on, I watch fights from the past during the 60's on up and I buy majority of ppv events. You don't seem to have much sense. A real boxing fan enjoys BOXING. He might have their favorite fighters, but the will not ignore logic and reality to protect that boxers reputation or image. That's a fanboy. The way that you are siding w/Pac on everything, while demo nixing Floyd makes me question what category you belong to.

Floyd isn't a coward, he just didn't want to get knocked out by Manny. It's perfectly fine for one to care about their health. Also Manny agreeded to the drug testing with a 14 day cut off period the first go round. Floyd is the one who walked and said no fight but turned around and fought Mosley with a 19 day caught period. There's nothing more to say. :biggthump

If your a "boxing fan" not a "Manny fan" you should know. It was common knowledge, although many distorted the facts and said Floyd came in overweight. http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4485941 So they agree to change the weight of the fight threedays before the fight and you who claims to be a real boxing fan will say this isn't considered missing weight. Just face it Floyd missed weight they agreeded to weight to a weight limit 10 weeks before the fight but since Floyd couldn't make the weight they changed the rules just three days before the fight so Floyd would't get punished by the commision. He still payed Marquez for missing weight, the originally agreeded upon weight, not no bull**** weight Floyd pull out his behind at the last minute. Simply put Floyd missed the contracted weight limit, he got a pass on it by the commision because he notified them, not even on time however, about not being able to make weight.

Well I be damned, how I'm I suppose to know if this is even a real quote frim a real publication. It' not like you couldn't have just typed this. It's not what you know, it's who you know that matters and I don't know who in the hell wrote this. Sources my friend, sources. If your a "boxing fan" not a "Manny fan" you should know. It was common knowledge, although many distorted the facts and said Floyd came in overweight. http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4485941

Oh really !!!! He sure did with Marquez! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_Mayweather_vs._Juan_Manuel_Marquez Ignore everything not bolded as it supersedes everything else and makes it nonsensical. During the official weigh in for their 144 lb bout, Marquez weighed in at 142 lbs and Mayweather weighed in at 146 lbs thereby incurring a financial penalty ($300,000 for each pound over 144 lbs) as he was 2 pounds over the catchweight. It was later revealed that the contract was changed a few days prior to the weigh in so that Mayweather would be allowed to weigh up to the welterweight limit of 147 lbs while avoiding paying an additional fine to the Nevada State Athletic Commission, in addition to the fine he agreed to pay to Marquez Reading is fundamental!:fing02: you are wrong. He paid because he was wrong. Where is the link for this claim? well at least you can admit youre slow! :AYWOoD: Speaking slow, serious question. Are you retarded? As it states above in the link that YOU PROVIDED, the contract was changed a few days before the fight, so that Floyd could weigh in up to 147. The stipulation in the contract was that anything above 144 would be 300k extra for Marquez. At the weigh in, Floyd was 146. 146-144= 2lbs or 600k extra for Marquez. If Floyd was overweight, he would've incurred fine from Nevada State Athletic Commission. He did not. It's so fun making you my B*TCH!:op:

"Drug testing bluff" I give up! The Messiah has already come for many some of us. His name is Emmanuel Pacquiao. You have TRUELY been brainwashed. If Pac makes 1000 excuses, then does the direct opposite later, it's understandable, and he's not a coward. You need serious counseling. Of course I believe he wanted the fight. Why would he negotiate, agree to 50/50 and compromise on a cutoff date? Look, unlike you. I am not here championing and making excuses for everything Floyd does. Of course he could've made the fight and I wish he would've. I still wish he would. He is an egomaniac who loves money and wants the world and especially Arum & Pac to know that HE is in charge. Fans be damed! I don't agree with that. But I also don't agree with is the stance that Pac has taken. He was wrong for not accepting the best offer to have the fight made period. He is wrong to have dragged his feet and made so many excuses for not having enhanced drug testing, only to now do the direct opposite and pretend he never made those excuses. He was also wrong to cling to 50/50 when clearly he was the B side and not as big a draw. They both have blame, but when we had the best chance at the most relevant time to see the fight, it was PAC'S FAULT! Be a man and call a spade a spade! Say what? According to whom that Manny is the B side of the fight because from where I stand neither man has a right to that claim. But if one did it would have been Manny since he was regarded as the best fighter in the world at the time, and selling millions on Pay Per View. Also you call me a Manny fan but aren't you just as much as a Floyd fan. The funny thing is you don't even understand what's going on, we both have picked a side to agree with but you seem to believe since I chose opposite of you I'm not a "real boxing fan", whatever that means. What is a real boxing fight, I watch every show that comes on, I watch fights from the past during the 60's on up and I buy majority of ppv events. You don't seem to have much sense.