Dirk Dickler exposed:
Plenty of those fights were mandatories and if you can name fighters that they could have fought instead, Id love to hear them.
Whether they were mandatories or not is kinda irrelevant
if you can name fighters that they could have fought instead, Id love to hear them. - Instead of Wach, Pianeta, Rahman, Charr, Briggs and Mormeck.
Hmm, let me think... How about Pulev? Helenius? Fury? Price? Haye? Chisora (for Wlad)? or how about Arreola? Glazkov? Mitchell? Banks? Wilder? Jennings? Scott? Any single one of those would have been far far better than the ones I mentioned.
they are scared because that's the holy grail and their careers are over if they get battered by the Klitschkos. - Speaking about Arreola.
I could have sworn that Arreola was just fighting for a mandatory position to avenge his defeat to Vitali, and came out and said he wanted a rematch:
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/9206883/cristobal-arreola-wants-another-shot-heavyweight-title
I'm sure Arreola would want to fight a Klitschko again but
But they couldn't have been made because they weren't viable!
Ehhh???
But they couldn't have been made because they weren't viable! Do you have comprehension difficulties? They are fantasy fights in your stupid head! Wlad vs Price = LOL how??
Did you know Vitali ducked Seth Mitchell? :lol1:
I don't think you are in a position to call me stupid mate. You are considered #1 troll on NSB.
You said: "which fights could have been made?" Then I list some names, and in your stupid head, they are not "viable" for fantasy reasons?
I started out by saying they didn't duck anyone, didn't I?
I'm really starting to see why people think you are the most retarded poster online.
They didn't have options, they were co promoting his fights. Big difference.
You asked which better fights could have been made and I replied. But yet again, you move the goal post so now it's which was a viable option and not which we're better fights.
Anyways. I'm out.
But they couldn't have been made because they weren't viable! Do you have comprehension difficulties? They are fantasy fights in your stupid head! Wlad vs Price = LOL how??
Because Haye called the K2 contract, "a slave contract" because of the options on his future fights which is standard when you aren't the mandatory challenger. Yet he went and signed a contract with Sauerland who had 3 options on his future fights :lol1:
Don't remember saying whether it would be a better or worse fight. I'm saying it wasn't a viable option. It's basically like saying Liverpool could go sign Messi because he'd be the best option but it's not fukin viable is it? You're just throwing out random names like Scott and David LOL Price saying they are better fights without realising that they wouldn't step in the ring with the Klitschkos. It's only cherry picking if these fights were available and Wlad opted to fight Pianeta instead. THAT's cherry picking. Learn the damn definition already.
They didn't have options, they were co promoting his fights. Big difference.
You asked which better fights could have been made and I replied. But yet again, you move the goal post so now it's which was a viable option and not which we're better fights.
Anyways. I'm out.
I assume you mean the next 2 fights? Well that was a promotional agreement that worked well for all partners. Haye got a tv deal with ARD and Sauerland co promoted his fights. I don't see what that has to do with options on Valuev? But please enlighten me.
Because Haye called the K2 contract, "a slave contract" because of the options on his future fights which is standard when you aren't the mandatory challenger. Yet he went and signed a contract with Sauerland who had 3 options on his future fights :lol1:
So explain this to me Dirk, what made Pianeta deserve a shot more than Malik Scott? Scott has better senior amateur and pro pedigree. He's more known, has a deal with a big American promoter and fights on terrestrial tv in the states. So you can always enlighten me too.
Now you're saying Scott would be a worse fight than Pianeta. What's the next going to be?
Don't remember saying whether it would be a better or worse fight. I'm saying it wasn't a viable option. It's basically like saying Liverpool could go sign Messi because he'd be the best option but it's not fukin viable is it? You're just throwing out random names like Scott and David LOL Price saying they are better fights without realising that they wouldn't step in the ring with the Klitschkos. It's only cherry picking if these fights were available and Wlad opted to fight Pianeta instead. THAT's cherry picking. Learn the damn definition already.
Then you're a big twat :lol1:
You can test me on literacy if you like. I'm challenging you. How many years did you go to school?
Long enough to earn two university degrees.
You might be right.
But I'm not small. And I'm not a twat - something I'm sure your illiterate mind doesn't even fathom the meaning of.
Then you're a big twat :lol1:
You can test me on literacy if you like. I'm challenging you. How many years did you go to school?
You spend too much time on boxingscene you little twat.
You might be right.
But I'm not small. And I'm not a twat - something I'm sure your illiterate mind doesn't even fathom the meaning of.
That article says they were still his copromoter in 2011. His next fight was Wlad.
I dunno, Sauerland doesn't have a great rep either. They probably never killed a guy, but they've done a lot worse than asking for options on their HW champ.
You're a smart guy, I don't think you're this naive. You must be very invested in Haye somehow
I'm pretty are there was a time scale for that contract, not a number of fights. Sure I mean, Sauerland have had a few shows where some of the opponents got robbed. Holyfield - Valuev, Murray - Sturm, Chisora - Helenius.
Sure they have. One option is fair. But three? That's ridiculous. And Haye isn't the only one who's complained about it before.
Why am I naive? And please take what I've written and not what Dirk is trying make out I said.
Sauerland didn't promote the Wlad fight. Haye conveniently fought Audley Harrison instead of the richest fight he could make.
I'm sure we can both agree that Don King and Sauerland do not go about their business in similar fashion.
That article says they were still his copromoter in 2011. His next fight was Wlad.
I dunno, Sauerland doesn't have a great rep either. They probably never killed a guy, but they've done a lot worse than asking for options on their HW champ.
You're a smart guy, I don't think you're this naive. You must be very invested in Haye somehow
Pretty sure they were around for the Wlad fight. Looks like they were copromoting him well into 2011:
http://www.boxingscene.com/haye-povetkin-chagaev-triangle-explained-by-sauerland--36003
Funny how he never realized these benefits of working with Sauerland until he signed on to fight Sauerland promoted Valuev. A lot of fighters realize the benefits of working with Don King after downing his fighter.
Sauerland didn't promote the Wlad fight. Haye conveniently fought Audley Harrison instead of the richest fight he could make.
I'm sure we can both agree that Don King and Sauerland do not go about their business in similar fashion.
I think you should have taken off Martinez & added Canelo as much as I actually like Canelo. But I voted for Mayweather. The guy can probably beat everyone but he's just too scared to lose that 0. It's a shame really.
rofl... alvarez fought trout and now he's fighting mayweather.
I assume you mean the next 2 fights? Well that was a promotional agreement that worked well for all partners. Haye got a tv deal with ARD and Sauerland co promoted his fights. I don't see what that has to do with options on Valuev? But please enlighten me.
Pretty sure they were around for the Wlad fight. Looks like they were copromoting him well into 2011:
http://www.boxingscene.com/haye-povetkin-chagaev-triangle-explained-by-sauerland--36003
Funny how he never realized these benefits of working with Sauerland until he signed on to fight Sauerland promoted Valuev. A lot of fighters realize the benefits of working with Don King after downing his fighter.